Year-End Critics' Polls 2014

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possibly WoD given the *shrug* and "really??" type reactions it's getting

although that could just be thinking it's overrated despite not being necessarily bad, which i'd agree with

just a couple of assholes having breakfast (slothroprhymes), Thursday, 11 December 2014 15:38 (nine years ago) link

Plenty of people here like the WoD album, I'm just not sure anyone was really behind it being so high on almost every list that would include it.

Evan, Thursday, 11 December 2014 15:41 (nine years ago) link

everyone should have omitted Lana Del Rey because that album is terrible aside from 2-3 songs, and one of the not-terrible songs is titled "Fucked My Way To The Top"

the farakhan of gg (DJP), Thursday, 11 December 2014 15:41 (nine years ago) link

^^^^^^^

Evan, Thursday, 11 December 2014 15:43 (nine years ago) link

even being charitable the LDR album was basically more of the same, i can't imagine any fence-sitters or sceptics especially caring about it

terje did lose a lot of steam, which was entirely predictable even during the hosannas in the week it came out imo - that album had no stickability at all

this whole sun kil moon/war on drugs consensus is baffling to me bc i had literally never heard of either terrible act before about a month ago. where did they come from??? can we banish everyone responsible for bringing them in?

lex pretend, Thursday, 11 December 2014 15:46 (nine years ago) link

oh shush evan you did not listen to the LDR album you are not allowed to cosign negative opinions on it

(...that said its pretty fucking uneven despite being a p big step up for her)

just a couple of assholes having breakfast (slothroprhymes), Thursday, 11 December 2014 15:48 (nine years ago) link

Sun Kil Moon is the new act of a legacy dude, I think War on Drugs have been around for a little while without any great shakes, they had some sort of beef this year (?) and now people are rating their albums highly. I dunno, I like plenty of schmindie bollocks so maybe I would like one or the other record but it just seems so very very unappealing.

emil.y, Thursday, 11 December 2014 15:54 (nine years ago) link

Yeah sometimes with these albums I have no idea whether I'd like them or not but the the overall feeling is "can't be arsed". That feeling was entirely vindicated when I heard the Sun Kil Moon album fwiw.

I can see Angel Olsen missing out on any ILX list as well, not detected much in the way of buzz around her here.

Matt DC, Thursday, 11 December 2014 16:03 (nine years ago) link

The Terje album really is a good EP's worth of material obviously left half-finished and padded out with old stuff. I'm pretty sure I read an interview where he said it was actually unfinished due to family stuff.

Matt DC, Thursday, 11 December 2014 16:05 (nine years ago) link

sun kil moon's been going over a decade iirc and he got a shiny 'best new music' badge from pitchfork about half a decade ago

nxd, Thursday, 11 December 2014 16:05 (nine years ago) link

Sun Kil Moon has been around since 2003. Though his new approach is distinct enough it's almost as if this version of Sun Kil Moon is a new act that debuted in 2012.

Evan, Thursday, 11 December 2014 16:09 (nine years ago) link

Yeah, I realised after I posted "new act" is a bit of a misnomer, was more trying to emphasise the 'elder statesman' bit. Didn't realise it was *quite* that old, though.

emil.y, Thursday, 11 December 2014 16:10 (nine years ago) link

Minor correction: Sun Kil Moon actually never got BNM until Benji.

Evan, Thursday, 11 December 2014 16:11 (nine years ago) link

i love how fact readers are in open revolt btl. the top comment kills me:

Damn Sun Kil Moon is the whitest, whiniest shit I ever heard. That's the best album of the year for what, getting over your dog's death? No fucking thanks.

prolego, Thursday, 11 December 2014 16:13 (nine years ago) link

i can't imagine any fence-sitters or sceptics especially caring about it

No, Born to Die got a pasting in most US publications (it was only #54 on Pazz & Jop) and this one, which has entirely different production, didn't. It's been in 19 EOY lists and has made the early backlash look like old news. So clearly a bunch of sceptics have come around. And Terje is in 20 lists. So I'm still surprised the Guardian skipped them both.

Would love to hear DJP's argument for the three not-terrible LDR, because it's all of a piece. I figured people would either like all of it (ie me) or none of it.

Re-Make/Re-Model, Thursday, 11 December 2014 16:13 (nine years ago) link

xp haaaahahahahahahaha

just a couple of assholes having breakfast (slothroprhymes), Thursday, 11 December 2014 16:14 (nine years ago) link

xp cheers evan, memory failed me there thought he got one for 'april' - cheers!

nxd, Thursday, 11 December 2014 16:15 (nine years ago) link

clickers at the ready, it's the FACT top 50 tracks list:
http://www.factmag.com/2014/12/11/the-50-best-tracks-of-2014/

Ottbot jr (NickB), Thursday, 11 December 2014 16:17 (nine years ago) link

they're really trying to make pc music a thing huh

prolego, Thursday, 11 December 2014 16:17 (nine years ago) link

"1 of 51"

Re-Make/Re-Model, Thursday, 11 December 2014 16:18 (nine years ago) link

xp them and gorilla vs. bear are super bout-it bout-it for PC music, idgi

like that stuff isn't all bad but i fail to see what's remarkable about it

just a couple of assholes having breakfast (slothroprhymes), Thursday, 11 December 2014 16:20 (nine years ago) link

TAYLOR SWIFT – Wildest Dreams (Recycle Culture Hyper Bubble Pop remix)

its hilarious to me that someone could think this improves on the song itself

johnny crunch, Thursday, 11 December 2014 16:21 (nine years ago) link

That's a surprisingly good top five from FACT and their number one is predictable but unfuckable-with. Mystifying Popcaan choice though considering the rest of the album.

Matt DC, Thursday, 11 December 2014 16:23 (nine years ago) link

'Slug Christ' is sort of moniker a FACT-friendly automatic name generator would come up with though.

Matt DC, Thursday, 11 December 2014 16:24 (nine years ago) link

I tried listening to War On Drugs just now; why do people keep falling for shit like this???

example (crüt), Thursday, 11 December 2014 16:28 (nine years ago) link

PC Music isn't nearly as lazy or cowardly as witch house or chillwave was but ughhhh

Whiney G. Weingarten, Thursday, 11 December 2014 16:29 (nine years ago) link

it was a very cold winter, crüt

j., Thursday, 11 December 2014 16:30 (nine years ago) link

FKA Twigs still doesn't click with me but it's exciting that such a weird album is the frontrunner in all these lists

example (crüt), Thursday, 11 December 2014 16:32 (nine years ago) link

I really liked "Slave Ambient" a couple of years ago, but I can't remember a single thing from "Lost in the dream" other than the first track reminds me of "More than this".

cpl593H, Thursday, 11 December 2014 16:34 (nine years ago) link

lex in literally never having heard standard indie-rock band shocker...

but yeah, sun kil moon is mark kozelek is red house painters who have been around since forever and ever and ever. benji is the first thing i heard by him though (before the ridiculous feud) and i do really like it (haven't heard the slag-off joke record but i can imagine it's not worth bothering with at all). he strikes me as a bit of an arsehole but the album is sweet and very touching. i love the thrumming acoustic layers and the stories he tells are really well told, especially 'micheline', 'jim wise' and 'clarissa'.

dive inside water and you will know (dog latin), Thursday, 11 December 2014 16:37 (nine years ago) link

war on drugs are dull as shit shimmery post-freakfolk, post-chillwave nonsense though.

dive inside water and you will know (dog latin), Thursday, 11 December 2014 16:38 (nine years ago) link

I really liked "Slave Ambient" a couple of years ago, but I can't remember a single thing from "Lost in the dream" other than the first track reminds me of "More than this".

OTM. I was a fan from Wagonwheel Blues, but after awhile his chorus-less songwriting style begins to grate.

kornrulez6969, Thursday, 11 December 2014 16:40 (nine years ago) link

other than the first track reminds me of "More than this".

that is a not insubstantial part of why it's being highly praised by those who are praising it

xxp

just a couple of assholes having breakfast (slothroprhymes), Thursday, 11 December 2014 16:41 (nine years ago) link

The Juan MacLean big snob goes on and still hurts me.

Van Horn Street, Thursday, 11 December 2014 16:50 (nine years ago) link

snub?

some kind of terrible IDM with guitars (sleeve), Thursday, 11 December 2014 16:58 (nine years ago) link

it's a simple design

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 11 December 2014 16:59 (nine years ago) link

Cool list in Decoder from the Experimedia guy if you like leftfield electronic stuff:
http://www.secretdecoder.net/blog/2014/12/10/jeremy-bibles-top-10-and-beyond-of-2014/

Ottbot jr (NickB), Thursday, 11 December 2014 16:59 (nine years ago) link

other than the first track reminds me of "More than this".
......why it's being highly praised by those who are praising it

Yeah, but More Than This had a chorus you could hum, instead of just random Whoooos for 8 minutes.

kornrulez6969, Thursday, 11 December 2014 17:00 (nine years ago) link

Yeah I enjoy Benji but his 2010 and earlier material is his peak by far. It's funny how some records resonate so much more when they're backstory/character driven. Like all the fun people had talking about Bon Iver's cabin and GIRLS's cult history probably propelled those record sales regardless of the music. So Sun Kil Moon gets musically lazy but confessional and all sorts of people suddenly learn he exists because the publications write about the stories of the musician and the record gets more exposure.

Evan, Thursday, 11 December 2014 17:02 (nine years ago) link

post-freakfolk, post-chillwave nonsense though

You should probably consider just taking a broom to all these convoluted tangled continuum diagrams with Animal Collective in the middle of all contemporary music dude.

Matt DC, Thursday, 11 December 2014 17:09 (nine years ago) link

that is a not insubstantial part of why it's being highly praised by those who are praising it

Most of the reviews I've read mention Springsteen, Petty and Kraftwerk but nothing is said about Avalon-era Roxy, so I had no idea that was one of the reasons for the acclaim it's getting.

cpl593H, Thursday, 11 December 2014 17:18 (nine years ago) link

Would love to hear DJP's argument for the three not-terrible LDR, because it's all of a piece. I figured people would either like all of it (ie me) or none of it.

A cogent requirement would require me to listen to it again, which I respectfully decline to do, but most of my objections are due to the way she uses her voice and the wildly inconsistent results it gives. When she lifts her soft palette and spins the tone in her mid- to upper register, she actually sounds great and it's shocking to hear, particularly when compared the pressed, flat adenoidal honking she does most of the time.

the farakhan of gg (DJP), Thursday, 11 December 2014 17:32 (nine years ago) link

I participated in this: http://www.spin.com/articles/40-best-country-songs-2014/

― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, December 11, 2014 8:39 AM (4 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i checked out the top ten in this list. i guess i just do not get modern country. at all. i can tear up when hearing classic country, just a pull of the pedal steel on a buck owens record gives me goosebumps, i count a lot of older country among my favorite music ever, what am i missing here? it all just sounds like complete garbage to me. i don't want to sound dismissive even though saying it's all "complete garbage" is basically dismissive, but i am also somewhat genuinely curious as to what people here dig about it.

marcos, Thursday, 11 December 2014 17:43 (nine years ago) link

rock music shit the bed and this is all that's left

Whiney G. Weingarten, Thursday, 11 December 2014 17:46 (nine years ago) link

Modern country = generic 80s non-metal rock

Imagine it all as an ongoing love letter to John Fogerty and The Outfield

the farakhan of gg (DJP), Thursday, 11 December 2014 17:46 (nine years ago) link

Modern country = rock

Modern rock = simpering whiteboy crybaby garbage from imagine dragons down to war on drugs

Whiney G. Weingarten, Thursday, 11 December 2014 17:49 (nine years ago) link

which is why I listen to Savages

the farakhan of gg (DJP), Thursday, 11 December 2014 17:50 (nine years ago) link

u are both OTM and this modern indie crap is such an embarrassment to all concerned, I would honestly rather listen to some arena-rock "country" on steroids than another whiny white dude with a guitar

some kind of terrible IDM with guitars (sleeve), Thursday, 11 December 2014 17:52 (nine years ago) link

modern country doesnt have any whiny white dudes?

VOTE in metal poll. Voting ends TOMORROW (Cosmic Slop), Thursday, 11 December 2014 17:54 (nine years ago) link

Modern country is just pop/rock music that plays it safer and simpler than anything else.

Evan, Thursday, 11 December 2014 17:54 (nine years ago) link


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