Because why not: Roger Fidelity's own election day thread, one to the public

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aww, fuck, dude, not HERE. Everyone knows I only get fan mail at my HOTMAIL address! Shiiiiiiiiit. I'm embarrassed for both of us. No, wait - just for you.

Roger Fidelity (Roger Fidelity), Tuesday, 2 November 2004 22:02 (nineteen years ago) link

Are you Dan Quisenberry of the Kansas City Royals?

No. I am BASEBALL SUPERSTAR Dan Quisenberry. I belong to no team.

Dan Quisenberry (deangulberry), Tuesday, 2 November 2004 22:02 (nineteen years ago) link

"tasteful" bumper stickers = an oxymoron (emphasis of course on the MORON)

fuckoffyourightwingfuck, Tuesday, 2 November 2004 22:02 (nineteen years ago) link

http://www.ecu.edu.au/fas/sport/cbc/Fonz.jpg

#1 fan, Tuesday, 2 November 2004 22:06 (nineteen years ago) link

'Contrarian' claims aside, I don't want this to get out of hand.

See, to explain it as I would to a five year old, in the most non-confrontational way I can, is that if you're going to be a pansy ass liberal, fine. Hey, I've slept with them, been in bands with them, called some of them 'sis' or occasionally 'grandma.' I'm MARRYING one of them. But BE a fucking pansy ass liberal. Don't vote for Kerry, who, in any other election against anyone other than Bush The Impaler would be called a 'madman' for his views on gay marriage, war in Iraq, etc, by the same people going to great lengths to support his ass now.

Come on, folks, you're smarter than this. You HAVE to be. Some of you supported Nader last time, who, while a fuckwit, is at least a straight shooter.

Kerry's pandering is so OBVIOUS and transparent. You realize that that photo of him 'hunting,' itself an obvious ploy to 'appeal' to sportsmen, was taken with him holding a gun that the assault weapons ban would essentially make unavailable to anyone?

Roger Fidelity (Roger Fidelity), Tuesday, 2 November 2004 22:21 (nineteen years ago) link

Yeah, but there are plenty of people who are voting for Kerry (or just wanting him to win, like me) who still know that he will be a complete bastard in power. The only question is, who is worse? And it has to be Bush. Not everyone voting for Kerry thinks he is the messiah.

Kevin Gilchrist (Mr Fusion), Tuesday, 2 November 2004 22:24 (nineteen years ago) link

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LE CHUCK!™ (ex machina), Tuesday, 2 November 2004 22:24 (nineteen years ago) link

Don't hate the player, hate the game

W i l l (common_person), Tuesday, 2 November 2004 22:25 (nineteen years ago) link

Yeah, some of Roger's best friends are black people pansy ass liberals!

Dan Quisenberry (deangulberry), Tuesday, 2 November 2004 22:26 (nineteen years ago) link

Like 85% of the President's job is to pander to people.

n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 2 November 2004 22:32 (nineteen years ago) link

so, I don't get it. You all agree with me? You freely admit you are voting in this (and i know you'll hate this) flip-flopper, this opportunistic, condescending mystery man, based soley on the fact that he ISN'T someone else?

God help us all.

Roger Fidelity (Roger Fidelity), Tuesday, 2 November 2004 22:37 (nineteen years ago) link

he exposed IRAN CONTRA

LE CHUCK!™ (ex machina), Tuesday, 2 November 2004 22:38 (nineteen years ago) link

this opportunistic, condescending mystery man suits Bush to a 't'.

Michael White (Hereward), Tuesday, 2 November 2004 22:39 (nineteen years ago) link

Roger, it's called "compromise" and it's something that all adults have to deal with. In this case, it's a pretty fucking good compromise too.

n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 2 November 2004 22:41 (nineteen years ago) link

enjoy your tax hike, Mr Rogers

Roger Fidelity (Roger Fidelity), Tuesday, 2 November 2004 22:41 (nineteen years ago) link

Voting because someone isn't somebody else is the reality of democracy sometimes. Running to hopeless, idealistic third parties is cowardice.

Kevin Gilchrist (Mr Fusion), Tuesday, 2 November 2004 22:42 (nineteen years ago) link

cowardice? Please. Mob mentality is cowardice, my friend. Standing alone and knowing in your heart you are CORRECT is bravery. Standing up to friends, family, and people you respect and telling them you think they're DEAD WRONG takes more balls than it does to join the sheeple in voting in someone who, to me, seems quite opposed to all but the most wishy-washy and moderate of liberal agendas

Roger Fidelity (Roger Fidelity), Tuesday, 2 November 2004 22:45 (nineteen years ago) link

too bad you're such an asshole about it

miccio, I just can't sign in, Tuesday, 2 November 2004 22:49 (nineteen years ago) link

Knowing how to choose one's battles is also important, Roger.

Michael White (Hereward), Tuesday, 2 November 2004 22:49 (nineteen years ago) link

But you have a few choices ahead of you - a vote can't always be an expression of what you believe in, and you have to choose the option that gives the best result. A vote for Badnarik has the same outcome as a vote for Bush - Bush wins. A vote for Kerry is a vote for a different outcome (and the only way to cast your vote that has a different outcome in this case). If you believe Kerry is a (even slightly) better option that Bush you logically have to vote for Kerry. If you think it would be better for Bush, well, vote for Bush, or maybe Badnarik. The tyranny of the majority is different from mob rule, Roger. And idealism is safe, and comforting; those certainties are nice. Using the tool you have to do what is best for your family is strength.

Kevin Gilchrist (Mr Fusion), Tuesday, 2 November 2004 22:50 (nineteen years ago) link

I'm fine with people voting for third party candidates. It's still a vote NOT for Bush. And I have larger beef with the people who won't vote for ANYBODY. Their voice isn't in the electorate. People who vote for third party candidates are at least idealistic and not lazy.

That said, Roger is such a preening, self-gratifying, defensive, disrespectful asshole that I have no desire to commend him for the fact that he "thinks outside the box." woo woo. Here's your cookie.

miccio, for realz, Tuesday, 2 November 2004 22:54 (nineteen years ago) link

he ONLY states his opinion if it means he gets to call someone else stupid. that's some sad shit.

miccio, for realz, Tuesday, 2 November 2004 22:55 (nineteen years ago) link

Roger doesn't bother me on this thread

Curt1s St3ph3ns, Tuesday, 2 November 2004 22:59 (nineteen years ago) link

See, to explain it as I would to a five year old, in the most non-confrontational way I can, is that if you're going to be a pansy ass liberal, fine.

miccio, for realz, Tuesday, 2 November 2004 23:00 (nineteen years ago) link

"fuckoffyourightwingfuck (ass@hole)"

Roger Fidelity (Roger Fidelity), Tuesday, 2 November 2004 23:03 (nineteen years ago) link

i'll be back a little later

Roger Fidelity (Roger Fidelity), Tuesday, 2 November 2004 23:04 (nineteen years ago) link

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Marcel Post (Marcel Post), Tuesday, 2 November 2004 23:08 (nineteen years ago) link

"fuckoffyourightwingfuck (ass@hole)"

like that didn't give you a boner

miccio, for realz, Tuesday, 2 November 2004 23:09 (nineteen years ago) link

i'll be back a little later

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Kevin Gilchrist (Mr Fusion), Tuesday, 2 November 2004 23:11 (nineteen years ago) link

enjoy your tax hike

wow you must make a fucking ton of cash as a truck driver to be in the top 1% of earners, Roger

kyle (akmonday), Tuesday, 2 November 2004 23:12 (nineteen years ago) link

It's a big truck.

Dan Quisenberry (deangulberry), Tuesday, 2 November 2004 23:13 (nineteen years ago) link

You freely admit you are voting in this (and i know you'll hate this) flip-flopper, this opportunistic, condescending mystery man, based soley on the fact that he ISN'T someone else?

Let me tell you a story.

My coworker Tom is Massachusetts born and raised. Known about Kerry pretty much all his life as a result. Way back earlier this year, I asked him about Kerry and what his exact profile was, what he was like, was he well loved, etc. And Tom's point was a simple but effective one:

"Kerry isn't elected because a lot of people really like him. He's elected because the other guy is always worse."

It's looking like that's what's going to happen here. And if the choice is quite simply the difference between two evils in the end, I will choose what I believe is the lesser.

To my mind, Bush answers for much. He answers for ignorance, willful ignorance, in questions of science on a national level. He answers for shallowness, in the sense that 'taking a stand' becomes 'never moving from it.' He answers for lack of responsibilty, for blaming everything that could happen in his administration and to his administration on others than who he picked, approved of, defended. He answers for incompetence as demonstrated in the haphazard idiocy that is the Iraq invasion and occupation, where political expediency constantly came to the fore first and foremost with dire and continuing consequences. He answers for bigotry with the support of the FMA, one of the most pernicious and revolting ideas ever seriously considered to be enshrined as a *core part of the Constitution.*

He answers for the dead. He answers for all the dead. He answers for them all and he can only find an answer by proclaiming that because Saddam and Osama and the like are, inarguably, murderers he himself is a stainless white knight, pure and wonderful and never ever EVER wrong.

He answers for saying "Bring them on." And now how many of my fellow citizens are dead, maimed, have lost friends and lovers and spouses and parents and children? And how many in Iraq found that the land of milk and honey promised by an adminstration that placed its faith in inaccurate intelligence, in political operators, in pie-in-the-sky dreams, is in fact less that now?

He answers for that and so much more. Hopefully he will answer tonight. If not, a pity. But he will answer. And by god if I won't feel the greatest satisfaction seeing him and all the lickspittle buttkissing power-worshipping ignorance-encouraging toadies that tried to ride every coattail of his no matter what price principles or their souls suffer in the answering.

Let them burn.

If Kerry fails more spectacularly on all these kinds of fronts, let him burn too. But the hunch, right now, is that he would not. He is yet untested in the role. Bush is. AND LET HIM BURN.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 2 November 2004 23:23 (nineteen years ago) link

so, I don't get it. You all agree with me? You freely admit you are voting in this (and i know you'll hate this) flip-flopper, this opportunistic, condescending mystery man, based soley on the fact that he ISN'T someone else?

I know, it kind of sucks, but what do you do? Andrea Dworkin had a piece in the Guardian on Monday saying how much she deplored lesser-of-two-evils politics, but that this time, she was voting for Kerry on exactly that basis. She came across like a pretty pompous hypocrite, actually.

Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 2 November 2004 23:25 (nineteen years ago) link

Who was it that called Libertarians the "Now that we're grown up, we can eat ice cream for DINNER if we want to!" party? That's pretty genius.

Badnarik is a joke. Look over his website, please. If the impassioned endorsement from Doug "Host of 'The Man Show'" Stanhope on page 1 doesn't convince you that Badnarik is a true champ, a quick scan through his absolutely idiotic takes on gun control and law enforcement should do the trick.

And as for this:
"Come on, folks, you're smarter than this"...

Roger, you've talked about your love for Ann Coulter on this board. Give me a fucking break.

Clusterfuck at the Baja Fresh Salsa Bar (Ben Boyer), Tuesday, 2 November 2004 23:26 (nineteen years ago) link

Hey, I liked that post, Ned.

Kevin Gilchrist (Mr Fusion), Tuesday, 2 November 2004 23:29 (nineteen years ago) link

You realize that that photo of him 'hunting,' itself an obvious ploy to 'appeal' to sportsmen, was taken with him holding a gun that the assault weapons ban would essentially make unavailable to anyone?

really? they're going after two-barrel shotguns with the assault weapons ban? or was he using a full-auto AR15? or are you full of crap?

el sabor de gene (yournullfame), Tuesday, 2 November 2004 23:39 (nineteen years ago) link

Did Roger just say up there that he's marrying his grandmother?

Pleasant Plains (Pleasant Plains), Tuesday, 2 November 2004 23:52 (nineteen years ago) link

enjoy your tax hike, Mr Rogers

I don't make 200K or own a cardigan. Am I a pansy-ass liberal? I am whatever you say I am.

gabbneb (gabbneb), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 00:08 (nineteen years ago) link

chuck schumer just won the NY senate. glad i left that awful place

Roger Fidelity (Roger Fidelity), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 02:06 (nineteen years ago) link

$104 million went into 'advertising' in Ohio for this fiasco

Roger Fidelity (Roger Fidelity), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 02:14 (nineteen years ago) link

I'm sure everyone of all political persuasion agrees too much is spent on this.

Kevin Gilchrist (Mr Fusion), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 02:16 (nineteen years ago) link

otm

Roger Fidelity (Roger Fidelity), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 02:34 (nineteen years ago) link

http://www.economist.com/images/20041030/20041030issuecov.jpg

mookieproof (mookieproof), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 02:51 (nineteen years ago) link

yeah--not the incompetent, please

mookieproof (mookieproof), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 02:52 (nineteen years ago) link

Swisher Sweets. Mmmmmmmmm...

Roger Fidelity (Roger Fidelity), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 03:08 (nineteen years ago) link

Clearly Roger voted 80 million times.

Core of Sphagnum (Autumn Almanac), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 03:18 (nineteen years ago) link

You mena Badnarik is winning?

you bitter bastard. This is your precious democracy in action. Lap it up, brother!

There's a part of me that LOVES chaos. Being on a sinking ship excites me in a perverse way. That's why I'm laughing so hard - not at any of you, per se - but at this entire catastrophic situation.

I mean, really, personal opinions aside - what a disaster!

Roger Fidelity (Roger Fidelity), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 03:33 (nineteen years ago) link

Git.

Core of Sphagnum (Autumn Almanac), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 03:34 (nineteen years ago) link

I'd argue further but CLEARLY WE'LL ALL BE DEAD SOON.

Core of Sphagnum (Autumn Almanac), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 03:35 (nineteen years ago) link

Holy christ Jenna Bush is SO superhot

Roger Fidelity (Roger Fidelity), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 03:38 (nineteen years ago) link


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