funky house sceptics, let me draw your attention to this

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Whoops that's probably "Devil in a Blue Dress"

tsrobodo, Friday, 9 January 2015 23:22 (nine years ago) link

what was nasty's beef with roska about again?

Benny B, Friday, 9 January 2015 23:46 (nine years ago) link

Well Marcus was probably playing "I'm Fly" earlier but the video was mid-2010.

I think the roundtable is interesting in that it goes beyond "bad corny MC tunes killed funky" and unpacks what that means. The issue wasn't "Head Shoulders Knees & Toes" or "Are You Gonna Bang Doe" per se - few if any of the key DJs even played those tunes - so much as how they:

1. created a sense of easy mainstream crossover which - when it wasn't really fulfilled - made funky seem like a commercial failure in a way that limited people's capacity to sell their work as "funky"; and

2. pushed away the older audience who started identifying with "house" again.

Tim F, Saturday, 10 January 2015 00:44 (nine years ago) link

Yeah those points were put across really well and I'm probably being too facile. I guess what it boils down to is that I really don't like "I'm Fly".

tsrobodo, Saturday, 10 January 2015 01:22 (nine years ago) link

"Head Shoulders Knees & Toes" is still the absolute shit tho. Every genre gotta have its ringtone rap.

The Reverend, Saturday, 10 January 2015 02:36 (nine years ago) link

RIP my hard drive from the late 00s I had all this shit on ;_;

The Reverend, Saturday, 10 January 2015 02:37 (nine years ago) link

two weeks pass...

two things from me:

first, a youtube playlist of 500 UK Funky songs I made

http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLhv5FL0vpzUmZVNeDwOv3p0x6iBvPhU9t

...and a mix to go with it

http://soundcloud.com/benny-brassic/uk-funky-oldskool-session-2015-benny-brassic

1. Casanova (Fuzzy Logik remix) - Monique Lawrence
2. Lost in your house - Miss Fire
3. Addicted - Peremapay & Dee ft. Cleo Sol
4. Track 2 - Wiley
5. House Girls 7 (No war inside) - Mad One
6. Holograph - Roska
7. Friend of mine - Major Note$
8. Dejavoodoo (Geeneus remix) - Beezy
9. Touch my (Mr Majika mix) - Mos Wanted Mega ft. Janee
10. Get up - Jook 10
11. Get off the wall (Delio D Cruz remix) - Kcat
12. I want it all (Ed Case UK Funky mix) - Trak D
13. Nitro - Lil Silva
14. Learn your ABC - Maddison
15. Report to the dancefloor - Rapid
16. Stompa - Seany B
17. Motherboard - Champion
18. Cooking - Enrique Benitez
19. Bongo Jam instrumental - Crazy Cousinz
20. Creeper - Unknown dub
21. Hurricane riddim - Funkystepz
22. Smile - Funky Twinz ft. Angel J
23. Unfinished business - Aphrodisiax
24. People keep dancing - Maddison ft. Murdz 86
25. Get a hit - Scottie D
26. Signed and sealed - Courtney Dennie
27. Preacher's daughter - Mr Mathz

Benny B, Saturday, 24 January 2015 17:36 (nine years ago) link

!!!

The Reverend, Saturday, 24 January 2015 19:44 (nine years ago) link

I've been trying to rebuild my UK funky selection cause my hard drive from that era died without backup and it's some of my favorite music ever. This will be super helpful!

The Reverend, Saturday, 24 January 2015 19:45 (nine years ago) link

glad to be of use! it took quite a while to put together, theres still plenty of great tunes i wanted to include that aren't on youtube, but its as comprehensive a list as you you're likely to find i reckon.

btw anyone know who made that creeper bootleg thats on the mix?

Benny B, Saturday, 24 January 2015 21:31 (nine years ago) link

Pretty sure it's Maxwell D & Bean Funky Creeper.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cFzQheuI1EE

It's one of the only ones I remember anyway.

Mix looks ace.

jimitheexploder, Saturday, 24 January 2015 21:43 (nine years ago) link

thats it! thanks its been bugging me for ages. never would have guessed!

Benny B, Saturday, 24 January 2015 22:30 (nine years ago) link

Mix looks excellent Benny, will check shortly.

Tim F, Saturday, 24 January 2015 22:35 (nine years ago) link

lol i am loving this imaginary uk funky revival tbh... all the other aggro uk urban music gets nostalgia and hugs round the campfire but mention fucking soca tribal bongo jams and it's goon armshouse within minutes

r|t|c, Sunday, 25 January 2015 12:55 (nine years ago) link

I will never understand Makeda's taste in funky tunes, it always seemed so random esp. when it would be combined with these boilerplate "state of the nation" pronouncements about funky as a scene which would make you expect more rote opinions, but no, she always followed her own oddball muse.

"The Funky Anthem" @ number 3???

Tim F, Sunday, 25 January 2015 13:03 (nine years ago) link

ha I like how after all of Geeneus' aggro, Marcus Nasty jumps in there being completely reasonable

The Reverend, Sunday, 25 January 2015 18:35 (nine years ago) link

v interested to see how the uk makes out with complex or complex makes out in the uk or ... whatever

deej loaf (D-40), Monday, 26 January 2015 01:00 (nine years ago) link

Does anyone have a non-garbage quality mp3 of the Aidonia version of "Inflation"?

aybaybayfan (The Reverend), Saturday, 31 January 2015 23:33 (nine years ago) link

Yeah I've got one rev - I'll stick it up later.

Prompted to revive this thread again by listening to the DJ OneDrop 'Kingston Flavour' mix and suddenly realising it's one of my favourite mixes ever, kinda the ur-Azonto mix in places.

Matt DC, Saturday, 7 February 2015 19:08 (nine years ago) link

It appears I've only got the Aidonia track in 192 which may be all that exists in for that matter, I assume that's too shonky for your purposes?

Matt DC, Sunday, 8 February 2015 11:04 (nine years ago) link

The one I could find is only in 128 so that would be an improvement.

aybaybayfan (The Reverend), Sunday, 8 February 2015 21:38 (nine years ago) link

two weeks pass...

Prompted to revive this thread again by listening to the DJ OneDrop 'Kingston Flavour' mix and suddenly realising it's one of my favourite mixes ever, kinda the ur-Azonto mix in places.

Does anyone have this in better than 64kbps mp3? Have been looking for the past 3 weeks, but haven't been able to do better than that (which is really rubbish).

toby, Saturday, 28 February 2015 08:47 (nine years ago) link

sorry can't help u, just bumping this thread to keep it next to the future brown one

r|t|c, Saturday, 28 February 2015 10:24 (nine years ago) link

sounds better than 64 kbps - https://www.mixcloud.com/mashupcrew/what-you-call-it-uk-funky-3-kingstonflavour/

just sayin, Saturday, 28 February 2015 10:49 (nine years ago) link

?

just sayin, Saturday, 28 February 2015 10:49 (nine years ago) link

here's the onedrop mix and the aidonia.

dbs, Saturday, 28 February 2015 11:24 (nine years ago) link

and here's a bassboy banger that i missed at the time and randomly found a few days ago while looking to upgrade some tunes:

bassboy ft pheleba - only you

dbs, Saturday, 28 February 2015 11:32 (nine years ago) link

thanks!

raih dednelb (The Reverend), Sunday, 1 March 2015 02:15 (nine years ago) link

Awesome - thanks so much for this!

toby, Sunday, 1 March 2015 09:36 (nine years ago) link

np

dbs, Sunday, 1 March 2015 12:11 (nine years ago) link

three months pass...

not even sure what funky is in 2015 but it should all be like that imo ^

transparent play for gifs (Tracer Hand), Monday, 15 June 2015 17:29 (eight years ago) link

nine months pass...

http://www.factmag.com/2016/04/05/drake-one-dance-uk-funky-crazy-cousinz-sample/

This is a catastrophic moment in the history of music.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 5 April 2016 12:08 (eight years ago) link

drake - not a funky house sceptic

just sayin, Tuesday, 5 April 2016 21:31 (eight years ago) link

more a funky house septic

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 5 April 2016 21:46 (eight years ago) link

come on j0rd be real u know u ride for this

r|t|c, Tuesday, 5 April 2016 23:37 (eight years ago) link

lol

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Wednesday, 6 April 2016 00:02 (eight years ago) link

does r|t|c?

i cant

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Wednesday, 6 April 2016 00:02 (eight years ago) link

milquetoast the only 2 foods we know for sure j0rd has eaten amirite lol

r|t|c, Wednesday, 6 April 2016 00:09 (eight years ago) link

nah good read on d40's part though, tbrr i do semi-seriously feel like funky in its essence has been proven to be an ineffable mystery known or remembered by like maybe ten ppl in the world so i'm actually kind of intrigued by the ways it will get burped up even if it is to be by this canadian dickwad who clearly deserves assassination. perhaps not even but especially given he is a fresh-eyed (bc avaricious) foreign element - from what i can see this news has been well received by the uk with what seems to me a telling tinge of relief/release

do i like it?... it's a vibe idk i'm not dismissing. i am generally more wary than ever before of holding onto the past in cancerous ways. young ppl are not me and me ppl are dead or as good as so pick the bones out of that

honestly i have previously toyed with suggesting an actual funky revival is real and in the fleeting offing (see disclosure thread), or rather a kind of more afro-tribal-positive proto-bruk beat subconscious moodboard pool at least, but... it's like ppl are drawing a blank at it, like the constructive materials are put in place but the je ne sais quoi is missing and they know it. a full mandate would be like the funkysouls messageboard version. all of which quite fitting bc funky in its original form already inherently carried a complicated bundle of nostalgic nuance (see several thousand vintage posts upthread lol jokes on u)

r|t|c, Wednesday, 6 April 2016 00:13 (eight years ago) link

i mean (and basically shadowboxing with lex now) it's very easy to bun this out straight away - 'do u mind' the deathless totem never to be traduced, least not by _____ , uk pathetically biddable uk ever - which is not to say too easy (actually it's correct) i'm just wondering aloud if defending until the end of days the number u happened to get sometime on life's roulette wheel is really how it's meant to be i guess

r|t|c, Wednesday, 6 April 2016 00:31 (eight years ago) link

So Drake made u confront your own mortality or

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Wednesday, 6 April 2016 01:30 (eight years ago) link

It may be more fruitful to criticize for reducing wizkid to a garnish

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Wednesday, 6 April 2016 01:32 (eight years ago) link

yeah i like this, i was just making a joke.

as far as drake songs go, i much prefer something like this than to all the chest-thumping hyper-masculine shit he's released in the last year-plus. "take care" is def one of his only songs that has really aged well imo. he's def doing a heavy ramriddlz thing here which is kinda wack objectively but i think he sounds good floating stupid sing-song come ons over warm, clubby beats like this. i've found myself of the position that his part on "work" is essential. as far as "one dance" goes i don't think the way they sample the original hook works at all, they should have just left it off.

& as david says i'm more offended by him giving wizkid a credited feature despite his voice being barely audible, it smacks of a grab for tastemaker cred w/o putting much skin in the game

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 6 April 2016 05:58 (eight years ago) link

there was some other song recently that did this same sorta thing & i'm forgetting it now, but the way drake uses wizkid on this ("garnish" is a pretty good comparison) reminds me of jamie xx only using popcaan as an accent (maybe literally lol) on "good times" & makes me wonder if that song will spawn some imitators

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 6 April 2016 06:00 (eight years ago) link

"take care" is def one of his only songs that has really aged well imo

i mean singles. same for "hold on we're going home" which i never get tired of.

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 6 April 2016 06:01 (eight years ago) link

based on the itunes sample of this i can listen to the "do you mind" sample just kinda arrives and does its thing with no particularly meaningful relationship to the rest of the song, on an execution level it's not as strong as "take care".

I don't think the legacy of uk funky particularly needs defending though - esp. given most people were always and forever wrong about it regardless.

Tim F, Wednesday, 6 April 2016 06:08 (eight years ago) link

Is the whole thing out there yet? The snippet definitely has more of a low key Naija thing going than a UK funky vibe per se but I can barely hear Wizkid at all.

Weird that Kyla, who no one has heard of, apparently gets a credited feature alongside him.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 6 April 2016 07:47 (eight years ago) link


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