What happened to socially/politically concious rappers

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<3 charlie xcx

dyl, Thursday, 8 January 2015 19:36 (nine years ago) link

if we're counting the Coup, Can Ox & Dad Prez as successful group then why wouldn't Run the Jewels count?

ancient texts, things that can't be pre-dated (President Keyes), Thursday, 8 January 2015 19:49 (nine years ago) link

groups

ancient texts, things that can't be pre-dated (President Keyes), Thursday, 8 January 2015 19:49 (nine years ago) link

because a raccoon said so

Οὖτις, Thursday, 8 January 2015 19:51 (nine years ago) link

Despite some colorful details ("Handcuffed in back of a bus, 40 of us") Deck's verse on C.R.E.A.M. is more defeatist than political imo -- an older person teaches him the value of hard work ffs

I can just, like, YOLO with Uber (bernard snowy), Thursday, 8 January 2015 19:58 (nine years ago) link

"Fellow-traveler" hiphop, maybe

I can just, like, YOLO with Uber (bernard snowy), Thursday, 8 January 2015 20:00 (nine years ago) link

who did what now

― un chill goon (some dude), Wednesday, January 7, 2015 11:45 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Pitchfork's Chris Ott takes No Prisoners

The Complainte of Ray Tabano, Thursday, 8 January 2015 20:10 (nine years ago) link

lmao "dad prez"

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, 8 January 2015 20:13 (nine years ago) link

no way RT is Ott

ancient texts, things that can't be pre-dated (President Keyes), Thursday, 8 January 2015 20:13 (nine years ago) link

xxp my previously posited ott-sock theory was mostly for lols

i'm tellin you it was kenard (slothroprhymes), Thursday, 8 January 2015 20:15 (nine years ago) link

Why would ott pretend to be british

Οὖτις, Thursday, 8 January 2015 20:19 (nine years ago) link

there are dozens of rap forums out there that are just a bunch of guys like RT calling each other soft batch

ancient texts, things that can't be pre-dated (President Keyes), Thursday, 8 January 2015 20:19 (nine years ago) link

sloth pretty surprised you've resisted this thread so far.

Evan, Thursday, 8 January 2015 20:22 (nine years ago) link

Death Grips

Moka, Thursday, 8 January 2015 20:23 (nine years ago) link

as far as troll behavior goes, creating a persona isn't exactly uncommon, but yeah, my ott theory - which was like 25 percent serious to begin with - is most certainly inaccurate

i'm tellin you it was kenard (slothroprhymes), Thursday, 8 January 2015 20:23 (nine years ago) link

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many of us should spend some time tonight looking critically at ourselves in the mirror

Let me help you out Charlie XCX fan (DJP), Thursday, 8 January 2015 20:24 (nine years ago) link

evan i saw no percentage in engaging w/ any of this stuff bc even people who bless their hearts were trying to give serious answers were getting nothing but dickish behavior in return, but i felt i should clarify the joke

i'm tellin you it was kenard (slothroprhymes), Thursday, 8 January 2015 20:25 (nine years ago) link

has no one made the 'he will be a zing-flinging jaded ilx regular by 2017' post yet? no?

deej loaf (D-40), Thursday, 8 January 2015 20:29 (nine years ago) link

Anyhoo, I'll play along through all this bullshit because I'm bored, just to get facts straight because you're just using your fucked up raccoonesque perception of reality, the following are cold hard facts:
These were Metacritic's top rap/hip hop artists from the 00s (as you might be aware they have these scores by summing different review scores from popular zines):

http://i.imgur.com/DBVlge3.png

And this is the list of best selling rap/hip hop albums in the USA since 00s:

http://i.imgur.com/E8zXOVd.png

Moka, Thursday, 8 January 2015 20:30 (nine years ago) link

He's already flinging that's for sure. xp

Evan, Thursday, 8 January 2015 20:30 (nine years ago) link

its a ott sock ster

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, 8 January 2015 20:33 (nine years ago) link

No use Moka. It's common knowledge that raccoons have tunnel vision, making it common for them to cherry pick.

Evan, Thursday, 8 January 2015 20:33 (nine years ago) link

I'm sure you'll continue saying that they are previous generation artists or whatever but the truth is they are still the ones getting the best reviews and sales. I'm sure in your 15 year old world it seems like the only artists that matter to other people are Minaj and Drake but there's hope out there. Hang in there, buddy.

Moka, Thursday, 8 January 2015 20:34 (nine years ago) link

http://www.squirrelstore.com/files/744999/uploaded/79100pp.jpg

Evan, Thursday, 8 January 2015 20:36 (nine years ago) link

that's fucking cruel

― ..but is he a virtuoso? (Raccoon Tanuki), Thursday, January 8, 2015 8:08 AM (6 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

new theory: it's calum

goole, Thursday, 8 January 2015 20:39 (nine years ago) link

where's my cane

goole, Thursday, 8 January 2015 20:39 (nine years ago) link

the following are cold hard facts...

What about streaming, mixtapes and YouTube tho? Metacritic is OK, but I don't know if sales is that representative of the RT successful + popular criteria.

MikoMcha, Thursday, 8 January 2015 20:48 (nine years ago) link

This guy went from 50 to 80(!!!) flagged posts in a matter of hours. You won't be seeing him for a while.

Matt DC, Thursday, 8 January 2015 20:51 (nine years ago) link

that shit on the Charlie Hebdo thread was p bad tbf

Οὖτις, Thursday, 8 January 2015 20:53 (nine years ago) link

hip-hop is safe!

deej loaf (D-40), Thursday, 8 January 2015 20:54 (nine years ago) link

Looks like for YouTube Vevo, it would be Pitbull, Chris Brown, Nicki, Black Eyed Peas, Lil Wayne, 50 Cent, Kanye West, Drake, Nelly, Soulja Boy and Tyga, depending on what you label as rap/hip-hop.

http://vidstatsx.com/vevo-most-viewed

MikoMcha, Thursday, 8 January 2015 20:56 (nine years ago) link

It takes quite a lot to get 51ed in this day and age but I have never seen anyone accumulate flags that quickly.

Matt DC, Thursday, 8 January 2015 20:57 (nine years ago) link

man am i glad i didn't read RTs thoughts on Hebdo

shmup....smug....shmub....shmug.... (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 8 January 2015 20:57 (nine years ago) link

Getting some big data up in here. Fight ignorance with science.

MikoMcha, Thursday, 8 January 2015 20:58 (nine years ago) link

Oh I haven't flagged him yet! Let me contribute.

Moka, Thursday, 8 January 2015 20:58 (nine years ago) link

They FP'in! Aw, made you post
You a slave to a thread made by ott's ghost

$80 is absurd and very ridiculous! (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, 8 January 2015 21:14 (nine years ago) link

Too many people are trying to derail, ignore the point, trivialize, troll.

― ..but is he a virtuoso? (Raccoon Tanuki), Wednesday, January 7, 2015 7:10 PM

Moka, Thursday, 8 January 2015 21:16 (nine years ago) link

up early in the morning
dressed in black
don't ask why cuz I'm down in a suit & tie
they killed a raccooon that I went to school wit
i tell ya life ain't shit to fool wit

Wu-Tang Clannad (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 8 January 2015 21:16 (nine years ago) link

This is pointless.

I'm out.

― ..but is he a virtuoso? (Raccoon Tanuki), Wednesday, January 7, 2015 7:10 PM

Moka, Thursday, 8 January 2015 21:16 (nine years ago) link

But every now and then,
I wonder if FP was put up to keep Racoons out or to
Keep our ass in

Who's that trolling in my window
POW nobody now

ancient texts, things that can't be pre-dated (President Keyes), Thursday, 8 January 2015 21:24 (nine years ago) link

it's sad he was a virtuoso

contenderizer, Thursday, 8 January 2015 21:35 (nine years ago) link

6 in the mornin' police at my door
fresh racoon paws squeak across the floor

Οὖτις, Thursday, 8 January 2015 21:36 (nine years ago) link

thank fuck for that

Tanukious D' (wins), Thursday, 8 January 2015 21:44 (nine years ago) link

my question was why.

1. rap became pop. pop music is rarely political, esp since I dunno, end of Vietnam War era.
2. it became passe, seen as corny to be overtly "conscious"/"political". this goes for just about every genre that once wore its heart on it sleeve.

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Thursday, 8 January 2015 21:46 (nine years ago) link

I don't think it's wrong to note that rap is different now, just that all the ways and reasons for it cited by RT were basically wrong

Οὖτις, Thursday, 8 January 2015 21:50 (nine years ago) link

http://i.imgur.com/PlAnnXF.jpg

See you soon, little racoon.

Moka, Thursday, 8 January 2015 21:52 (nine years ago) link

forks with the comic timing

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, 8 January 2015 21:59 (nine years ago) link

"with the protest song "cash rules everything around me"

Rza actually quotes this to Paul Walker in the movie Brick Mansions and then says "You heard of that one?" Meta-hilarity!!

scott seward, Thursday, 8 January 2015 22:23 (nine years ago) link


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