pitchfork is dumb (#34985859340293849494 in a series.)

*wears web site as a hat*

lol

"because that’s what you do, I guess."

Every reviewer should roast the band he's reviewing. People love those Comedy Central roasts.

I would pay to see that actually happen in some cases.

a pity song review given to a track from a great album that they'll never bother to review, except they fuck up and give Best New Track to a song that impacted radio 8 months ago:
http://pitchfork.com/reviews/tracks/17295-jazmine-sullivan-dumb-ft-meek-mill/

wow that's embarrassing

recall they did a similar thing with "chandelier", although that might've been more to coincide with the video

Well better late than completely ignoring something until the year end lists roll around, like with Taylor Swift.

eh, "Chandelier" was less than 2 months old, and hadn't yet peaked on the charts, when that ran. Jazmine Sullivan's follow-up to "Dumb" has been out longer than that.

there have been two follow-ups to "dumb" both of which are better! i can't work out the rationale - if you want to deign to review jazmine sullivan (slow hand clap, did they review her previous two albums?) why not just do "mascara" for a track or god forbid the actual album? never want to hear it claimed that p4k is important for or good at r&b coverage again

did they review her previous two albums?

nope

"Dumb" also one of the album's weaker tracks -- maybe the only weak track.

yeah i think it's ok as an album opener but was an unsuccessful single for a reason, feels almost like a perfunctory "people like Jazmine's angry breakup songs, that's her thing, right?" choice

aw, i love "dumb". but yeah "mascara" and "forever don't last" are definitely superior.

anyway, one of the ILX/PFork xover types who read this board should just review the damn thing, it's among the best albums of the new year.

P4K isn't any better or worse than any other mainstream pub at covering R&B imo

That being said, their bet-hedging with mainstream pop/R&B remains frustrating

Deej reviewed the Jazmine record: http://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/20175-reality-show/

lol he told me he was gonna after i posted in this thread XD XD XD

GREAT review deej

why wouldn't you BNM that shit tho

brilliant!

they didn't even review sremmlife lol

they didn't even review BNM sremmlife lol

idk good album but not quite up there with tapes n tapes and youth lagoon imho

Love the new youth lagon

Youth Lagoon live is life changing.

In that you will never listen to Youth Lagoon again

it's like chicken pox, it happens once and then you're inoculated from it ever happening again

They did review sremmlife wtf

Huh? did you guys think they weren't gonna review it? That's definitely still something in their wheelhouse

the jazmine sullivan album? they didn't review her first 2 albums

oh i was talking about sremmlife my bad

paragraph 2:
There are no new directions or tweaks to their approach.

paragraph 3:
Here and there some new flourishes pop up.

given the way this is blowing up the internets today, i'm surprised it hasn't shown up here yet:
http://pitchfork.com/thepitch/710-the-unbearable-whiteness-of-indie/

the way to solve the problem is to give Heems and MIA higher scores.

that was mentioned yesterday on the "indie" thread. I dunno where it's blowing up, but not surprised, it reads like grade A trolling

Partly blowing up due to Stuart Murdoch being a twat on Twitter about it. Depressing.

Stuart Murdoch's fictional world being one snugly enveloped in white privelege I would think is pretty obvious/one of the less arguable positions in the piece, he should just own up to it. Exclusive enclaves of white privelege exist, I don't see why it's wrong to document them or address them in a creative work. (tho I am unaware of and can't defend whatever Murdoch's said on Twitter fwiw)

looking at his twitter feed now = eh could be a lot worse. at least he doesn't lash out at the writer.

I can count on one hand the prominent performers in the independent scene that look like me

Pretty rich coming a paragraph after making fun of Vampire Weekend, whose Rostam Batmanglij probably looks as much like her as Natasha Khan, and who has repeatedly taken umbrage at being categorized as "white."

Anyway, yeah, pretty ill-devised, selectively trolly essay. Like saying the Magnetic Fields need more Africa in it or whatever.

does/should it matter that B&S are Scottish? I mean, when American artists depict an all/mostly white world I feel like they're maybe cherrypicking the American experience in a way that is open to these criticisms, but a place like Scotland, I dunno (although I know nothing about the B&S film beyond what's said in the article and don't know where it was filmed).

I googled her name after skimming the article and one of the first results was a reddit thread that I then clicked on

I never read reddit, I've maybe been on the site once or twice before

the forum name the thread was on was named punchablefaces

I found it pretty stomach turning that something so small and irrelevant as a pitchfork article in 2015, which, after skimming, I don't really care about or even agree with that much, generated this insane racist and misogynistic whirlwind

I suspect that was the intention, to some extent

prob was about baiting people, but I seriously doubt the intent was to get a "DEPORT ALL MUSLIMS AND SEND HER DEATH THREATS" kind of thing going

While Hanna has, historically, played with sarcasm and irony in her lyrics, her work has never been derided as a joke

I am deeply queasy about the personality cult that has sprung up around Kathleen Hanna over the past decade, but, holy shit, Kathleen and BK took so much shit in the 90s. They were pretty much constantly derided by a male-dominated punk scene. You can still meet male music fans/critics of a certain age who are quite vocal about what a joke they think "the whole riot grrrl thing" was.

assuming they've seen the internet before, idk what other reaction they would have realistically expected

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