The Worst of the Worst of the Worst: "Rude" vs. "All About That Bass"

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i can, and often have, imagined jar-jar binks singing all about that bass

qualx, Wednesday, 21 January 2015 01:23 (nine years ago) link

djp why are you reading/watching interviews with these ppl

mookieproof, Wednesday, 21 January 2015 01:31 (nine years ago) link

With Magic!, the interview was how I found out the song existed; it was passed around as a "look at this tool and his terrible music" lol and then suddenly every radio station was playing "Rude" and that joke wasn't funny anymore(TM)

With Meghan Trainor, she showed up on The Today Show and I was surprised by how nonplussed and excited she was. Then she sang "Your Lips Are Moving" and I thought "this isn't that good but at least it sounds like it's making an attempt to not be terrible"

Let me help you out Charlie XCX fan (DJP), Wednesday, 21 January 2015 01:35 (nine years ago) link

omg that gif

Let me help you out Charlie XCX fan (DJP), Wednesday, 21 January 2015 01:35 (nine years ago) link

it was truly the highlight of the whatever music awards that was

da croupier, Wednesday, 21 January 2015 01:36 (nine years ago) link

also that they were still playing their one hit rather than one of the two yet-to-chart follow-ups was encouraging

da croupier, Wednesday, 21 January 2015 01:37 (nine years ago) link

though meghan seems primed become the millenials' helen reddy or something

da croupier, Wednesday, 21 January 2015 01:38 (nine years ago) link

My reaction to AATB is "ugh, of course this is a huge hit." My reaction to "Rude" is "what the fuck is this, how is this a hit?"

JoeStork, Wednesday, 21 January 2015 01:39 (nine years ago) link

on Y-100's morning show last week the deejay goes, "Alright! That was Meghan Trainor with 'All About That Bass'!" His colleague goes, "Uh, no, that was 'Lips Are Movin'." He goes, "Shut up." Uncomfortable silence, followed by hysterical laughter.

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 21 January 2015 01:40 (nine years ago) link

Magic! is this years Fun.

walid foster dulles (man alive), Wednesday, 21 January 2015 01:40 (nine years ago) link

let's not forget that twenty years ago "baby i love your way" by big mountain was a hit, twenty years before that "i shot the sheriff"

da croupier, Wednesday, 21 January 2015 01:41 (nine years ago) link

clapton's "i shot the sherrif" i mean

da croupier, Wednesday, 21 January 2015 01:41 (nine years ago) link

not sure which band should be more offended xp

qualx, Wednesday, 21 January 2015 01:42 (nine years ago) link

america has a soft spot for doofy white reggae, i mean we just gave sting a kennedy center honor

da croupier, Wednesday, 21 January 2015 01:42 (nine years ago) link

all fun needs is an exclamation point

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 21 January 2015 01:43 (nine years ago) link

oh c'mon fun's had multiple hits including a duet with a superstar, they're several tiers above a one-off novelty band and at least at the level of a wang chung.

da croupier, Wednesday, 21 January 2015 01:45 (nine years ago) link

If anyone's on the fence, please don't overlook Rude's guitar solo, almost certainly the worst guitar solo to ever hit pop radio.

http://youtu.be/PIh2xe4jnpk?t=2m27s

― american tail/american pie (how's life), Tuesday, January 20, 2015 3:51 AM (16 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

this sounds like one of those "shreds" videos!!

een, Wednesday, 21 January 2015 01:56 (nine years ago) link

The "Rude" guitar solo makes the one in "Escape (The Pina Colada Song)" sound positively muscular.

That shit right there is precedented. (cryptosicko), Wednesday, 21 January 2015 01:59 (nine years ago) link

tbh i would listen to entire album of rude songs if it meant never having to hear trainor's baby squirrel betty boop joke voice again

qualx, Wednesday, 21 January 2015 02:16 (nine years ago) link

no you wouldn't

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 21 January 2015 02:18 (nine years ago) link

tbf i'm pretty sure rude is the only song they ever recorded

whoops mixed up the band name and song name no one cares

qualx, Wednesday, 21 January 2015 02:21 (nine years ago) link

my reaction to "rude" (first heard on the jukebox as some cancon thing) was "this is gonna get blurred lines-ed to death but it's ultimately kind of innocuously pleasant." my reaction to "all about that bass" was a mixture of "the kids still like hairspray, don't they" and "this sounds like a C-list radio disney track that will be half-heartedly promoted even by radio disney."

voted aatb but I really don't hate either of them as much as I feel I am supposed to (that one comes closer though)

katherine, Wednesday, 21 January 2015 02:23 (nine years ago) link

"the kids still like hairspray, don't they"

ha this is OTM

my version of this reaction was "I guess people really miss Duffy?"

Let me help you out Charlie XCX fan (DJP), Wednesday, 21 January 2015 02:34 (nine years ago) link

i repeat: "rude" is actually good, and was one of the more interesting songs on american radio in the past year (low bar, granted)

soyrev, Wednesday, 21 January 2015 02:52 (nine years ago) link

i repeat: lemonade was a popular drink and it still is

Hammer Smashed Bagels, Wednesday, 21 January 2015 02:54 (nine years ago) link

Rude has all of the ingredients of something I should hate, and yet I can't hate it. It's really not that bad.

walid foster dulles (man alive), Wednesday, 21 January 2015 03:57 (nine years ago) link

I thought "Bass" was kinda cute on first blush, but it didn't hold up well. I got very tired of it. I never liked "Rude" at all. For me addlepated girl-group pastiche trumps frat-bro cod reggae.

something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 21 January 2015 05:45 (nine years ago) link

Rude's lyrics win this for me. The whole childlike whining through the chorus about this girl, then ending with "I wanna marry you anyway" = induce teeth grating

dutch_justice, Wednesday, 21 January 2015 05:58 (nine years ago) link

I have a different take on this:

"Rude" is more pseudo-ska fodder for Sublime-worshipping dude bros who are generally horrible people, or at best have poor priorities, make bad decisions and need to grow up. This song gives them something else to listen to while taking a bong hit.

"All About That Bass" opened up more discourse into topics such as self esteem from body image, fat shaming and our cultures very complicated and damn near hypocritical opposing forces of being one of the fattest nations ever while having a media that promotes unrealistic body shapes as the norm and billions are spent dealing with weight. Despite sounding like a throwaway pop song, in the age of social media and slacktivism, it had legs beyond that.

The choice is pretty clear to me.

Loud guitars shit all over "Bette Davis Eyes" (NYCNative), Wednesday, 21 January 2015 06:47 (nine years ago) link

Hammer where did you say that originally? i need to know if i can trust your future posts

NYCNative i think the poll is about musical content, not sociological extrapolations re: probable audience

soyrev, Wednesday, 21 January 2015 06:56 (nine years ago) link

sublime worshipping dude bros are all in their 70s now and every single #1 hit for the past 5 years has spawned mountains of thinkpieces, fuck a "discourse" lol

qualx, Wednesday, 21 January 2015 06:57 (nine years ago) link

NYCNative i think the poll is about musical content, not sociological extrapolations re: probable audience

My criteria for what I like and dislike about music is my own and I don't believe you or anyone can tell me otherwise.

Loud guitars shit all over "Bette Davis Eyes" (NYCNative), Wednesday, 21 January 2015 07:06 (nine years ago) link

qualx seems unaware that there's a whole new generation of dude bros out there with their tribal tatoos. I had the misfortune of sitting in a pizza place attached to a bar filled with them just a week ago - lots of vapid conversation heard over a jukebox playing Drowning Pool, Bob Marley and yes, Sublime.

Loud guitars shit all over "Bette Davis Eyes" (NYCNative), Wednesday, 21 January 2015 07:08 (nine years ago) link

Can we talk about how unworthy Rude is of its AMAZING Zedd remix? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E9Q4-wcPDBQ

Richaod, Wednesday, 21 January 2015 07:11 (nine years ago) link

qualx seems unaware that there's a whole new generation of dude bros out there with their tribal tatoos. I had the misfortune of sitting in a pizza place attached to a bar filled with them just a week ago - lots of vapid conversation heard over a jukebox playing Drowning Pool, Bob Marley and yes, Sublime.

― Loud guitars shit all over "Bette Davis Eyes" (NYCNative), Wednesday, January 21, 2015 7:08 AM (28 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

people who listen to drowning pool, bob marley and yes, sublime, do not really factor into the success of six-week #1 hits

a song is not going to stay at #1 for six weeks because of any demographic smaller than "young people"

qualx, Wednesday, 21 January 2015 07:46 (nine years ago) link

Sorry, but those people exist and are a demographic. I don't like them either but I am cognizant of the fact that just because I don't like a group of people doesn't mean they don't exist. I also feel they exist in far greater numbers than you suspect.

Loud guitars shit all over "Bette Davis Eyes" (NYCNative), Wednesday, 21 January 2015 08:00 (nine years ago) link

And just because I said the song appeals to them doesn't mean it appeals ONLY to them. Sheesh.

Loud guitars shit all over "Bette Davis Eyes" (NYCNative), Wednesday, 21 January 2015 08:01 (nine years ago) link

this was not a thread i was expecting to get sheeshed in

qualx, Wednesday, 21 January 2015 09:44 (nine years ago) link

why you gotta be so rude

Doctor Casino, Wednesday, 21 January 2015 13:37 (nine years ago) link

the thing is, i would love it if a GOOD song touched on any of those issues re: body image etc etc, it's just tjay aabtt does this in the hackiest and least thought out way possible, like someone posted the title to their facebook, waited two hours, and gathered the lyrics from comments and imageshares posted only by their immediate family. it's not insightful, it doesn't mobilize and it doesn't even have the excuse of being clever or inventive. they got to 'bass/treble' and stopped.

Doctor Casino, Wednesday, 21 January 2015 13:43 (nine years ago) link

why you gotta be so rude

see in addition to being not very bad at all the song has incredible conversational utility

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Wednesday, 21 January 2015 13:45 (nine years ago) link

'rude' is at least funny for how surprised and let down the dude is at the failure of his halfassed, badly planned attempt to win over the jackass dad, 'awww Maaaaaaaaaaan! This bites!' ...particularly in the video where he apparently is trying this on an impulse at eleven am on a saturday, having had the idea at the spur of the moment on the way to the mall... what went wrong???!

Doctor Casino, Wednesday, 21 January 2015 13:47 (nine years ago) link

the thing is, i would love it if a GOOD song touched on any of those issues re: body image etc etc, it's just tjay aabtt does this in the hackiest and least thought out way possible, like someone posted the title to their facebook, waited two hours, and gathered the lyrics from comments and imageshares posted only by their immediate family. it's not insightful, it doesn't mobilize and it doesn't even have the excuse of being clever or inventive. they got to 'bass/treble' and stopped.

― Doctor Casino, Wednesday, January 21, 2015 5:43 AM (1 hour ago)

otm, but you forgot the part where it completely fucking rules anyway

no Mmmmbob (contenderizer), Wednesday, 21 January 2015 14:48 (nine years ago) link

It certainly rules a "worst of the worst of the worst" poll, that's true.

Vulvacura (Eric H.), Wednesday, 21 January 2015 14:51 (nine years ago) link

victory!

no Mmmmbob (contenderizer), Wednesday, 21 January 2015 14:59 (nine years ago) link

Rude's lyrics win this for me. The whole childlike whining through the chorus about this girl, then ending with "I wanna marry you anyway" = induce teeth grating

― dutch_justice, Wednesday, January 21, 2015 12:58 AM (9 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

He's not whining about the girl, he's whining about her rude dad, maaan.

walid foster dulles (man alive), Wednesday, 21 January 2015 15:05 (nine years ago) link

i've never been more sympathetic towards the antagonist in a song than I am with the dad in "Rude."

That shit right there is precedented. (cryptosicko), Wednesday, 21 January 2015 15:07 (nine years ago) link

I have a different take on this:

"Rude" is more pseudo-ska fodder for Sublime-worshipping dude bros who are generally horrible people, or at best have poor priorities, make bad decisions and need to grow up. This song gives them something else to listen to while taking a bong hit.

"All About That Bass" opened up more discourse into topics such as self esteem from body image, fat shaming and our cultures very complicated and damn near hypocritical opposing forces of being one of the fattest nations ever while having a media that promotes unrealistic body shapes as the norm and billions are spent dealing with weight. Despite sounding like a throwaway pop song, in the age of social media and slacktivism, it had legs beyond that.

The choice is pretty clear to me.

― Loud guitars shit all over "Bette Davis Eyes" (NYCNative), Wednesday, January 21, 2015 1:47 AM (8 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Honestly if this is going to be the criteria for evaluating pop songs going forward, it's going to be a very boring future.

walid foster dulles (man alive), Wednesday, 21 January 2015 15:07 (nine years ago) link

'rude' is at least funny for how surprised and let down the dude is at the failure of his halfassed, badly planned attempt to win over the jackass dad, 'awww Maaaaaaaaaaan! This bites!' ...particularly in the video where he apparently is trying this on an impulse at eleven am on a saturday, having had the idea at the spur of the moment on the way to the mall... what went wrong???!

― Doctor Casino, Wednesday, January 21, 2015 8:47 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

IMO this is exactly the charm of the song.

walid foster dulles (man alive), Wednesday, 21 January 2015 15:08 (nine years ago) link


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