2008 USP(G)ET pt. II: counting the days to 2012 primary thread 1

How DID I forget that. It's too early.

jesus fucking christ alive what a clusterfuck

McCain's Toughest Day Yet
from Marc Ambinder
The CW in Washington this morning is that McCain's suggestion for the grand, high-stakes summit meeting was the very thing that caused all of Washington to explode.

True, there was no "deal" -- House Republicans were always balking and Speaker Pelosi really wanted House Republicans to pair with House Democrats.

But McCain's presence in Washington gave voice to House Republicans, deliberately, if Minority Leader Boehner was somehow in cahoots with McCain. That's not likely -- the House caucus never trusted McCain and White House credibility among the GOP is ZERO. Indeed, maybe McCain feels privately duped by Boehner.

House Republicans did their best last night to bring McCain to their side, even though McCain did not intend to endorse any set of principles. Senate Republicans feel slightly emboldened now, in what became sort of a domino effect.

McCain needs to find a way to get House Republicans to buy into a deal. [ed: HAHHAHHHAHAHAHAAAAA]

If not -- and if there's a market sell-off -- McCain's going to have a tough, tough weekend. Never have the downside risks been so clear.

So, if Wachovia fails, do I have to pay off the rest of my car loan?

No, Sorry, Hugh [Kathryn Jean Lopez]

Hugh Hewitt wants the House guys to chill out. They are doing their job — trying to make the deal better. And I'll defend their right to do it.

09/26 10:15 AM

I haven't had the nerve to visit Hewitt's site this week.

guys the maverick is getting pushed around by his own party, i don't know what to think anymore

it seems to me like mccain's fucked himself on this one - if the republicans want to have any leverage in these negotiations, they have to throw mccain under a bus (sorry) right? dems can just wait out the clock until congressional republicans agree to the agreement, and make john look stoopid

they would have to spin this like crazy coming out of it to show mccain agreeing to a plan that is in any way different from the one that was agreed on yesterday

lmao @ fox's coverage of mccain being all "BRINKSMANSHIP AT THE HIGHEST LEVELS!"

that ISNT different that should say

i'm no political genius, but it seems to me the best thing obama could do would be to stay out of this whole deal as much as possible, or at least keep a low profile. i think pretty much all the average american is going to take away from the bailout etc. is "what a fucking mess" so the more the dems can associate it with mccain and not with obama, the better it will be

There's a reason he's sticking to being at Ole Miss tonight.

so is Obama on a contributor's porch this morning, sipping a mint julep?

Wouldn't you?

shrimp & grits at city grocery

OH GOD DAMMIT YOU JUST HAD TO SAY THAT, DIDN'T YOU

(Now I have to make S&G for lunch)

mmmm

reading the corner is surreal? try treasonous

Cause and Effect? [Mark Krikorian]

I really thought this was a joke, but it's not. WaMu's final press release, before it sank beneath the waves (h/t Sailer): WaMu Recognized as Top Diverse Employer—Again

Company ranks in top ten of Hispanic Business’ Diversity Elite and earns perfect score on the Human Rights Campaign’s Corporate Equality Index

SEATTLE, WA (September 24, 2008) – Washington Mutual, Inc. (NYSE:WM), one of the nation’s leading banks for consumers and small businesses, has once again been recognized as a top employer by Hispanic Business magazine and the Human Rights Campaign.

Hispanic Business magazine recently ranked WaMu sixth in its annual Diversity Elite list, which names the top 60 companies for Hispanics. The company was honored specifically for its efforts to recruit Hispanic employees, reach out to Hispanic consumers and support Hispanic communities and organizations.

The Human Rights Campaign, the largest national gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgender (GLBT) civil rights organization, also awarded WaMu its second consecutive 100 percent score in the organization’s 2009 Corporate Equality Index (CEI), which measures progress in attaining equal rights for GLBT employees and consumers. WaMu joins the ranks of 259 other major U.S. businesses that also received top marks in the annual survey. The CEI rated a total of 583 businesses on GLBT-related policies and practices, including non-discrimination policies and domestic partner benefits.

these people need to be destroyed. steve sailer, too, fuck that guy

aig, lehman, & bear stearns were all hotbeds of nonwhite faggotry as well, i'm told.

color me naive (or..ok) but i DON'T get it. explain. why would that Wamu statement be "a joke" to these people?

'cause they're shallow, bilious wretches who thrive on resentment, perhaps.

new rightwing sport is trying to pin mortgage meltdown on lending to minorities

i mean combed through that really quickly, and only just now re-read it. haha. they hired gay brown people. this is up for ridicule ?

but gays are usually good at flipping houses! dont these conservatives watch Bravo

they're ridiculing it because they're wingnut losers who think that if a bank is putting out diversity press releases then they must not be focused on saving themselves

I wish Thanksgiving was before the election so I could argue politics with my relatives. Finally, a year when I think I could beat some sense into them.

Lindsey Graham, on the Today Show (via TPM):

What's more important than anything that when we go to Mississippi tonight, both candidates can say that the Congress is working, back in business, that we have an outline or proposal that will protect the taxpayer and save the country from financial Pearl Harbor, as Warren Buffet called it. We are not there yet, but we will get there.

I thank John McCain for his excellent outlining work. I hope there is a PowerPoint presentation with stick figures.

i am still reeling over that 2nd couric/palin interview that I watched last night

I hope my three normal cousins, their spouses and I will just be grinning smugly come Thanksgiving. No words necessary.

McCain is so fucked.

Schaudenfreude is a wonderful thing.

I can't think of a reason why Ed Schultz would have sources in the McCain camp, but fwiw

catfish and fried okra at Ajax -- go populist.

R2000: O 48-43
Rasmussen: O 50-45
Diageo: O 49-42

^^^ OTM

xpost

Apparently Katie asked her, "what's the worst thing Dick Cheney did", and she answered "Shooting his friend with the gun".

verrrry interesting

Both McCain and his Democratic rival, Sen. Barack Obama, would leave the White House without comment, and the meeting was described as among the wildest in memory. A beleaguered President Bush had to struggle to maintain order and reassert himself. And when Democrats left to caucus in the Roosevelt Room, Paulson pursued them, begging that they not "blow up" the legislation.

The former Goldman Sachs CEO even went down on one knee as if genuflecting, to which Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Cal.) is said to have joked, "I didn’t know you were Catholic."

It was McCain who had urged Bush to call the White House meeting but Democrats made sure Obama had a prominent part. And much as they complained later of being blindsided, the whole event turned out to be something of an ambush on their part—aimed at McCain and House Republicans.

"Speaking professionally," said one Republican aide, "They did a very good job."

When Bush yielded early to Pelosi and Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D- Nev.) to speak, they yielded to Obama to speak for the assembled Democrats. And it was Obama who raised the subject of the conservative alternative and pressed Paulson on what he thought of the idea.

House Republicans felt trapped—squeezed by Treasury, House Democrats and a bipartisan coalition in the Senate. And while McCain spoke surprisingly little after asking for the meeting, he conceded that it appeared there were not the votes for the core Paulson plan without major changes.

Good God, can't DailyKos get someone who writes at least at the high school level?

DailyKos "gets" tens of thousands of people; anyone who wants to post there

i generally read on the linked material, not the poster's content

only

Debate is on

Quelle surprise

whew good thing McCain took a timeout to save the economy. Glad that's all taken care of.

What's weird to me is that McCain KNEW Obama would nix the idea of cancelling the debates - so he knew he'd have to come do it tonight - so he knew he'd end up in this bad-optics-for-him situation of ASKING Obama for a favor and Obama saying NO - and McCain unable to do anything about it except do what Obama says! It paints McCain as weak, and Obama in the decision-maker's shoes. Yet they knew it would happen that way. I don't see the upside.

Plus here's McCain with a deal NOT struck.. turning up for a "campaign event"!

http://www.nytimes.com/imagepages/2008/09/26/opinion/26suboped_ready.html

McCain is dumber than a bag of hammers

(sorry, I had to go there)

There's a line forming: my mom finally rang and said we're all jealous of Sarah Palin because she's so damned cute.