"Starship Troopers" - Verhoeven is a mad genius!

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that thread above didn't have an exchange i remembered. this was from a thread on 28 days later:

things i like in starship trooper: it is based on the premise that the entire human race = utterly dim but underwear-model gorgeous gay men, some of them by chance in girl's bodies
-- mark s (mar...), November 4th, 2002 7:34 AM.

Yes but Mark, it is set in the FUTURE. Surely this is what we will evolve to?
-- N. (nickdastoo...), November 4th, 2002 7:35 AM.

i am evolving into the brainbug
-- mark s (mar...), November 4th, 2002 7:46 AM

― g--ff (gcannon), Sunday, 30 May 2004 00:04 (nineteen years ago) link

The book isn't really fascist as much as it is civic propaganda.

― VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Sunday, 30 May 2004 01:49 (nineteen years ago) link

it's very much a cold war novel.

― amateur!st (amateurist), Sunday, 30 May 2004 01:51 (nineteen years ago) link

my dad told me once that when he was in officer candidate school (i believe that's when it was, it might've been earlier) he was assigned to read it in one of his courses. he skipped reading it though.

when the movie came out he thought it was very accurate in it's portrayal of how life in the military was and how it portrayed the military mindest. he also perfectly understood what the film was satirizing as well.

― latebloomer (latebloomer), Sunday, 30 May 2004 02:57 (nineteen years ago) link

there's also a whole teen-movie thing going on in ST that i really love, with the football game and the big dance and the will-they-or-won't-they with van dien & whatsherface

Which led to my two word review: Aliens 90210

― Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Sunday, 30 May 2004 04:59 (nineteen years ago) link

"Ultimately, I think the film implies that the bugs weren't responsible for the Buenos Aires attack at all, and that we just needed an enemy to rally against. "

Look closer. The film suggests the bugs DID do it, but only as a defensive move against the humans invading their space. The implication being that the humans are the true evil imperialistic force in the universe.

― latebloomer (latebloomer), Sunday, 30 May 2004 06:57 (nineteen years ago) link

right, they have a "liberal" guest on one of the talk shows excerpted in the movie who says that if we just left the bugs alone to their planet.... i believe she is shouted down by some rush limbaugh-esque character.

― amateur!st (amateurist), Sunday, 30 May 2004 07:25 (nineteen years ago) link

I love "Starship Troopers" for all the reasons stated above.

I here it did far better on this side of the Atlantic where it touched nerves with people and stuff, while in America it was seen as film about people being eaten by bugs.

― DV (dirtyvicar), Sunday, 30 May 2004 08:50 (nineteen years ago) link

"THIS PLACE CRAWLS!"

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Sunday, 30 May 2004 16:25 (nineteen years ago) link

"It's afraid. It's afraid!"

― Gear! (Gear!), Sunday, 30 May 2004 16:50 (nineteen years ago) link

Which led to my two word review: Aliens 90210

that's like a description of my perfect movie

― s1ocki (slutsky), Sunday, 30 May 2004 17:00 (nineteen years ago) link

"THEY SUCKED HIS BRAINS OUT!"

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Monday, 31 May 2004 05:56 (nineteen years ago) link

I find it AMAZING that so few of you have read Heinlein's book. The movie is an accurate over-the-top take on some subtle plot twist.

― Speedy (Speedy Gonzalas), Monday, 31 May 2004 23:43 (nineteen years ago) link

i HAVE read Heninlein's book and aside with my own problemms with him, I found Verhoeven's version to be a bad film.

actually amateurist, i would be interested in hearing why you think his films are well made, i find that (based on other films you like) to be a bit surprising.

― H (Heruy), Monday, 31 May 2004 23:54 (nineteen years ago) link

Now if Ender's Game could ever be filmed...

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 00:02 (nineteen years ago) link

with jake lloyd!!

― s1ocki (slutsky), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 00:03 (nineteen years ago) link

who's jake lloyd?

― H (Heruy), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 00:04 (nineteen years ago) link

Five years was a long, long time ago.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 00:08 (nineteen years ago) link

four months pass...

HELP REQUESTED RE: STARSHIP TROOPERS:
So I checked out the DVD for Starship Troopers this weekend, and was enjoying the madcap satire and gore and so on, and got to the big climactic scene at the end, and the DVD started fucking up and skipped the last 10 minutes of the movie, jumping right to the ending credits. So I need to know how Starship Troopers ends. The last scene I saw was when Denise Richards and the other pilot dude get captured by the bugs and the pilot dude gets his brain sucked out by the brain bug. Then it skipped to the brain bug being pulled out of the cave by the troopers, apparently killed by some random trooper who hadn't been in the movie until then. So what happened in between?

― n/a (Nick A.), Monday, 18 October 2004 13:38 (nineteen years ago) link

You missed the Denise Richards stripping scene.

― Dan Perry '08 (Dan Perry), Monday, 18 October 2004 13:46 (nineteen years ago) link

And when she sucks the brain out of the bug.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 18 October 2004 13:46 (nineteen years ago) link

(seriously, I don't remember)

― Dan Perry '08 (Dan Perry), Monday, 18 October 2004 13:48 (nineteen years ago) link

Then it skipped to the brain bug being pulled out of the cave by the troopers, apparently killed by some random trooper who hadn't been in the movie until then. So what happened in between?

If I remember correctly, the brain bug was killed by a random trooper who hadn't been in the movie until then.

― Tuomas (Tuomas), Monday, 18 October 2004 13:48 (nineteen years ago) link

Exactly the same thing happened with the Starship Troopers DVD I borrowed from Lukey. Weird.

― Wooden (Wooden), Monday, 18 October 2004 13:48 (nineteen years ago) link

Omigod CENSORHIP!!! They don't want you to see the strip scene!!

― Tuomas (Tuomas), Monday, 18 October 2004 13:49 (nineteen years ago) link

Charlie Sheen is travelling across the globe with a penknife, keeping his wife's bosum safe from the prying eyes of men.

― Dan Perry '08 (Dan Perry), Monday, 18 October 2004 13:51 (nineteen years ago) link

He should use the penknife elsewhere.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 18 October 2004 13:51 (nineteen years ago) link

bosum

I'm sorry, that's spelled bazoom.

― manthony m1cc1o (Anthony Miccio), Monday, 18 October 2004 13:53 (nineteen years ago) link

and it's actually plural.

― manthony m1cc1o (Anthony Miccio), Monday, 18 October 2004 13:53 (nineteen years ago) link

I'm not so certain; didn't you see "Tomorrow Never Dies"?

― Dan Perry '08 (Dan Perry), Monday, 18 October 2004 13:55 (nineteen years ago) link

So no one knows how ST ends?

― n/a (Nick A.), Monday, 18 October 2004 14:16 (nineteen years ago) link

Neil Patrick Harris lezzed it up with a giant bug.

― Leon Czolgosz (Nicole), Monday, 18 October 2004 14:18 (nineteen years ago) link

He was a ghost all along.

― Wooden (Wooden), Monday, 18 October 2004 14:19 (nineteen years ago) link

Rosebud was his spaceship

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 18 October 2004 14:20 (nineteen years ago) link

Keyser Soze was an alien.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 18 October 2004 14:20 (nineteen years ago) link

The Brain Bug is not dead it's been captured alive.

It's been captured/found by Ricos former drill instructor from boot camp who we found out asked for a demotion to private so he could fight in the war.

Then they lez up.

― Jarlr'mai (jarlrmai), Monday, 18 October 2004 14:24 (nineteen years ago) link

The best part of this is that Neil Patrick Harris does in fact lez up with a giant bug and that particular scene has erased the rest of the movie's ending from my brain.

― Dan Perry '08 (Dan Perry), Monday, 18 October 2004 14:25 (nineteen years ago) link

"Would You Like To Know More?"

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Monday, 18 October 2004 15:36 (nineteen years ago) link

So how does Rico save Denise Richards?

― n/a (Nick A.), Monday, 18 October 2004 15:48 (nineteen years ago) link

Starship Troopers is good but it's really nothing more than ID4 for people who like their subtext in 40-point Arial Black

If Bruckheimer was the guy who made the T-shirts that say "PORN STAR" then Verhoeven would be the guy who came along and designed one that said "SUCKS DICK FOR BLOW" *applause*

But don't get me wrong I like Starship Troopers a lot

I just like Johnny Mnemonic a lot better

― TOMBOT, Monday, 18 October 2004 16:03 (nineteen years ago) link

Even *I* have trouble dealing with that one - and Robert Longo is one of my favorite ever artists.

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Monday, 18 October 2004 16:15 (nineteen years ago) link

you gotta see the ending sequence if only to see doogie howser in full SS glory

― still bevens (bscrubbins), Monday, 18 October 2004 19:20 (nineteen years ago) link

Psychic SS Doogie directs Rico to find crashed Denise, who's pilot boyfriend has had his brain sucked out by the brain bug, they escape because the meathead marine stays behind with a nuke.

― Jarlr'mai (jarlrmai), Monday, 18 October 2004 20:24 (nineteen years ago) link

SS Doogie then does a mind meld with the brainbug. I am not making this up.

"IT'S AFRAID."

― Sir Kingfish Beavis D'Azzmonch (Kingfish), Monday, 18 October 2004 20:35 (nineteen years ago) link

Hmm. It seems like I missed a lot of good stuff. The video store will pay for this.

― n/a (Nick A.), Monday, 18 October 2004 20:46 (nineteen years ago) link

The sergeant who got busted down so he could fight saves the day! I do like Starship Troopers, it's funny.

― Matt (Matt), Monday, 18 October 2004 21:50 (nineteen years ago) link

Harold and Kumar should have worked in an SS Doogie gag.

― milozauckerman (miloaukerman), Monday, 18 October 2004 22:03 (nineteen years ago) link

one year passes...

my question is, what horrific brainbuggy thought does doogie sense at the end - the one he can't bring himself to share with the triumphant and expectant troops around him?

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Monday, 28 November 2005 05:35 (eighteen years ago) link

he says "he's... afraid!"

― s1ocki (slutsky), Monday, 28 November 2005 05:39 (eighteen years ago) link

yeah, i thought that was the whole thing. the troops rejoice that the bug is afraid. the delivery is great: "He's... afraid!" And then this big cheer from the crowd. It's like the ultimate fascist sentiment.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Monday, 28 November 2005 05:51 (eighteen years ago) link

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