Why is casual racism/sexism more accepted in video games than other forms of media (these days)?

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ethics in tie colours iirc

don't ask me why i posted this (electricsound), Saturday, 20 December 2014 00:21 (nine years ago) link

heh.

how's life, Saturday, 20 December 2014 00:22 (nine years ago) link

Lol

hyggeligt, Saturday, 20 December 2014 17:53 (nine years ago) link

this thing just keeps rolling along

the lawyer/pua dude debated chris kluwe on the internet. no way in hell i'm watching it, but my sense is kluwe won because the man himself said he lost on purpose. strategy. http://www.reddit.com/r/KotakuInAction/comments/2qri1j/kluwe_vs_cernovitch_is_live/cn90zsy

and i guess the disabled guy who run the 8c website just posted an article at a nazi website about how eugenics is good. but i'm not going to go look for that.

that's what's up right now with this movement.

goole, Tuesday, 30 December 2014 20:30 (nine years ago) link

I think a pro-eugenics disabled dude sums up GamerGate better than any explanation I could possibly come up with.

the farakhan of gg (DJP), Wednesday, 31 December 2014 01:08 (nine years ago) link

So, this happened:

http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2015/01/prank_call_sends_several_polic.html

About 5 miles S/SW of where I live in Portland. 8chan sent cops to a woman's address to strike back at her.

But guess what:

http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2015/01/gamergate_woman_says_online_ha.htm

turns out the woman was a transgender former participant in gamergate who turned when Milo Y started posting on how much t/g squicked him out, too. She had moved to California and 8channers used her old Oregon address.

Delbert Gravy (kingfish), Sunday, 4 January 2015 21:19 (nine years ago) link

Hadn't seen this, love it
http://i.imgur.com/AUYbS65.png

Nhex, Monday, 5 January 2015 23:45 (nine years ago) link

Oh, that's rich.

how's life, Monday, 5 January 2015 23:54 (nine years ago) link

"They won't buy these crappy magazine you put out and allow that kind of....shmup....smug....shmub....shmug....i don't know what i'm saying"

Wu-Tang Clannad (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 6 January 2015 15:46 (nine years ago) link

pretty promising youtube still, there

Doctor Casino, Tuesday, 6 January 2015 15:46 (nine years ago) link

"mr matt huger... hugerlonson, what are u?"

Rallsballs@onelist.com (stevie), Tuesday, 6 January 2015 15:56 (nine years ago) link

i mean the long and short of this is, untreated mental illness. but thusly, the irony of this turd accusing anita sarkeesian of being "a nutcase" when he seems a dangerous amount off his meds...

Rallsballs@onelist.com (stevie), Tuesday, 6 January 2015 15:57 (nine years ago) link

"mr matt huger... hugerlonson, what are u?"

― Rallsba✧✧✧@onel✧✧✧.c✧✧ (stevie), Tuesday, January 6, 2015 9:56 AM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i love this so much

Wu-Tang Clannad (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 6 January 2015 16:01 (nine years ago) link

Yeah, I'm thinking untreated mental illness. This is paranoid even by Gamergate standards: "Keep in mind I am a male indie game developer, she would have me kicked out of the industry if she could because I am male, but also thrown away in a prison, all because I am not pushing her idealism or supporting her."

jmm, Tuesday, 6 January 2015 16:08 (nine years ago) link

When I searched game informer's website for "sarseekian", I got no results. Did they take it down? Or was it only in the print edition?

how's life, Tuesday, 6 January 2015 16:16 (nine years ago) link

print and digital edition

Wu-Tang Clannad (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 6 January 2015 16:41 (nine years ago) link

Er also that's not her name, but maybe you know that.

JimD, Tuesday, 6 January 2015 17:13 (nine years ago) link

anita soulseekian

emil.y, Tuesday, 6 January 2015 17:13 (nine years ago) link

No. ☃

valleys of your mind (mh), Tuesday, 6 January 2015 17:16 (nine years ago) link

Oh, holy crap. Whoops!

how's life, Tuesday, 6 January 2015 17:18 (nine years ago) link

he is as good a commenter as speaker if u were wondering

goole, Tuesday, 6 January 2015 17:20 (nine years ago) link

Their site is irrellevent as I am talking about their magazine articles kid, and their website has more contributors that they take less care into what is and what isn't published as appose to the magazine where they limit the content down to defending her only and pushing her censor ship on to the consumers.

goole, Tuesday, 6 January 2015 17:20 (nine years ago) link

SEXIST PROPERGANDER

shmup....smug....shmub....shmug.... (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 6 January 2015 17:39 (nine years ago) link

that guy made a game called Bus Driver 2d Experience Rush

wwhy shrek is piss (am0n), Tuesday, 6 January 2015 18:19 (nine years ago) link

https://www.scirra.com/store/games/bus-driver-2d-experience-rush-278

Customer Support
undeadbobop at aim.com

wwhy shrek is piss (am0n), Tuesday, 6 January 2015 18:20 (nine years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JhJU6BkVmMo

wwhy shrek is piss (am0n), Tuesday, 6 January 2015 18:21 (nine years ago) link

that is too good to be true

shmup....smug....shmub....shmug.... (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 6 January 2015 18:46 (nine years ago) link

the sounds. the sounds.

goole, Tuesday, 6 January 2015 18:50 (nine years ago) link

In October, though, Intel unwittingly became a villain in a controversy over the treatment of women in gaming, which has come to be known as GamerGate. A loose-knit brigade of Internet users lobbied the company to pull an advertising campaign on the game website Gamasutra because it had run an essay attacking the male dominance of games culture.

Intel, which was caught off guard by the ensuing controversy over its actions, eventually resumed advertising on the site. Mr. Krzanich said he used the incident as an opportunity to think more deeply about the broader issue of diversity in the tech industry. The issue resonated with him personally.

“I have two daughters of my own coming up on college age,” he said. “I want them to have a world that’s got equal opportunity for them.”

As part of its new investment fund, Intel plans to establish and support a professional women’s gaming team. It has partnered with the International Game Developers Association, a nonprofit that will send 20 female college students to a game developer conference with Intel’s support. The association wants to double the number of women working in the games industry over the next decade, according to Kate Edwards, its executive director.

bizarro gazzara, Wednesday, 7 January 2015 07:15 (nine years ago) link

Intel has budgeted $300m to increase diversity in the tech sector, at least partially in response to gg. http://www.nytimes.com/2015/01/07/technology/intel-budgets-300-million-for-diversity.html?_r=0

bizarro gazzara, Wednesday, 7 January 2015 07:17 (nine years ago) link

Intel plans to engage with several partners in the industry to support, enhance or create new programs for this initiative, including the International Game Developers Association*, the E-Sports League*, the National Center for Women in Technology*, the CyberSmile Foundation*, the Feminist Frequency*

lol

bizarro gazzara, Wednesday, 7 January 2015 07:20 (nine years ago) link

lol nice backfire result gg

I checked Snoops , and it is for real (Trayce), Wednesday, 7 January 2015 08:46 (nine years ago) link

ff v gg fight!

Ratt in Mi Kitchen (Neil S), Wednesday, 7 January 2015 08:56 (nine years ago) link

I am sure they will spin this into a win somehow

valleys of your mind (mh), Wednesday, 7 January 2015 15:34 (nine years ago) link

I dig Intel's announcement, but knowing their history, I wonder how much somebody there will try to use this to boost their efforts lobbying for increased H1-B visas so they can hire foreign workers at far cheaper wages.

Delbert Gravy (kingfish), Wednesday, 7 January 2015 18:33 (nine years ago) link

lol yeah

valleys of your mind (mh), Wednesday, 7 January 2015 18:58 (nine years ago) link

I keep hearing there isn't so much gender divide in Indian CS classes, so...

(also whenever people are all "women not doing comp sci is a cultural thing only affecting the US" I think "huh maybe I imagined it because of reading too many US websites" and then I remember that there were three women in my year (UK, graduating at the bottom of the dotcom crash), and I don't think I even met one of the other two)

club mate martyr (a passing spacecadet), Wednesday, 7 January 2015 21:00 (nine years ago) link

yeah whenever people claim that, look around and count heads and then draw your own conclusions

valleys of your mind (mh), Wednesday, 7 January 2015 21:45 (nine years ago) link

Prior to 2014, the gender divide of people I've directly worked with who were from India was very close to 50/50 (7 men, 6 women). In 2014, we started working with a team in Bangalore that is made up of 7 men, plus of our new hires the split was something like 1 woman, 6 men (there was a second woman who is a recent hire who is Chinese).

It's very odd; I feel like the genderwise we hired a ton of women in 2000-2009 and in the past five years across nationalities it's been primarily men.

the farakhan of gg (DJP), Wednesday, 7 January 2015 21:53 (nine years ago) link

xp Well I mean UK/US are obv p culturally similar so I'm def not saying it's not an uh only-Western-anglophone problem or w/e, and I'm totally happy to believe my Indian coworkers (among other sources) that it's not so bad there

but it's definitely wider than just the US, at any rate

club mate martyr (a passing spacecadet), Wednesday, 7 January 2015 22:02 (nine years ago) link

Someone once told me that the US had gone from over 30% of computer science graduates being women to under 15% over the course of thirty years and India had gone from under 15% to over 30% in fifteen years but idk how accurate that is.

I seem to recall that Iran is one of the countries with the closest gender parity in CS grads Not sure why.

Wristy Hurlington (ShariVari), Wednesday, 7 January 2015 22:06 (nine years ago) link

http://nces.ed.gov/programs/digest/d12/tables/dt12_349.asp

here's the US for you, although CS degrees obviously do not directly correspond to people working in tech

valleys of your mind (mh), Wednesday, 7 January 2015 22:11 (nine years ago) link

http://i.imgur.com/z5Jl6pi.jpg

bizarro gazzara, Friday, 9 January 2015 22:09 (nine years ago) link

Eurgh/lol

The Understated Twee Hotel On A Mountain (silby), Friday, 9 January 2015 22:15 (nine years ago) link

ask a booty bay attacker

bizarro gazzara, Friday, 9 January 2015 22:21 (nine years ago) link

i've seen that sentiment so many times in this whole mess, and it's ridiculous. give me a break. gaming is easy. you sit on your ass and push buttons. the ambiguity and risk of life is reduced to nothing. states of failure and success are clearly delineated and the paths to each are obvious and easily discoverable. it's barely a hobby. games are fun, intense, hour-draining fun, and are very well designed to be so. that's the best you can say about them. but they are finite experiences. you can't do anything you're not allowed to do by the game's creators. the worst you can say is the hours you've spent should have been spent otherwise, doing something creative or useful or self-bettering. the best approximation of struggle they offer is, as that dim jpg implies, is the frustration of repetition. or getting your ass handed to you in mp by some kid who puts more ass-time in than you. don't even begin to talk about "bravery" in gaming, which would require some risk and sacrifice in-the-world. you are sitting on your ass pushing buttons.

goole, Friday, 9 January 2015 22:29 (nine years ago) link

frankly #gamergate has had some real effect: it's made me like gaming less

goole, Friday, 9 January 2015 22:31 (nine years ago) link

^

shmup....smug....shmub....shmug.... (forksclovetofu), Friday, 9 January 2015 22:35 (nine years ago) link

same

polyphonic, Saturday, 10 January 2015 03:07 (nine years ago) link


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