What happened to socially/politically concious rappers

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=go3C4BL-lfs

example (crüt), Wednesday, 7 January 2015 23:14 (nine years ago) link

though contra that drawing I think Raccoon Tanuki fulfils an important role in the ilx ecosystem

they TRY to look like GOOD people (soref), Wednesday, 7 January 2015 23:17 (nine years ago) link

leave it to ILX posters to start talking about "Macklemore" and feminism and gay rights and transgenders. This is hilarious. Why do I even post here with you saps. I'm losing swag by the second with you lames.

great post

and I explained the Bechdel Test to her (sleepingbag), Wednesday, 7 January 2015 23:18 (nine years ago) link

'raccoon rapping' is a v worthwhile youtube search

they TRY to look like GOOD people (soref), Wednesday, 7 January 2015 23:22 (nine years ago) link

Great new dn

Losing swag by the second (Dan Peterson), Wednesday, 7 January 2015 23:22 (nine years ago) link

We should use this thread to post DOPE current explicitly political rappers imo

I like mick Jenkins

Also raccoon t should check out the jacka whose new tape is packed with pro black agit prop

Underachievers don't rlly have a coherent message but they def incorporate lots of the imagery and iconography as a kind of hook

deej loaf (D-40), Wednesday, 7 January 2015 23:35 (nine years ago) link

That Dizzy Wright track is really good.
Also, good to hear Nikkiya again, really like her voice, that SpeakHerLove album was fun...........

m0stlyClean, Wednesday, 7 January 2015 23:52 (nine years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLEAT_kd4ns

bit of a singles monster (Eazy), Thursday, 8 January 2015 00:17 (nine years ago) link

This should do

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6lIqNjC1RKU

ed.b, Thursday, 8 January 2015 00:30 (nine years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7bZ08RNUyM

lex pretend, Thursday, 8 January 2015 00:33 (nine years ago) link

Never did figure out the unambiguously explicit, content-based political rap embed game:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6lIqNjC1RKU

ed.b, Thursday, 8 January 2015 00:33 (nine years ago) link

whoops, that was just the same link.

http://youtu.be/6lIqNjC1RKU

ed.b, Thursday, 8 January 2015 00:35 (nine years ago) link

if he won't acknowledge that Vince Staples song as 'political' then idk we should probably start a new thread to post good songs into instead of losing them in this nonsense

Spottie, Thursday, 8 January 2015 00:41 (nine years ago) link

Some of this concious stuff doesn't age that well, even at the time I used to wince at the KRS One tracks where he tries to chat like a ragga mc from the Yard. In recent times old lags like Juicy J and Gangsta Boo have released far better albums than anything from that era imo. At least in this era twats like Brand Nubians are recognised for what they are - completely fucking worthless hateful arseholes.

xelab, Thursday, 8 January 2015 02:05 (nine years ago) link

omg donk raccoon

JoeStork, Thursday, 8 January 2015 02:15 (nine years ago) link

are we all pretending Tanuki didn't drop the sock last week

The Complainte of Ray Tabano, Thursday, 8 January 2015 02:18 (nine years ago) link

outta Boston:

http://youtu.be/U_0hhrETT_8

never have i been a blue calm sea (collardio gelatinous), Thursday, 8 January 2015 02:49 (nine years ago) link

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never have i been a blue calm sea (collardio gelatinous), Thursday, 8 January 2015 02:51 (nine years ago) link

blach i forgot how to embed the yootoobs

never have i been a blue calm sea (collardio gelatinous), Thursday, 8 January 2015 02:52 (nine years ago) link

^all these are out of the 617

never have i been a blue calm sea (collardio gelatinous), Thursday, 8 January 2015 02:54 (nine years ago) link

you don't have to look all that hard to run into this type of stuff, if you listen to local hip-hop at all. the local scene is laced with it.

never have i been a blue calm sea (collardio gelatinous), Thursday, 8 January 2015 03:03 (nine years ago) link

so i pretty much disagree that "socially conscious" lyrics are not part of "the fabric of hip hop identity" (to quote the OP) anymore. not from where i sit, anyhow.

never have i been a blue calm sea (collardio gelatinous), Thursday, 8 January 2015 03:06 (nine years ago) link

only young politically conscious rapper: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RH9kl6XZixo

lettered and hapful (symsymsym), Thursday, 8 January 2015 03:50 (nine years ago) link

leave it to ILX posters to start talking about "Macklemore" and feminism and gay rights and transgenders. This is hilarious. Why do I even post here with you saps. I'm losing swag by the second with you lames.

Haha. As an activist transgender black feminist rap fan, whose freaking day job is working with black youth (some of whom are aspiring rappers with explicitly political content) to help them navigate systemic -isms, and who has despised Macklemore for a good decade or so, fuck you and your swag.

The Reverend, Thursday, 8 January 2015 04:15 (nine years ago) link

Seems like the main problem is our poor racoon has never had his received wisdom challenged and flips whenever anyone brings a critical analysis to the table that doesn't align with the worldview he's already ingrained. Also, I'm not sure if he is a black racoon or a white racoon but he seems to think that only the interests of straight cisgender black men (and other clever mammals) can qualify as political, which is especially suspect if he is a white raccon.

The Reverend, Thursday, 8 January 2015 04:24 (nine years ago) link

I'd also like to point out that he is asking for artists that have appeared within the past ten years when the list of artists in his OP first appeared over a more than 30 year period, and a few of them only released their most political work after the 90s.

The Reverend, Thursday, 8 January 2015 04:27 (nine years ago) link

To appease the racoon tho: https://soundcloud.com/tef-poe/war-cry-produced-by-dj-smitty-jay-nixon-diss-record

The Reverend, Thursday, 8 January 2015 04:34 (nine years ago) link

are we all pretending Tanuki didn't drop the sock last week

― The Complainte of Ray Tabano, Wednesday, January 7, 2015 9:18 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

who did what now

un chill goon (some dude), Thursday, 8 January 2015 04:45 (nine years ago) link

the David Banner shout-out in the Tef Poe track rev posted reminds me that he hasn't been mentioned yet ITT

I can just, like, YOLO with Uber (bernard snowy), Thursday, 8 January 2015 04:52 (nine years ago) link

Xp: was wondering about that post myself.

how's life, Thursday, 8 January 2015 04:53 (nine years ago) link

(xp ... altho Banner was around before the mid-00s, which means he might be arbitrarily excluded from RT's extremely labile classifications)

I can just, like, YOLO with Uber (bernard snowy), Thursday, 8 January 2015 04:56 (nine years ago) link

I guess I don't care whether I'm talking to a sock or not... I must have become truly jaded. #shrugemoticon

I can just, like, YOLO with Uber (bernard snowy), Thursday, 8 January 2015 04:57 (nine years ago) link

weird to me that no one cared about new national anthem; one of the better tracks on the album imo

shmup....smug....shmub....shmug.... (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 8 January 2015 05:08 (nine years ago) link

I don't think it matters much whether he's a sock, but Paul Edward Wagemann wasn't a sock either, as far as I know...

JoeStork, Thursday, 8 January 2015 06:42 (nine years ago) link

Isn't this the exact same thread you made a few weeks ago?

Moka, Thursday, 8 January 2015 07:15 (nine years ago) link

Well, my response is the same as in the past thread: blame Pharrell

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=U4chHBO_RTA

Moka, Thursday, 8 January 2015 07:30 (nine years ago) link

O.T. Genasis mang

Eggs and the marketing board behind them, Thursday, 8 January 2015 07:31 (nine years ago) link

He also collaborated with Daft Punk so before you start the "when did EDM became so corporate?" :

Pharrell. Fucking Pharrell.

Moka, Thursday, 8 January 2015 07:33 (nine years ago) link

If given the chance he will ruin our last bastion of non corporate music: Salsa.

Moka, Thursday, 8 January 2015 08:23 (nine years ago) link

I'm not really sure what this thread is about anymore, seems defined in a pretty arbitrary way as Rev points out - what counts as social/political consciousness, why the 10 year limit, this notion that it's about "Corporate rule$$ keep the people dumb" (wot?)...

But for the sake of argument, did we mention:

Lil B - where to begin? B's always rapped about swag and teh BIG issues, having some "'knowledge' song on your album..." Just off the top of my head:

No Black Person Is Ugly: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=83p69JhDnwU
Lifes Hard: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bfc6fvNlE_I
Giving Up: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hg1YAbq8gb8
The Age Of Information: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=corY-FZAZog

Lil Herb's mixtape from last year had tons of reflexive/critical moments on it, and this is coming out of Chicago!

4 Minutes Of Hell PT3: http://genius.com/Lil-herb-4-minutes-of-hell-part-3-lyrics
Fight or Flight (Remix feat. Chance The Rapper & Common): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YtS_AvUfvfA
Lil Herb - Mamma Im Sorry: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qDvNRs2A4gU

SaveMoney crew:

Chance, Everybody's Something: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gctf0n8b3F4
Chance, Pusha Man: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N0DcVbSYWUA

They murking kids; they murder kids here
Why you think they don't talk about it? They deserted us here
Where the fuck is Matt Lauer at? Somebody get Katie Couric in here
Probably scared of all the refugees, look like we had a fuckin' hurricane here
They'll be shooting whether it's dark or not, I mean, the days is pretty dark a lot
Down here, it's easier to find a gun than it is to find a fucking parking spot
No love for the opposition, specifically a cop position
Cause they've never been in our position
Getting violations for the nation, correlating, you dry snitchin'

I assumed we covered Kendrick, but then what about Ab-Soul:

Terrorist Threats: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_71q5lVEjc

Dunno, could go on and on, but feel like this is a bit of a pointless exercise. "Conscious raps" can be ID'd all over the place, but the concept is also kind of a weak construct; this is some pretty basic shit, but a track might be considered political on a number of different levels and angles. As many point out in this thread, it doesn't have to be about explicitly "socio-political" lyrics or even themes. Artists that overly indulge in the latter often don't produce very interesting work. It can be as much about the reception, the beats and social context.

MikoMcha, Thursday, 8 January 2015 09:35 (nine years ago) link

Oh damn I'm getting a corporate hip hop sonning from Nikki Minaj and Charlie XCX superfans again

Nearly damn all the artists in the list social or political themes dominated a large part of their music

Lets look at the biggest rappers out now and see if that holds for them

Nikki Minaj NOPE
Wiz Khalifa NOPE
Tyler Creator NOPE
Migos NOPE
Young Thug NOPE
Drake NOPE
Chief Keef NOPE
Iggy NOPE
Schoolboy Q NOPE
ASAP Rocky NOPE
French Montana NOPE
Rick Ross NOPE
Jay Z NOPE
Juicy J NOPE
Pitbull NOPE
50 Cent NOPE
Future NOPE
YG NOPE
Jeezy NOPE
Clipse NOPE
Action Bronson NOPE
Riff Raff NOPE
Bobby Shmurda NOPE

Content: LEAN, X, BITCHES, BLOWJOBS, CARS, SNEAKERS, CRIME, WEED, NIGGAS THAT AINT FUCKING WITH THEM.

Whoever you got left, Lil B? Kendrick? Vince Staples? ok. I'm right.

..but is he a virtuoso? (Raccoon Tanuki), Thursday, 8 January 2015 10:58 (nine years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W9QG7JfzuTA

based grandpa (noz), Thursday, 8 January 2015 12:43 (nine years ago) link

Jeezy NOPE

You are so stupid.

Matt DC, Thursday, 8 January 2015 12:45 (nine years ago) link

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Rallsballs@onelist.com (stevie), Thursday, 8 January 2015 12:57 (nine years ago) link

Jeezy NOPE

You are so stupid.

― Matt DC,

haha at you coming back with ONE rapper from that list of like 30 xD

Jeezy, the coke rapper who released an album called Recession and spent most of it talking about how rich he is, and coke. Yeah, "politcal themes dominating a large part of their music" really applies to Jeezy ahahahahahahah.

I repeat Jeezy: NOPE.

Matt DC = YOU are so stupid.

LOL he picked out 1 rapper from the huge list lmao.

..but is he a virtuoso? (Raccoon Tanuki), Thursday, 8 January 2015 13:10 (nine years ago) link

I'm honestly in awe that someone wrote the sentence "I'm losing swag by the second with you lames" in 2015.

The Reverend, Thursday, 8 January 2015 13:11 (nine years ago) link


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