wait i don't really know what "nicety" means. i just mean all those nice and pleasant-sounding artists who are ultimately quite safe and a little boring?
― marcos, Wednesday, 14 January 2015 19:35 (nine years ago) link
ha!
― AKA Thermo Thinwall (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, 14 January 2015 19:36 (nine years ago) link
yes. he is a little different.
xxxp its mostly in his lyrics, which are often hysterical and/or vicious
― i'm tellin you it was kenard (slothroprhymes), Wednesday, 14 January 2015 19:36 (nine years ago) link
he has a stage presence/persona that is way more outwardly engaging and fun/funny
― mizzell, Wednesday, 14 January 2015 19:37 (nine years ago) link
xxxpost to scott: his late-2000s stuff as J. Tillman is mostly super hushed, sad, folky stuff, and it is absolutely beautiful, particularly 2009's "Year in the Kingdom" ... but it is quite different from FJM.
this song/video is representative/wonderful: http://youtu.be/OVPet3TWwHw
― alpine static, Wednesday, 14 January 2015 19:37 (nine years ago) link
his discussion on wtf about his previous work as j. tillman is pretty interesting and funny.
― mizzell, Wednesday, 14 January 2015 19:38 (nine years ago) link
admittedly there are a million people doing what he was doign as J. Tillman, and FJM is a good break from that
― alpine static, Wednesday, 14 January 2015 19:39 (nine years ago) link
right. he basically was a fleet foxes/ bon iver type before (based on the 1 or 2 songs I could stand before turning it off) and FJM is really nothing like that.
― mizzell, Wednesday, 14 January 2015 19:40 (nine years ago) link
lyrics for Ideal Husband:
JulianHe's gonna take my files
Every woman that I've slept withEvery friendship I've neglectedDidn't call when grandma diedI spend my money getting drunk and highI've done things unprotectedProceeded to drive home wastedBought things to win over siblingsI've said awful things, such awful things
And nowNow it's outAnd nowNow it's out
Telling people jokes to shut them upResenting people that I loveSleep in 'til two then doin' shitJust stay in bed and later lie 'bout itObsessing over greying hairKnowing just what people wanna hearBinging on unearned attentionI've said awful things, such awful things
I came by at seven in the morningSeven in the morning, seven in the morningI came by at seven in the morningI said, "Baby, I'm finally succumbing"Said something dumb like "I'm tired of runningTired of running, tired of running"Let's put a baby in the ovenWouldn't I make the ideal husband?
― AKA Thermo Thinwall (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, 14 January 2015 19:41 (nine years ago) link
his lyrics can be outwardly funny in a slap stick kind of way – but they can also be really funny/engaging in a way I’ve never heard before (like they lyrics I just posted).
― AKA Thermo Thinwall (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, 14 January 2015 19:43 (nine years ago) link
xp and that's honestly at the like, softer end of his sardonic side. "the night josh tillman came to our apartment" from the new album is on a "like a rolling stone" level of bitterness
― i'm tellin you it was kenard (slothroprhymes), Wednesday, 14 January 2015 19:44 (nine years ago) link
that letterman song did remind me of john grant. which isn't a bad thing really. i don't really know fleet foxes at all but wiki says he was just drumming for them anyway.
― scott seward, Wednesday, 14 January 2015 19:54 (nine years ago) link
and then he drops a song that is just plain beautiful like I Went To The Store One Day.
― AKA Thermo Thinwall (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, 14 January 2015 19:56 (nine years ago) link
i also just heard abt this guybut the letterman performance was great, i like the theatrical aspect of it
― Wu-Tang Clannad (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 14 January 2015 19:57 (nine years ago) link
listening to his 2012 album
sometimes he reminds me of Nilsson a bit, he's more explicitly bitter and stuff but the same sort of sense of dread and angst bubbling up in these little perfect studio pop productions
― Wu-Tang Clannad (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 14 January 2015 20:13 (nine years ago) link
i dig the novelty of an indie guy trying to Say Something but the lyrics to "bored in the usa" get so corny
― da croupier, Wednesday, 14 January 2015 20:43 (nine years ago) link
some of the other pull-quotes here are more promising though
He had to expect that people would have felt that way, hence the laugh track. This part always makes me chuckle: Oh good the stranger’s body’s still here/ Our arrangement hasn’t changed
― Indexed, Wednesday, 14 January 2015 21:05 (nine years ago) link
corny != funny unless you are xposting some distance to the slapstick humor post
― $80 is absurd and very ridiculous! (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 14 January 2015 21:45 (nine years ago) link
I like some songs on Fear Fun. But I think that croup is correct in calling out 'Bored In the USA'. It doesn't work as well for me as similar stuff from Nilsson (or Newman), such as 'Gotta Get Up'->'Driving Along' or 'Love Story (You and Me)'.
― $80 is absurd and very ridiculous! (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 14 January 2015 22:23 (nine years ago) link
Nilsson could be sincere and moving. FJM does not try for that.
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 14 January 2015 22:25 (nine years ago) link
you know, I was going to say the same thing. but then I thought 'Oh wait, he has a song titled 'o i long to feel your arms around me''. and well...
― $80 is absurd and very ridiculous! (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 14 January 2015 22:28 (nine years ago) link
so I am still looking for something sincere because I think that is something I'm missing compared to Nilsson or Grant.
― $80 is absurd and very ridiculous! (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 14 January 2015 22:29 (nine years ago) link
yeah i shouldn't have compared him to a great like nilsson
there's a kind of 70s pro studio vibe to it though, grant kinda has that too
― Wu-Tang Clannad (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 14 January 2015 22:37 (nine years ago) link
The schism btwn his records as J. Tillman and FJM is really interesting to me, as the Tillman records are more traditionally "sincere"-sounding, yet he is much more engaging in this new persona. (Which he claims to be a more honest representation of where he's at these days, anyway.)
― Simon H., Wednesday, 14 January 2015 23:21 (nine years ago) link
Nilsson doesn't seem like the right point of comparison to me. If we're talking 70s pro-studio gloss + darkly cynical/sarcastic lyrics about sex and drugs and assholes then the obvious reference point is everyone's favorite Coachella 2015 performers
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 15 January 2015 17:22 (nine years ago) link
hmmm. FJM songs have so much reverb, though, and it doesn't really sound 70s pro-studio gloss imo. And I don't think you'll see too many drummers drumming along to these FJM songs on youtube anytime ever.
― $80 is absurd and very ridiculous! (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, 15 January 2015 17:35 (nine years ago) link
Ideal Husband is great. That second verse is so brutal. I do find his lyrics moving actually.
― Minaj moron (Re-Make/Re-Model), Thursday, 15 January 2015 17:43 (nine years ago) link
guys guys you're going waaaaaay too far back for your reference points
consider bright eyes and later bad seeds
― da croupier, Thursday, 15 January 2015 17:44 (nine years ago) link
ok that was ign'nt since i've only heard bored in the usa
― da croupier, Thursday, 15 January 2015 17:47 (nine years ago) link
haha very ignorant just after flipping through "bored" again and some other stuff. i think his caustic literalness just reminds me of some of their stuff, but the sound is very different
i'll accept he sounds further back, how about a meaner rupert holmes
― da croupier, Thursday, 15 January 2015 17:51 (nine years ago) link
He does have some of Cave's black sense of humour but I hear Nilsson all over this. I think it's the arrangements and the general air of 70s LA barfly debauchery. He wears a string section like an old suit that needs dry cleaning.
― Minaj moron (Re-Make/Re-Model), Thursday, 15 January 2015 17:52 (nine years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hTRpLhyVHqI
Life's a constant disappointmentWhen you live on celluloidBut my movie expectations are a dream I can't avoidWaiting for a girl to say the thingsThat I heard in a film last nightBut she doesn't want to play the roleAnd she can't pick her cues up rightWill I dream? Yes, I might
― da croupier, Thursday, 15 January 2015 17:53 (nine years ago) link
his hooks would have to be hookier and his attitude more whimsical (if dark) for me to bring up nilsson above 80 other 70s singer-songwriters
― da croupier, Thursday, 15 January 2015 17:55 (nine years ago) link
As a genre I like "charismatic self-loathing asshole who wrecks everything he touches but has a great arranger".
― Minaj moron (Re-Make/Re-Model), Thursday, 15 January 2015 18:08 (nine years ago) link
lol that prob deserves its own thread
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 15 January 2015 18:09 (nine years ago) link
marcus maronus
― $80 is absurd and very ridiculous! (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, 15 January 2015 18:10 (nine years ago) link
As a 70s singer-songwriter archetype it beats "soulful nice guy who wants you to forgive his fuck-ups because it's so hard making it in this crazy world"
― Minaj moron (Re-Make/Re-Model), Thursday, 15 January 2015 18:11 (nine years ago) link
you guys are hilarious.
― AKA Thermo Thinwall (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Thursday, 15 January 2015 18:34 (nine years ago) link
can't wait for the divorce album
― Simon H., Thursday, 15 January 2015 18:37 (nine years ago) link
people put out too many records...these days...
10 albums! (plus EPs and singles...)
― scott seward, Thursday, 15 January 2015 18:54 (nine years ago) link
but how much does he resemble jackson browne?
― $80 is absurd and very ridiculous! (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, 15 January 2015 19:46 (nine years ago) link
God sends his spaceships to America the beautifulThey land at six o'clock and there we are, the dutifulEating from TV traysTuned into Happy DaysWaiting for World War III while Jesus slavesTo the mating calls of lawyers in love
― da croupier, Thursday, 15 January 2015 19:47 (nine years ago) link
when oswald shot kennedy he was insane and still we watch the reruns again and again...
― scott seward, Thursday, 15 January 2015 19:57 (nine years ago) link
― $80 is absurd and very ridiculous! (Sufjan Grafton),
You should prob check out Blake Mills' "don't tell all your friends about me" if you're looking for a jackson browne version of this.
― Heez, Thursday, 15 January 2015 19:57 (nine years ago) link
not that you were
― Heez, Thursday, 15 January 2015 19:58 (nine years ago) link
i thought that was so profound in whatever year that was...
― scott seward, Thursday, 15 January 2015 19:58 (nine years ago) link
― Heez, Thursday, January 15, 2015 11:57 AM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
I like this. I need to find this thread.
― $80 is absurd and very ridiculous! (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, 15 January 2015 20:05 (nine years ago) link
actually, I saw Blake Mills with Fiona Apple in 2014 and then forgot to check this album out
― $80 is absurd and very ridiculous! (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, 15 January 2015 20:08 (nine years ago) link
His delivery is a BIG part of the appeal. Win Butler does not come close. Win Butler's not in the same universe.
― Hey Bob (Scik Mouthy), Monday, 30 October 2017 15:55 (six years ago) link
yeah they do totally different things imo
― Οὖτις, Monday, 30 October 2017 15:59 (six years ago) link
no doubt, I happen to find FJM's delivery more intolerable - listening to the song now and if ever there was a voice too clever for it's own good...
but I shouldn't comment so much on stuff I don't like
― niels, Monday, 30 October 2017 18:28 (six years ago) link
"total entertainment forever" is an amazing song
― Treeship, Monday, 30 October 2017 14:16 (four hours ago) Permalink
http://i66.tinypic.com/2ezpg04.jpg
― sleepingbag, Monday, 30 October 2017 18:33 (six years ago) link
I am simple, and easily amused.
Here's Father John Misty (Josh Tillman) during a chapel service, from my 1999 Montrose Christian School yearbook. pic.twitter.com/vsWsoVafnv— C.D. Carter's good account (ironically) (@CDCarter13) November 17, 2017
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 27 November 2017 22:02 (six years ago) link
idgi
― Οὖτις, Monday, 27 November 2017 22:03 (six years ago) link
he's been p upfront that he was raised in a weird Xtian fundie family
It's the wording of the caption that gets me.
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 27 November 2017 22:11 (six years ago) link
"I'm recording sweet solos for the Lord." "How does--" "Shh."
he was just jammin for the Lamb
― Οὖτις, Monday, 27 November 2017 22:12 (six years ago) link
Sort of related, but was just thinking I'd totally be into a FJM Christmas album.
― Never Learn To Mike Love (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 28 November 2017 00:18 (six years ago) link
Elton John's been mentioned a few times itt, "Ballad of the Dying Man" came on shuffle recently and before I skipped it I was struck by how reminiscent it was of a Captain Fantastic track
― niels, Monday, 11 December 2017 07:20 (six years ago) link
New Single:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n38R1JTEAPo
Apparently the new album is a Concept Album about being Fucked Up In A Hotel (or, in other words, the most FJM thing FJM has ever FJM-d)
― ...some of y'all too woke to function (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 24 February 2018 04:26 (six years ago) link
I was interested in his thing at first but the longer he keeps up with this schtick the grosser it seems and it’s retroactively ruining my enjoyment for his earlier material.
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Saturday, 24 February 2018 07:13 (six years ago) link
"total entertainment forever" is an amazing song― Treeship, Monday, 30 October 2017 14:16 (three months ago) Permalink
were you high bro
― trife's rich padgett (rip van wanko), Saturday, 24 February 2018 13:39 (six years ago) link
"it’s retroactively ruining my enjoyment for his earlier material."
Yes, I'm experiencing this.
― djh, Sunday, 25 February 2018 19:15 (six years ago) link
more like father dumb shitty
― It's not delivery, it's Adorno! (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 26 February 2018 01:13 (six years ago) link
― trife's rich padgett (rip van wanko), Saturday, February 24, 2018 8:39 AM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
I wasn’t but I am sort of mystified at my positive first reaction to it now.
― treeship 2, Monday, 26 February 2018 01:19 (six years ago) link
he's not doubled down, but quadrupled down on the meta-josh-fjm schtick. tiresome.
― in twelve parts (lamonti), Tuesday, 27 February 2018 07:51 (six years ago) link
One of the 2 new songs; Just Dumb Enough To Try is fantastic IMO.
'"Josh Tillman has said the new album is “the real I Love You, Honeybear but without the cynicism”'.
http://www.brooklynvegan.com/files/2018/04/fjm.jpg
― piscesx, Wednesday, 18 April 2018 19:20 (six years ago) link
new album is great. Definitely feels like a "smaller" record than "Pure Comedy" even though there's still a lot of big-sounding orchestration and slow piano balladry. Lot of great, funny lines, that's for sure.
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 5 June 2018 17:54 (five years ago) link
Jason Isbell's here as wellAnd he seemed a little worried about you
They're co-headlining this summer!?!? Maybe they'll duet that song?
― a large tuna called “Justice” (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 12 February 2019 17:38 (five years ago) link
man I really like God's Favorite Customer.
― brimstead, Monday, 18 March 2019 05:17 (five years ago) link
He's Back...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ES2WW4JJ_84
― Precious, Grace, Hill & Beard LTD. (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 5 January 2022 20:51 (two years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WdkzXL-KO5w
― Precious, Grace, Hill & Beard LTD. (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 5 January 2022 20:52 (two years ago) link
Two hour long Barbican show from earlier tonight. Many new bangers debuted. He legit sounds like Manhattan Transfer on a couple. Not a bad thing!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TIPp53FTYpU
― piscesx, Thursday, 7 April 2022 23:40 (two years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o93hYhytAmI
― reggie (qualmsley), Friday, 11 November 2022 22:19 (one year ago) link
the album from this year is really great. Stunning live show too.
― lets hear some blues on those synths (brimstead), Friday, 11 November 2022 22:29 (one year ago) link
This is pretty damn great:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oGk0QUXXj-4
― Gerald McBoing-Boing, Wednesday, 24 January 2024 16:25 (three months ago) link