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it's not about houses vs faces - it's an issue of control. putting photos of myself on the internet is an information flow that i'm 99% in charge of - this is something i have no control whatsoever over.

and turning up in person to do creepy shit and loiter around is absolutely not the same thing as being able to study and look closely on the internet. the first will probably get you arrested, for one thing.

lex pretend, Friday, 20 March 2009 10:56 (5 years ago) Permalink

it seems so innocuous tho in terms of actual useful stuff it outputs: bcs it is updated so infrequently it doesn't really give stalkers/thiefs all that much useful information (terrorists/etc it gives more useful info perhaps). compared to something like club cards, e.g, and which seem to me much more invasive of privacy, giving tesco/etc a daily account of everything you buy and letting them target you based on that. but again with these and with facebook I'm giving my explicit consent for the info to be shared. I guess I'm giving google tacit consent by not complaining to them?

lo (cozwn), Friday, 20 March 2009 10:58 (5 years ago) Permalink

But if someone wants to take a photo of your house and put it on the internet without your consent they have been able to do so for years. At least with Google it's accountable to them and you can get it removed.

(Someone needs to try that with their house, see how long it takes)

Matt DC, Friday, 20 March 2009 11:02 (5 years ago) Permalink

I was gonna say that's still not equivalent but then I remembered that you can upload your own "streetviews" to google maps can't you?

lo (cozwn), Friday, 20 March 2009 11:04 (5 years ago) Permalink

what about people putting photos of you on the internet?

\∫Öζ/.... argh oh noes! (ken c), Friday, 20 March 2009 11:05 (5 years ago) Permalink

Actually it took about 30 seconds of Googling to find an unauthorised picture taken of my house with information about its exact location. And I assume it's been there for a while.

In attempting to argue with the Lex I've actually succeeded in weirding myself out now.

Matt DC, Friday, 20 March 2009 11:06 (5 years ago) Permalink

for stalking purposes, i'd be more worried about ilx before i worry about googlestreetview, to be honest.

\∫Öζ/.... argh oh noes! (ken c), Friday, 20 March 2009 11:06 (5 years ago) Permalink

What's really annoying about Google Streetview is that it actually restricts itself to streets so there are huge swathes of eg Hampstead Heath that you can't actually see. Including the view from the top of Parliament Hill I think.

Matt DC, Friday, 20 March 2009 11:08 (5 years ago) Permalink

i DO worry about ilx

lex pretend, Friday, 20 March 2009 11:08 (5 years ago) Permalink

It never phones, it never writes...

ledge, Friday, 20 March 2009 11:09 (5 years ago) Permalink

clubcards don't seem odd to me. i mean, you know what you're letting yourself in for, there's a specific reward, and tbh i couldn't care less about targeted marketing - it's not like i'm being forced to buy anything

lex pretend, Friday, 20 March 2009 11:09 (5 years ago) Permalink

if you saw someone outside your flat staring at and studying the building - not in a casual, walking-past way, but loitering and looking closely & carefully - would you not be creeped out and discomfited? if i saw that i'd be calling the fucking police.

I do exactly what you are describing AND then take photos AND then put them on flickr. As do quite a few weirdo creeps like me...
Modernist houses group on flickr
Post war houses in the UK group on flickr
No-one has ever called the police on any of us as far as I know. Usually people are intrigued that someone is interested in their houses.

Say what you like Professor Words (Ned Trifle II), Friday, 20 March 2009 11:10 (5 years ago) Permalink

many x-posts also there's other gaps like they can't drive down Oxford Street, and other places like in Kings Cross where they'ev just got fed up with one-way systems and miss out streets.

chord simple (j.o.n.a), Friday, 20 March 2009 11:10 (5 years ago) Permalink

wtf are those flickr groups

lex pretend, Friday, 20 March 2009 11:11 (5 years ago) Permalink

apart from anything else that's just fucking impolite

lex pretend, Friday, 20 March 2009 11:12 (5 years ago) Permalink

Yeah, because no-one has ever taken photos of houses before. What the hell are you talking about?

Say what you like Professor Words (Ned Trifle II), Friday, 20 March 2009 11:12 (5 years ago) Permalink

are the google bikes they use for narrow streets motorbikes or bicycles? if it's the latter, they should def send them through the parks.

joe, Friday, 20 March 2009 11:13 (5 years ago) Permalink

wtf are those flickr groups

More specifically they're amazing resource for anyone interested in domestic architecture of the twentieth century. Instead of having to buy really really expensive architecture books.

Say what you like Professor Words (Ned Trifle II), Friday, 20 March 2009 11:14 (5 years ago) Permalink

yeah who cares what the people living in those houses might think

lex pretend, Friday, 20 March 2009 11:15 (5 years ago) Permalink

are the google bikes they use for narrow streets motorbikes or bicycles? if it's the latter, they should def send them through the parks.

Blurred-out faces of irate (or smug, more likely) members of the Parks Constabulary in every frame.

chord simple (j.o.n.a), Friday, 20 March 2009 11:17 (5 years ago) Permalink

I have taken pictures of random people's houses and put them on the internet before (like, every fucking time I go on holiday for one thing). I think that's part and parcel of living in an architecturally striking house, you accept that people are going to stop and look at it and take photos for ages.

Matt DC, Friday, 20 March 2009 11:24 (5 years ago) Permalink

yeah who cares what the people living in those houses might think

― lex pretend, Friday, March 20, 2009 11:15 AM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark

Well I care and if someone objected I'd take down their photo but I'd also point out to them that it's pretty pointless. You seem to be arguing against a whole history of photography.

Say what you like Professor Words (Ned Trifle II), Friday, 20 March 2009 11:24 (5 years ago) Permalink

lex if you were standing in the window with your willy out then maybe you'd have a point. but there's nothing private about the outside of a house unless you build a big fucking wall around it, always been the case for obvious reasons and google streetview does nothing to change that. Also I'm really worried by the idea that people walking down the public street looking at stuff (with their eyes!) should be arrested! That's the real big brother shit, not this.

tomofthenest, Friday, 20 March 2009 11:28 (5 years ago) Permalink

By the way Alex you really shouldn't leave your rubbish piled outside like that.

Matt DC, Friday, 20 March 2009 11:29 (5 years ago) Permalink

if i could, i would definitely live in a house with a big wall around it

lex pretend, Friday, 20 March 2009 11:31 (5 years ago) Permalink

what if people take a photo of that big wall?

\∫Öζ/.... argh oh noes! (ken c), Friday, 20 March 2009 11:34 (5 years ago) Permalink

you'd have to put another big wall around that one.

tomofthenest, Friday, 20 March 2009 11:37 (5 years ago) Permalink

ledge, Friday, 20 March 2009 11:38 (5 years ago) Permalink

oh no you can still see the house ;_;

ledge, Friday, 20 March 2009 11:38 (5 years ago) Permalink

no the castle at the top is just a decoy the house is somewhere behind the wall.

\∫Öζ/.... argh oh noes! (ken c), Friday, 20 March 2009 11:44 (5 years ago) Permalink

can still see Lex's willy.

tomofthenest, Friday, 20 March 2009 11:51 (5 years ago) Permalink

Lex yesterday - waiting for those pesky googleflickr folk...
http://www.davethewave.co.uk/hector/book/hector-the-gardener-front.jpg

Say what you like Professor Words (Ned Trifle II), Friday, 20 March 2009 12:00 (5 years ago) Permalink

Say what you like Professor Words (Ned Trifle II), Friday, 20 March 2009 12:00 (5 years ago) Permalink

Hahaha Tomofthenest I got that one...

Matt DC, Friday, 20 March 2009 12:14 (5 years ago) Permalink

And there's a Travel Lodge there now! That's definitely new.

Too Into Dancing to Argue (ENBB), Friday, 20 March 2009 12:32 (5 years ago) Permalink

Nice. Looks like half of it got bombed during the war or something? That crescent is quite difficult to navigate on this.

Matt DC, Friday, 20 March 2009 12:33 (5 years ago) Permalink

Yeah, it is hard to navigate. So cool to see now though and notice little changes etc.

Too Into Dancing to Argue (ENBB), Friday, 20 March 2009 12:36 (5 years ago) Permalink

they've found wally btw - he's hidden on putney high street, outside the o2 shop.

joe, Friday, 20 March 2009 12:38 (5 years ago) Permalink

http://tinyurl.com/dyqqz6

This is the house near me that I have been raving about for ages. I want to live here.

Matt DC, Friday, 20 March 2009 12:41 (5 years ago) Permalink

Maybe there will be some uproar about local councils using this to see if people have done anything to their house fronts without planning permission or something.

Hard House SugBanton (blueski), Friday, 20 March 2009 12:42 (5 years ago) Permalink

Nice little green bit in the middle - I love the little squares/circuses in Islington.
At the bottom of Great Percy Street at the junction with Kings Cross Road there's a traffic warden(?-CPSO?) without her face blurred out!

Say what you like Professor Words (Ned Trifle II), Friday, 20 March 2009 12:44 (5 years ago) Permalink

xp to ENBB's original post about where she used to live, incidentally.

Say what you like Professor Words (Ned Trifle II), Friday, 20 March 2009 12:45 (5 years ago) Permalink

Ned, yeah I really loved living there. It was so central but so cute.

I didn't realize faces were supposed to be blurred out!

Too Into Dancing to Argue (ENBB), Friday, 20 March 2009 12:47 (5 years ago) Permalink

They have some software that is supposed to do it I think? It's a bit hit and miss though.

My old office building.

So, across the bridge from MI5 then eh?

Say what you like Professor Words (Ned Trifle II), Friday, 20 March 2009 12:48 (5 years ago) Permalink

I'm more concerned about having my telephone number and address available in a directory to thousands of people than google streetview.

Dave Gahan, lead singer of Depeche Mode (Billy Dods), Friday, 20 March 2009 12:48 (5 years ago) Permalink

x-post Yep, right across. I see the lady now!

Too Into Dancing to Argue (ENBB), Friday, 20 March 2009 12:49 (5 years ago) Permalink

you know what i'd love to see? photos of streets where i grew up, but from different eras in the past. you get some of these on the transport for london site, i guess. but its ace, to get a feel for how those areas have changed, especially the ones which are now pedestrianised shopping centre type areas, like my former ends of wimbledon.

they don't have to be 3d or nuthin.

Darramouss Darramouss will he do the fandango? (stevie), Friday, 20 March 2009 12:52 (5 years ago) Permalink


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