What happened to socially/politically concious rappers

music industry is so much broader/diffuse now, of course there's space for politics. whether it occupies top 40 pop space (which has shrunk as a percentage of the industry) fluctuates, as it always has.

xp

hurricane katrina was 2005 jackass

again, why do I bother

XXXP - Plenty of under-40s have been listed too, you stupid obtuse fuck

All we wanted was a chance to talk
'Stead we've only got outlined in chalk
By Raccoon Tanuki

Haha

RT, why even ask this question if you're not gonna give an inch with your own answer?

you haven't met, i take it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6YTusMMJCGU

wasnt college dropout released in 2004? FFS, kanye isnt 'new' enough?

you stupid obtuse fuck

― Futuristic Bow Wow (thewufs)

shut the fuck up

― Οὖτις,

You seem like a nice, intelligent, well thought out guys.

i mean, who cares how old he is. seriously. rap ageism is self defeating.

Same old popists getting mad on the message boards!

― ..but is he a virtuoso? (Raccoon Tanuki), Wednesday, January 7, 2015 12:40 PM (23 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yea and this thread is proceeding exactly like the last one about poptimism. you're repeating your opinion to death and you respond to anyone's attempt to engage in discussion or give a counter-argument with "NOPE, SORRY!!!!"

"What happened to socially/politically concious rappers?"
"Here are some names and YouTube links"
"No! They are all too old/too bad/I haven't heard them"
"Great discussion, thanx"

it's true I am very well thought out

xxp

as a sock you are also p well thought out tbh

yea and this thread is proceeding exactly like the last one about poptimism. you're repeating your opinion to death and you respond to anyone's attempt to engage in discussion or give a counter-argument with "NOPE, SORRY!!!!"

― marcos,

When? You're just making this up.

The first reply to thread was "You are a confused young man". Then someone said the list was wrong. Then someone said i was English, then a lot of people dodged the question, and still are.

It's just so bizarre to me that someone would start a discussion and then immediately, obstinately (smugly?) refuse to engage - and do this over and over again. It's totally standard internet trolling behavior, I know, I just don't get the psychology of it.

Raccoon Tenacity

xp - but that's exactly what you are all doing, not me. I'm asking a question that no one seems to want to answer or acknowledge as being relevent. All you do is say SOCK SOCK ignore the SOCK, tell me to fuck off, and then get mad, over and over again.

the first post you made int he thread was "you stupid fuck" and you're telling me this? I think you have some issues.

Except that I gave you reasons and examples, as did other people, and you just refused to accept them so we all decided this was a waste of time. Not mad, just bored with someone who won't listen.

No you are mad, I didn't agree with whatever suggestions were made, in fact I've only had a few artists given who would even loosely qualify. All of them I've commented on. Not a single person has engaged in the debate as to why it has changed, another poster came in to say everyone was dodging my point, and you all shouted him down too.

RT, lots of people have respectfully engaged with your question, one way or another. Good evidence has been presented that political concerns are still strongly present in contemporary rap. But you're ignoring all that. You post only to dismiss or confront, never to actually converse. As a result, no surprise, your thread is fucked.

You're arguing the wrong point, the question of the relative lack of political rappers isn't even up for debate, my question was why.

"Good evidence has been presented that political concerns are still strongly present in contemporary rap"

Where? This is just bullshit. No one outside this board would say this.

it's easier to get through these threads if you imagine RT's speaking voice to be Cookie Monster

XP to RT - This wasn't my discussion to begin with. Nothing else anybody said seemed to work, so I thought, "What about open hostility?" And I jumped in.

the question of the relative lack of political rappers isn't even up for debate

false

Where? This is just bullshit. No one outside this board would say this.

LITERALLY NO ONE

as demonstrated by the lengthy list of political statements from current rappers that have been cited, none of which you will acknowledge as containing political content or as being from "current" rappers. your premise is faulty, and your arguments are dishonest.

see I can play nice too

Krayzie Bone in a song from recently

[Verse 2]
Everybody asks me
What happened to conscious rap?
And I say we tell em'
The money and the power
MC's have been silenced by the dollar
So with the struggle they don't want to be bothered
Emergency, the game's unresponsive
Turn on the radio, you're listening to garbage
9 out of 10 of their hit songs is nonsense
I need somebody to tell me how they got in here"

i found one

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D8wLa3-Q2CU

xp question answered then

/thread

yo remember the old days

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ArZnKvbOxk

I dumbed down for my audience to double my dollars /
They criticize me for it yet they all yell holla /
If skills sold truth be told I’d probably be lyrically Talib Kweli /
Truthfully I wanna rhyme like Common Sense /
But I sold five mill, and I haven't rhymed like Common since.” -

Jay-Z, “Moment of Clarity”

tresor, what happened?

trax, what happened?

hip house, what happened?

ball in the street, what happened?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BNyDjkPO8l0

I dumbed down for my audience to double my dollars /
They criticize me for it yet they all yell holla /
If skills sold truth be told I’d probably be lyrically Talib Kweli /
Truthfully I wanna rhyme like Common Sense /
But I sold five mill, and I haven't rhymed like Common since.” -

Jay-Z, “Moment of Clarity”

― ..but is he a virtuoso? (Raccoon Tanuki), Wednesday, January 7, 2015 1:34 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yo, for real, he said that?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wKwdHqdrw1Y

conscious as fuck

Engaging with this shit is so 2014, FPs all round

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJG0ir9nDtc

another sock rapper

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C99iG4HoO1c

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BwuJzo9eX9k

If you want to talk about the popular demise of explicitly "conscious" rap, I think there's an argument to be made there, but one which requires actual forethought (hint, hint). Also I've listened to like 5 new rap records total in the past year so I could be full of shit (HINT, HINT).

serious answer: American pop-rap audiences have yet to recover from City High

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LahcSFleKm8

http://hyakumonogatari.files.wordpress.com/2013/08/utagawa-tanuki-balls.jpg

Strong black voice are being oppressed, popular Hip Hop is now used as a means to moral degradation and oppression.
Positive messages are being silenced
There's no interest in moral guidance in rap now
Jay Z is where he is because he never challenged the system

"When the '90s were coming in, a whole bunch of different things were happening in society that rap music was answering to, which showed itself as being a diverse art form," he recalled. "Therefore, the threat of black people having something to say, with their large vocabularies through rap music, was something that kind of threw the media on its side for a minute. So I saw this coming."

http://www.austinweeklynews.com/News/Articles/7-9-2008/What-happened-to-Hip-Hop%27s-social-consciousness%3F/

Leave it to the rest of the internet to have a intelligent debate on this topic than this sorry place I guess.

"People started giving drug dealers props. I've seen neighborhoods wiped out by drug dealers for like a 15- to 20-year period. It's very easy to take advantage of black people because it's been done for 300 years, and we've learned to love the abuse."

RT's speaking voice to be Cookie Monster

OG Sesame Street, or death metal? Either way, huge lol, A+