Xp: was wondering about that post myself.
― how's life, Thursday, 8 January 2015 04:53 (nine years ago) link
(xp ... altho Banner was around before the mid-00s, which means he might be arbitrarily excluded from RT's extremely labile classifications)
― I can just, like, YOLO with Uber (bernard snowy), Thursday, 8 January 2015 04:56 (nine years ago) link
I guess I don't care whether I'm talking to a sock or not... I must have become truly jaded. #shrugemoticon
― I can just, like, YOLO with Uber (bernard snowy), Thursday, 8 January 2015 04:57 (nine years ago) link
weird to me that no one cared about new national anthem; one of the better tracks on the album imo
― shmup....smug....shmub....shmug.... (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 8 January 2015 05:08 (nine years ago) link
I don't think it matters much whether he's a sock, but Paul Edward Wagemann wasn't a sock either, as far as I know...
― JoeStork, Thursday, 8 January 2015 06:42 (nine years ago) link
Isn't this the exact same thread you made a few weeks ago?
― Moka, Thursday, 8 January 2015 07:15 (nine years ago) link
Well, my response is the same as in the past thread: blame Pharrell
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=U4chHBO_RTA
― Moka, Thursday, 8 January 2015 07:30 (nine years ago) link
O.T. Genasis mang
― Eggs and the marketing board behind them, Thursday, 8 January 2015 07:31 (nine years ago) link
He also collaborated with Daft Punk so before you start the "when did EDM became so corporate?" :
Pharrell. Fucking Pharrell.
― Moka, Thursday, 8 January 2015 07:33 (nine years ago) link
If given the chance he will ruin our last bastion of non corporate music: Salsa.
― Moka, Thursday, 8 January 2015 08:23 (nine years ago) link
I'm not really sure what this thread is about anymore, seems defined in a pretty arbitrary way as Rev points out - what counts as social/political consciousness, why the 10 year limit, this notion that it's about "Corporate rule$$ keep the people dumb" (wot?)...
But for the sake of argument, did we mention:
Lil B - where to begin? B's always rapped about swag and teh BIG issues, having some "'knowledge' song on your album..." Just off the top of my head:
No Black Person Is Ugly: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=83p69JhDnwULifes Hard: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bfc6fvNlE_IGiving Up: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hg1YAbq8gb8The Age Of Information: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=corY-FZAZog
Lil Herb's mixtape from last year had tons of reflexive/critical moments on it, and this is coming out of Chicago!
4 Minutes Of Hell PT3: http://genius.com/Lil-herb-4-minutes-of-hell-part-3-lyricsFight or Flight (Remix feat. Chance The Rapper & Common): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YtS_AvUfvfA Lil Herb - Mamma Im Sorry: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qDvNRs2A4gU
SaveMoney crew:
Chance, Everybody's Something: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gctf0n8b3F4Chance, Pusha Man: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N0DcVbSYWUA
They murking kids; they murder kids hereWhy you think they don't talk about it? They deserted us hereWhere the fuck is Matt Lauer at? Somebody get Katie Couric in hereProbably scared of all the refugees, look like we had a fuckin' hurricane hereThey'll be shooting whether it's dark or not, I mean, the days is pretty dark a lotDown here, it's easier to find a gun than it is to find a fucking parking spotNo love for the opposition, specifically a cop positionCause they've never been in our positionGetting violations for the nation, correlating, you dry snitchin'
I assumed we covered Kendrick, but then what about Ab-Soul:
Terrorist Threats: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_71q5lVEjc
Dunno, could go on and on, but feel like this is a bit of a pointless exercise. "Conscious raps" can be ID'd all over the place, but the concept is also kind of a weak construct; this is some pretty basic shit, but a track might be considered political on a number of different levels and angles. As many point out in this thread, it doesn't have to be about explicitly "socio-political" lyrics or even themes. Artists that overly indulge in the latter often don't produce very interesting work. It can be as much about the reception, the beats and social context.
― MikoMcha, Thursday, 8 January 2015 09:35 (nine years ago) link
Oh damn I'm getting a corporate hip hop sonning from Nikki Minaj and Charlie XCX superfans again
Nearly damn all the artists in the list social or political themes dominated a large part of their music
Lets look at the biggest rappers out now and see if that holds for them
Nikki Minaj NOPEWiz Khalifa NOPETyler Creator NOPEMigos NOPEYoung Thug NOPEDrake NOPEChief Keef NOPEIggy NOPESchoolboy Q NOPEASAP Rocky NOPEFrench Montana NOPERick Ross NOPEJay Z NOPEJuicy J NOPEPitbull NOPE50 Cent NOPEFuture NOPEYG NOPEJeezy NOPEClipse NOPEAction Bronson NOPERiff Raff NOPEBobby Shmurda NOPE
Content: LEAN, X, BITCHES, BLOWJOBS, CARS, SNEAKERS, CRIME, WEED, NIGGAS THAT AINT FUCKING WITH THEM.
Whoever you got left, Lil B? Kendrick? Vince Staples? ok. I'm right.
― ..but is he a virtuoso? (Raccoon Tanuki), Thursday, 8 January 2015 10:58 (nine years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W9QG7JfzuTA
― based grandpa (noz), Thursday, 8 January 2015 12:43 (nine years ago) link
Jeezy NOPE
You are so stupid.
― Matt DC, Thursday, 8 January 2015 12:45 (nine years ago) link
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― Rallsballs@onelist.com (stevie), Thursday, 8 January 2015 12:57 (nine years ago) link
― Matt DC,
haha at you coming back with ONE rapper from that list of like 30 xD
Jeezy, the coke rapper who released an album called Recession and spent most of it talking about how rich he is, and coke. Yeah, "politcal themes dominating a large part of their music" really applies to Jeezy ahahahahahahah.
I repeat Jeezy: NOPE.
Matt DC = YOU are so stupid.
LOL he picked out 1 rapper from the huge list lmao.
― ..but is he a virtuoso? (Raccoon Tanuki), Thursday, 8 January 2015 13:10 (nine years ago) link
I'm honestly in awe that someone wrote the sentence "I'm losing swag by the second with you lames" in 2015.
― The Reverend, Thursday, 8 January 2015 13:11 (nine years ago) link
I dunno what to say, man. Besides the fact that you're reducing entire artist's catalogs to 'NOPE' - maybe you should just join a church and listen to some other stuff?
I mean, to just take one from that list, how is Future's 'Turn Off the Lights' about 'Neva End' or 'I Be U' about 'BITCHES'? Or any of those other things?
― MikoMcha, Thursday, 8 January 2015 13:14 (nine years ago) link
Funny how guys on this tip always manage to sneak in their own misogyny there.
― The Reverend, Thursday, 8 January 2015 13:23 (nine years ago) link
― The Reverend,
I have never been in awe of a twelve year old.
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 8 January 2015 13:26 (nine years ago) link
RT making me concerned for the youth in 2015.
― MikoMcha, Thursday, 8 January 2015 13:28 (nine years ago) link
I didn't even mention yet the hip hop around the world that caught like fire and used for political messages. That's one of the reasons when USA rappers come back from Europe they always say European hip hop is the most knowledgeable fans, only place where hip hop is keeping it real. HH caught on around the world with young people like it did because it it's political and social aspect was such a major part of it. From Sarejavo to Paris to Berlin to Russia all these Euros caught on like crazy to it. Not for modern coke and bitches raps.
― ..but is he a virtuoso? (Raccoon Tanuki), Thursday, 8 January 2015 13:40 (nine years ago) link
if you've never heard coke rap that tries to make a social/economic/political point then you haven't been listening hard enough
awful thread.
― out here like a flopson (tpp), Thursday, 8 January 2015 13:44 (nine years ago) link
If you delete all the RT posts it's actually a pretty good thread imo.
― Re-Make/Re-Model, Thursday, 8 January 2015 13:47 (nine years ago) link
Gasp in amazement as he spectacularly misunderstands the difference between an artifact and a culture.
― tsrobodo, Thursday, 8 January 2015 13:55 (nine years ago) link
There's some artfulness to it. So amazingly terrible.
― MikoMcha, Thursday, 8 January 2015 13:55 (nine years ago) link
Tanuki is the kind of racoon that goes to rap shows just to be able to shout REAL HIP HOP really loud. (insert hashtag at will)
― longneck, Thursday, 8 January 2015 13:56 (nine years ago) link
Lol at all you lames straightlacing your low cut doc martins on message board.
If you listen to Nikki Minaj your opinion on this topic is worthless. Lex, Some Dude, Dyl, all you guys, you probably never even heard of most of the rappers in first post.
― ..but is he a virtuoso? (Raccoon Tanuki), Thursday, 8 January 2015 14:04 (nine years ago) link
― longneck
Shows how poorly you misread me then. I'm way over your heads. You listen to Minaj, how can you think you have a say in this matter?
― ..but is he a virtuoso? (Raccoon Tanuki), Thursday, 8 January 2015 14:06 (nine years ago) link
https://33.media.tumblr.com/95098a5af8764fe085d733dae9f83479/tumblr_n1orn5xclq1rpc5kho1_500.gif
― MikoMcha, Thursday, 8 January 2015 14:07 (nine years ago) link
that's fucking cruel
― ..but is he a virtuoso? (Raccoon Tanuki), Thursday, 8 January 2015 14:08 (nine years ago) link
Is your username a reference to One Piece?
― tsrobodo, Thursday, 8 January 2015 14:09 (nine years ago) link
You do realize that your "you listen to"-taunts make it very difficult for other people to take you seriously, right?
― longneck, Thursday, 8 January 2015 14:13 (nine years ago) link
Where have all the socially/politically conscious rappers gone?
Long time passing
Long time ago
Gone to Bandcamp, every one
When will they ever learn? When they ever learn?
― ancient texts, things that can't be pre-dated (President Keyes), Thursday, 8 January 2015 14:15 (nine years ago) link
raccoon how old are you? serious question
― marcos, Thursday, 8 January 2015 15:07 (nine years ago) link
also, why do you post here? serious question
Had too much swag, needed to shed some
― ancient texts, things that can't be pre-dated (President Keyes), Thursday, 8 January 2015 15:17 (nine years ago) link
if RT is not a sock I'm kind of stoked for his presence here, real old school ilx troll feel
― deej loaf (D-40), Thursday, 8 January 2015 15:31 (nine years ago) link
no he needs to go, check him out on the Charlie Hebdo thread and then hit FP
― some kind of terrible IDM with guitars (sleeve), Thursday, 8 January 2015 15:34 (nine years ago) link
yr exercise in pointing out that the most popular rappers of today are rarely explicitly political is pretty useless considering that if you were to apply the same test to the most popular rappers of the supposedly halcyon days u refer to in yr first post, they would still fail the test. w/ 2-3 exceptions depending on how permissive u wanna be, the artists listed in the op were not among the most successful rap artists of their day.
― dyl, Thursday, 8 January 2015 15:38 (nine years ago) link
Some of this concious stuff doesn't age that well, even at the time I used to wince at the KRS One tracks where he tries to chat like a ragga mc from the Yard. In recent times old lags like Juicy J and Gangsta Boo have released far better albums than anything from that era imo. At least in this era twats like Brand Nubians are recognised for what they are - completely fucking worthless hateful arseholes.
― xelab, Wednesday, January 7, 2015 8:05 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
eh some of the ignorant shit doesnt age well either, i do kind of think conscious rap gets a bad rap these days
― deej loaf (D-40), Thursday, 8 January 2015 15:42 (nine years ago) link
This thread has given us a gif of a raccoon with a jet pack if nothing else, so my morning is made.
― Losing swag by the second (Dan Peterson), Thursday, 8 January 2015 15:57 (nine years ago) link
leave it to ILX posters to start talking about... feminism and gay rights and transgenders. This is hilarious. Why do I even post here with you saps. I'm losing swag by the second with you lames.
So, are you going to take accountability for this incredibly wrongheaded and generally fucked up statement?
― ed.b, Thursday, 8 January 2015 16:13 (nine years ago) link
do you even have to ask
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 8 January 2015 16:24 (nine years ago) link
― ed.b,
lmao
yr exercise in pointing out that the most popular rappers of today are rarely explicitly political is pretty useless considering that if you were to apply the same test to the most popular rappers of the supposedly halcyon days u refer to in yr first post, they would still fail the test. w/ 2-3 exceptions depending on how permissive u wanna be, the artists listed in the op were not among the most successful rap artists of their day.― dyl,
― dyl,
Dumb shit said by Nikki Minaj and Charlie XCX fans in this thread #4080
― ..but is he a virtuoso? (Raccoon Tanuki), Thursday, 8 January 2015 17:10 (nine years ago) link
Oh no, he's back
― The World's Strangest Man 2014 (Tom D.), Thursday, 8 January 2015 17:12 (nine years ago) link
Explain.
― MikoMcha, Thursday, 8 January 2015 17:19 (nine years ago) link
Or was your use of bold text supposed to be self-evident?
― MikoMcha, Thursday, 8 January 2015 17:21 (nine years ago) link
"Charli XCX fan" is not perhaps the damning insult that RT, judging from the number of times he's used it, believes it to be.
― Re-Make/Re-Model, Thursday, 8 January 2015 17:21 (nine years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iF1GudpHqeg
― scott seward, Thursday, 8 January 2015 17:21 (nine years ago) link