What happened to socially/politically concious rappers

sloth pretty surprised you've resisted this thread so far.

Death Grips

as far as troll behavior goes, creating a persona isn't exactly uncommon, but yeah, my ott theory - which was like 25 percent serious to begin with - is most certainly inaccurate

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many of us should spend some time tonight looking critically at ourselves in the mirror

evan i saw no percentage in engaging w/ any of this stuff bc even people who bless their hearts were trying to give serious answers were getting nothing but dickish behavior in return, but i felt i should clarify the joke

has no one made the 'he will be a zing-flinging jaded ilx regular by 2017' post yet? no?

Anyhoo, I'll play along through all this bullshit because I'm bored, just to get facts straight because you're just using your fucked up raccoonesque perception of reality, the following are cold hard facts:
These were Metacritic's top rap/hip hop artists from the 00s (as you might be aware they have these scores by summing different review scores from popular zines):

http://i.imgur.com/DBVlge3.png

And this is the list of best selling rap/hip hop albums in the USA since 00s:

http://i.imgur.com/E8zXOVd.png

He's already flinging that's for sure. xp

its a ott sock ster

No use Moka. It's common knowledge that raccoons have tunnel vision, making it common for them to cherry pick.

I'm sure you'll continue saying that they are previous generation artists or whatever but the truth is they are still the ones getting the best reviews and sales. I'm sure in your 15 year old world it seems like the only artists that matter to other people are Minaj and Drake but there's hope out there. Hang in there, buddy.

http://www.squirrelstore.com/files/744999/uploaded/79100pp.jpg

that's fucking cruel

― ..but is he a virtuoso? (Raccoon Tanuki), Thursday, January 8, 2015 8:08 AM (6 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

new theory: it's calum

where's my cane

the following are cold hard facts...

What about streaming, mixtapes and YouTube tho? Metacritic is OK, but I don't know if sales is that representative of the RT successful + popular criteria.

This guy went from 50 to 80(!!!) flagged posts in a matter of hours. You won't be seeing him for a while.

that shit on the Charlie Hebdo thread was p bad tbf

hip-hop is safe!

Looks like for YouTube Vevo, it would be Pitbull, Chris Brown, Nicki, Black Eyed Peas, Lil Wayne, 50 Cent, Kanye West, Drake, Nelly, Soulja Boy and Tyga, depending on what you label as rap/hip-hop.

http://vidstatsx.com/vevo-most-viewed

It takes quite a lot to get 51ed in this day and age but I have never seen anyone accumulate flags that quickly.

man am i glad i didn't read RTs thoughts on Hebdo

Getting some big data up in here. Fight ignorance with science.

Oh I haven't flagged him yet! Let me contribute.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploads15/cig%2Braccoon1256176039.jpg

They FP'in! Aw, made you post
You a slave to a thread made by ott's ghost

Too many people are trying to derail, ignore the point, trivialize, troll.

― ..but is he a virtuoso? (Raccoon Tanuki), Wednesday, January 7, 2015 7:10 PM

up early in the morning
dressed in black
don't ask why cuz I'm down in a suit & tie
they killed a raccooon that I went to school wit
i tell ya life ain't shit to fool wit

This is pointless.

I'm out.

― ..but is he a virtuoso? (Raccoon Tanuki), Wednesday, January 7, 2015 7:10 PM

But every now and then,
I wonder if FP was put up to keep Racoons out or to
Keep our ass in

Who's that trolling in my window
POW nobody now

it's sad he was a virtuoso

6 in the mornin' police at my door
fresh racoon paws squeak across the floor

thank fuck for that

my question was why.

1. rap became pop. pop music is rarely political, esp since I dunno, end of Vietnam War era.
2. it became passe, seen as corny to be overtly "conscious"/"political". this goes for just about every genre that once wore its heart on it sleeve.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-oLazoHUu0yc/Tpi6il5Z8OI/AAAAAAAAABs/tiaChtjXe2M/s1600/here_comes_a_new_challenger.png

I don't think it's wrong to note that rap is different now, just that all the ways and reasons for it cited by RT were basically wrong

http://i.imgur.com/PlAnnXF.jpg

See you soon, little racoon.

forks with the comic timing

"with the protest song "cash rules everything around me"

Rza actually quotes this to Paul Walker in the movie Brick Mansions and then says "You heard of that one?" Meta-hilarity!!

plus he was a dumb asshole

Multiple xps

def looking forward to tanook's analysis of cherif kouachi's rap skills tfs

― Ottbot jr (NickB), Thursday, 8 January 2015 11:51 (11 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Now there's a politically conscious rapper for you

rc tanuki is wrong and lame as hell but a rephrased version of this could have flown on ilm a bit more than a while ago, the days transition from earnest roots/outkast-type groups love to general engagement to even more casual interest in rap weird voice weird sound novelties. sooooo guess i can almost appreciate british REAL RAP kid in 2014 longing for the good old days when the dudes coming at him are from a mostly equally lame ilm crew that confines rap discussion to one thread.

pfft we fought a war so that British racoons couldn't vote in America come on now

So that's what Iraq II was about.

i was gonna start a hip hop retirement community thread actually just to talk about old shit

as someone that's expressed a lot of questionable or stupid opinions on ilm, i sympathize, too.

also your british rap nerd view of the real rap canon is wrong. i feel like most of the explicitly political or CONSCIOUS dudes on your list, the this is real political rap that made a difference story around them has been carefully explained and it's easy to, like, figure out. maybe you don't listen to enough music made recently or understand enough about the situations or circumstances or whatever it's made in and don't understand the communities lots of rap music comes from and is addressed to? and you probably don't understand what these artists meant, their message or their image, in contemporary terms and.... i dunno, being a naive likely racist british dude, you might not be willing to listen and understand deeply enough to what's going on and give it the benefit of serious listening and picking out new age youtube rappers with conscious methods is not going to help.

tanuki did you listen to the last cormega album?

i dont think there's anything wrong w/ limited rap discussion to a rolling thread, it saves me time from sorting through 100s of threads i dont care about to get the rap regulars in one place. like unless we started a board called 'i love rap' then that's the best way to do it

otherwise i agree with you, i dont think conscious rap has really aged nearly as badly as ppl are saying, if anything the recent discussions of the carceral system et al make conscious rap seem fairly well considered, ppl are letting a well-meaning defense of 'rap weird voice weird sound novelties' harden into its own kind of annoying orthodoxy position where its the only thing that 'matters'

werent we just talking on here recently about how j-live's 'satisfied' has actually aged pretty well even tho its pretty lolworthy how it's used in the wire s.1

anyway i'm using this as an excuse to post this mick jenkins song which i think is good:

https://soundcloud.com/mickjenkinsmusic/11-prod-by-nifdproductions

i think the original list shows an inability to understand rap lyrics + culture or whatever in general, and if you try to apply that limited understanding to a more complex world, a lot more diversity in voices and tones and styles and content, you're going to be fuckin lost.

why don't jada and styles make your list, rc?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qR-Rn-Pst2w

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0-cpL--0AQA

i dont think conscious rap has really aged nearly as badly as ppl are saying, if anything the recent discussions of the carceral system et al make conscious rap seem fairly well considered, ppl are letting a well-meaning defense of 'rap weird voice weird sound novelties' harden into its own kind of annoying orthodoxy position where its the only thing that 'matters'

hey wow i get to say deej otm