Good books about music

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i gave my brother the george clinton book for xmas. half wanted to keep it for myself

difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 31 December 2014 18:48 (nine years ago) link

regarding all the new beatles books, what could possibly be revealed in a new one? honest question

marcos, Wednesday, 31 December 2014 18:51 (nine years ago) link

I read that Road to Exile book (I put out a book through Da Capo years ago and they continue to send me ARCs of all their music stuff). It was boring.

Humorist (horse) (誤訳侮辱), Wednesday, 31 December 2014 19:48 (nine years ago) link

xpost

not so much new but really wonderfully integrated with cultural/music/social history and with a level of care & enthusiasm rarely seen. dude wanted to give the best possible history of the beatles & truly succeeds

difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 31 December 2014 21:01 (nine years ago) link

I mentioned this on the Canterbury Scene thread, but I was disappointed in the new Robert Wyatt bio.

WilliamC, Wednesday, 31 December 2014 22:01 (nine years ago) link

I enjoyed the McCartney In The 70's book very much.

MaresNest, Wednesday, 31 December 2014 22:13 (nine years ago) link

the Weisbard book is excellent -- I finished it a few days ago.

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 31 December 2014 22:15 (nine years ago) link

haven't read the lewisohn book yet but while there are a lot of beatles bios there hasn't really been one that i'd feel totally comfortable recommending, that feels definitive and objective and well-written in the way that the guralnick/elvis or jon savage/sex pistols books are. so even if there's nothing groundbreaking it feels like there's still space for someone to come along and do the job right, quietly correcting all the misconceptions and adding balance and context.

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Wednesday, 31 December 2014 22:16 (nine years ago) link

i think lewisohn definitely fills that gap

difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 31 December 2014 22:41 (nine years ago) link

Seconded. And I'd argue that Lewisohn's writing style is less dry/clinical than Guralnick's, while providing an incredibly vivid sense of detail that is as intriguing as it is necessary (speaking as someone who thought, before I read it, "Pfft, I already know about these so-called 'Beatles'!").

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 31 December 2014 22:50 (nine years ago) link

Viv Albertine book is great, as direct and immediate in its way as the Charlie Louvin book.

Pigbag Wanderer (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 1 January 2015 02:53 (nine years ago) link

ohhh the charlie louvin book
so good

difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 1 January 2015 02:54 (nine years ago) link

Like driving in an air-cooled Franklin.

Pigbag Wanderer (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 1 January 2015 03:10 (nine years ago) link

Speaking of which, I just came across a book that looks interesting with a chapter on Charlie: In the Country of Country: A Journey to the Roots of American Music, by Nicholas Dawidoff.

Pigbag Wanderer (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 1 January 2015 03:27 (nine years ago) link

been working on Yeah, Yeah, Yeah. It's been interesting to learn about the hits from the 50s and early 60s that I wasn't very familiar with, but some of the chapters read a bit like big lists of songs. Been listening along to this playlist that painstakingly organized the songs from the book in order of mention:

http://open.spotify.com/user/unterwasser/playlist/6Yn3GrP6D6dOSfKFfpzAiC

Free Me's Electric Trumpet (Moodles), Thursday, 1 January 2015 03:41 (nine years ago) link

Need to get back to that book. Thanks for teh link.

Pigbag Wanderer (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 1 January 2015 03:46 (nine years ago) link

May still have a few clippings, but really want to find a copy of his whole run (also, still need to check his own music!) He was really good, on so many things: got me to look for The Plastic People of Prague's secretly recorded, transcontinentally mixed, pressed and smuggled Egon Bondy's Happy Hearts Club Banned---and I found it, on a Tuscaloosa side street in 1985. Also, as he so cruelly informed Charlemagne Palestine, "It doesn't matter who did it first, but who does it best."

dow, Saturday, 3 January 2015 22:56 (nine years ago) link

Oops, meant to post this

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dow, Saturday, 3 January 2015 22:56 (nine years ago) link

Enjoyed this:

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MTV wasn't available up here (not on regular cable, anyway), so I saw almost nothing of it in the early years--a couple of times visiting a friend in Illinois and that was it. I read the book through the filter of Toronto's Much Music, which I can now see very meticulously assembled its VJs to match MTV's: Erica Ehm = Martha Quinn (that one I already knew about), Jeanne Beker = Nina Blackwood, J.D. Roberts = Mark Goodman, Michael Williams = J.J. Jackson, Steve Anthony = Alan Hunter (that one's probably a little iffier).

Two funniest parts: 1) Blackwood telling some story involving somebody from Billy Vera's backing band, and referring to him at least six or seven times as "the Beater"; Dylan, being interviewed by Quinn in the mid-'80s, saying he liked the Police video where they jumped around and wore hats.

clemenza, Saturday, 3 January 2015 23:58 (nine years ago) link

Big influence on D's ace "Must Be Santa" vid (incl. much jumping around, wearing of Santa cap & wig); also we know he's a longtime hat fan (Superfly hat in The Last Waltz, more of a Western-associated hat in Renaldo and Clara, but not a Stetson: those are the earliest stage hats of his I can remember)

dow, Tuesday, 13 January 2015 15:09 (nine years ago) link

Has anybody read Kim Gordon's new book? Generally not big on memoirs and mildly ashamed that I mostly just want to hear her bash Thurston.

...J, Tuesday, 13 January 2015 20:49 (nine years ago) link

Not read it but I would totally read a memoir in which Thurston bashes Kim.

you've got no fans you've got no ground (anagram), Tuesday, 13 January 2015 20:51 (nine years ago) link

Here's a fucking great book about the Who i just read

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/books/bookreviews/11166707/pretend-youre-in-a-war-the-who-and-the-sixties-mark-blake.html

Prince Kajuku (Bill Magill), Tuesday, 13 January 2015 22:33 (nine years ago) link

I've been meaning to check that one out!

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 13 January 2015 23:46 (nine years ago) link

Things that look interesting:
Cowboys and Indies, a history of the recording industry from the point of view of "Record Men," label owners and moguls

Recent history of music industry by Simon Napier-Bell. Looked at first few chapters, a ton of detail about early history of publishing.

Recent Barry Mazor bio of Ralph Peer looks to be a must read.

Zings of Oblivion (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 18 January 2015 16:22 (nine years ago) link

Has anyone read "Pigs Might Fly", the Pink Floyd book mentioned in the Who book review?

Iago Galdston, Sunday, 18 January 2015 16:32 (nine years ago) link

five months pass...

Interesting. Eno goes for an Alan Lomax book

I think I mentioned elsewhere that I want to read the below book by a professor/author who has spoken at several EMP Pop events. The below is an interview with him in which he both praises Peter Guralnik and expresses disagreeement with him and others

http://www.nashvillescene.com/nashville/author-charles-l-hughes-takes-a-swing-at-conventional-wisdom-about-country-soul-and-race/Content?oid=5228976

curmudgeon, Friday, 26 June 2015 15:41 (eight years ago) link

one month passes...

Viv Albertine's book is so so so so great -- loving every single minute of reading it. Some of the stuff about her early life was so resonant to me that I want to write her a letter. Same with Kim Gordon's book, only the part that resonated was about Coco. Really enjoying getting some inside scoop, would recommend either.

La Lechera, Sunday, 26 July 2015 22:40 (eight years ago) link

Want to read Viv's book. Just learned from a Joe Strummer movie doc, that Strummer used to live with Viv's bandmate, drummer Palmolive (aka Paloma)

curmudgeon, Monday, 27 July 2015 13:40 (eight years ago) link

two weeks pass...

ok i am finally almost done with her book
it's really raw and grueling! so glad she didn't agree to a ghost writer.

La Lechera, Tuesday, 11 August 2015 13:34 (eight years ago) link

i recently read two books by LeRoi Jones/Amiri Baraka which I would highly recommend: Blues People and Black Music.

Blues People is just as much about sociology/history as it is about music, describing how blues developed as an expression of the traumatic displacement of slavery. he draws clear lines between the music that black people were making during the slavery and postbellum periods and the popular music of the early 20th century in America, which was interesting to me because the kinds of cross-generation connections i read about are between early 20th century blues/jazz to mid-century R&B/rocknroll.

Black Music is a compilation of his writing about jazz in the late 50s/early 60s, some of them record reviews or profiles for Down Beat and the like, others more experimental or informal pieces for lesser known publications. it's thoughtfully pieced together, though, so that musicians who are introduced as new people on the scene in the context of pieces about other musicians are later given their own feature later in the book. it's hard to explain, but the flow of the book is very organic and it makes you feel like you're gradually getting familiar with the NYC jazz scene in the early 60s (through Baraka's eyes of course) - who the most talented young players are, where the cool clubs are, why brilliant musicians are having trouble finding paying gigs, who's underachieving and who has just lost it completely. you get a long profile of someone like ornette coleman when he was first breaking in and freaking everyone out, but you also get short profiles of jazz drummers who are completely forgotten now. it doesn't come across like Baraka is sitting in an apartment listening to records and writing reviews - it sounds like he's in the middle of the scene and he knows everyone and everyone knows him and he's invested in it - it really comes through in his writing.

1992 ball boy (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 11 August 2015 15:10 (eight years ago) link

I half considered taking the library copy of Blues People and getting it signed by him when he did a reading at NUIG a few years ago but then didn't.
Think it was just pretty pure coincidence that I happened to have their copy of that out when I heard he was reading.

Stevolende, Tuesday, 11 August 2015 17:01 (eight years ago) link

christgau's memoir 'going into the city' is way more about his love life than music but when he condescends to consider music you sorta feel like you're at ground zero for the establishment of predominant critical shibboleths

reggie (qualmsley), Tuesday, 11 August 2015 19:48 (eight years ago) link

Does anyone have a shareable version of that Dennis Wilson book mentioned above?

calstars, Tuesday, 11 August 2015 19:59 (eight years ago) link

take it to "bad books about music" xp

killfile with that .exe, you goon (wins), Tuesday, 11 August 2015 20:01 (eight years ago) link

Those xpost Leroi Jones collections are eloquent and elegant; he really made the most of his word limit for the columns. At the same time, some of the You Are There aspect incl. settling scores with squares and worse, like the club owner who not only refuses to hire an avant pioneer, but is pissed that he can find a gig anywhere. Also the relatively mainstream star who admits just now saw the free jazz light---Jones: "That's a noble confession and all," but what took him so long? Harsh, but understandable in historical contect, and not too ranty (esp. compared to some other writing).
Think these books might have influenced young Bangs, Tosches and others.

dow, Tuesday, 11 August 2015 21:44 (eight years ago) link

christgau makes a thing out of how ishmael reed's 'mumbo jumbo' had a huge influence on him

reggie (qualmsley), Tuesday, 11 August 2015 22:41 (eight years ago) link

christgau's memoir 'going into the city' is way more about his love life than music but when he condescends to consider music you sorta feel like you're at ground zero for the establishment of predominant critical shibboleths

ikr and when he manages to tear himself away from his relationship w/ellen willis and condescend to consider journalism in the mid/late 60s it's pretty interesting like you're at ground zero for the establishment of well, rock criticism. too bad he goes into this "then i reviewed that and it was good if i say so myself and i do" mode for the rest of the book - an insider's overview of the village voice during its 70s heyday would've been something. what the old boy's book totally lacks is any larger perspective/longview on the revolutionary times he lived through. like all those years of micro-reviewing ruined him for macro analysis. he's a good guy for all his quirks, though, reading this made me feel glad and lucky i got to work w/him.

got the club going UP on a tuesday (m coleman), Wednesday, 12 August 2015 11:13 (eight years ago) link

i came away from 'going into the city' liking christgau much more than i went in. it reminded me a lot of donald fagen's 'eminent hipsters' and i wasn't surprised one bit when he quoted himself and his wife carola dibbell at length reviewing steely dan

pairing 'going into the city' with james wolcott's 'lucking out' fleshes out the 'voice' during its 70s heyday a little better

reggie (qualmsley), Wednesday, 12 August 2015 12:34 (eight years ago) link

robertchristgau.com has a good amount of his 60s writing (incl mid-60s Times account profile of a young woman, known for being an early adopter, way before that term was coined, who starved to death on a groovy diet; ends with a speculation that she may have suffered from something called anorexia nervosa---italics his, I think---a condition then mostly known, as such, by medical professionals---it's a time trip). Also in the stash:many other longform pieces,from the 60s, 70s, later, mostly on music, where he has to develop his themes more than in the Guide, with various results (but always thought the 70s and 80s Guide entries hit the peak of compressed insight).
His joint review of the Ellen Willis and Paul Nelson collections is astute, re the achievements and limitations of those writers, ditto the first decades of rock writing.

dow, Wednesday, 12 August 2015 13:00 (eight years ago) link

Ellen Willis' Out of the Vinyl Deeps is sooooooooooooooo good

I've also been reading Ian MacDonald's The People's Music, which is not nearly as good.

droit au butt (Euler), Wednesday, 12 August 2015 13:05 (eight years ago) link

Can anyone here recommend any good books about classical harmony/harmonic analysis etc? Finished a music degree eight years ago and would now like to brush up/expand on my knowledge as I haven't looked at that stuff much since. Any books with interesting analyses of composers/works?

mirostones, Wednesday, 12 August 2015 14:37 (eight years ago) link

Turn back, you poxy fule!

Eternal Return To Earth (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 12 August 2015 16:09 (eight years ago) link

Charles Rosen - the classical style
Same author - the romantic generation

Corn on the macabre (Jon not Jon), Wednesday, 12 August 2015 18:06 (eight years ago) link

Hm. Had seen those books before and was intrigued but never investigated further

Eternal Return To Earth (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 12 August 2015 23:15 (eight years ago) link

Rosen is amazing

Corn on the macabre (Jon not Jon), Thursday, 13 August 2015 02:13 (eight years ago) link

Actually now I remember, this book is pretty good, I came across it last year: Revisiting Music Theory: A Guide to the Practice, by Alfred Blatter

Eternal Return To Earth (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 19 August 2015 11:44 (eight years ago) link

Is the David Byrne one worth reading?

the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Wednesday, 19 August 2015 11:46 (eight years ago) link

someone gave it to me as a gift so i guess i'll find out soon enough (once i read the million other books i wanted to read first)

dyl, Wednesday, 19 August 2015 14:51 (eight years ago) link


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