Hammer definitely influential, 'Nilla Ice strikes me as a Frampton - the corny, thin-of-content end of the road for one strain quickly blasted out of the water after making their quick mint
― da croupier, Tuesday, 9 December 2014 04:11 (nine years ago) link
Like yeah Nilla was big but on a continuum he didn't add to.
― da croupier, Tuesday, 9 December 2014 04:14 (nine years ago) link
there must be a weird tiny generation gap here. it seems to me that anybody who liked Ice Ice Baby already liked Parents Just Don't Understand a year before that.
― wk, Tuesday, 9 December 2014 04:18 (nine years ago) link
Hammer at the very least was a big influence on arena rap flash in the late 90s, particularly "shiny suit man" p diddy
― da croupier, Tuesday, 9 December 2014 04:20 (nine years ago) link
Has Bat Out of Hell been particularly influential? It combined a bunch of things that were big but in my current exhausted state, I can't think of many big names since then that have attempted a similar combination.
― EveningStar (Sund4r), Tuesday, 9 December 2014 04:23 (nine years ago) link
Jim steinman's definitely been influential.
― da croupier, Tuesday, 9 December 2014 04:24 (nine years ago) link
I was like eight or nine in the heyday of Icemania and really don't recall knowing any other rappers by name, before him and Hammer. That doesn't really indicate anything at all, but I sort of wonder whether it would be verifiable that any labels signed any acts because of Vanilla Ice. Even if it were... that's really just another measure of popularity, and the thread question separates popularity from "influence."
I don't know if anybody ever actually tried to sound like Vanilla Ice, except schoolkids in the first month or so of his success. Other people probably ended up sounding like him just because they were influenced by the same things he was. I was about to reach for Kid Rock on Grits Sandwiches For Breakfast, but listening to the first half of "Yo Da Lin In The Valley" convinced me that he was probably going for Paul's Boutique if anything.
― Doctor Casino, Tuesday, 9 December 2014 04:30 (nine years ago) link
But we're talking about albums, not artists. Unless you mean that his influence became possible because of the huge success of the Meat Loaf album?
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― EveningStar (Sund4r), Tuesday, 9 December 2014 04:31 (nine years ago) link
I guess I was assuming that we were talking about "influence" in the sense of "a later artist emulated musical ideas from the earlier artist in a way that is evident when listening". The term is vague and potentially broad, though.
― EveningStar (Sund4r), Tuesday, 9 December 2014 04:33 (nine years ago) link
Ha, I am apparently on just the right side of the generation gap since "Parents Just Don't Understand" was big in my Grade 5 class. Vanilla Ice still seemed impossibly, depressingly huge in Grade 7, though. Not really saying anything about influence rn.
― EveningStar (Sund4r), Tuesday, 9 December 2014 04:36 (nine years ago) link
http://images.gibson.com/Lifestyle/Spanish/use_your_illusion_1_2_800.jpg
― cock chirea, Tuesday, 9 December 2014 04:53 (nine years ago) link
ha, a lot of "New Jerseys" might well apply here actually
― Doctor Casino, Tuesday, 9 December 2014 05:29 (nine years ago) link
yeah forgot this was albums, not artists, in which case "new jerseys" would definitely be a circle inside of the bigger circle of "big albums few bothered to imitate"
― da croupier, Tuesday, 9 December 2014 06:58 (nine years ago) link
but yeah re: bat out of hell, it's already a burlesque of bruce springsteen so it's definitely hard to point out its "influence" separate of bruce's, but the album did inspire a bunch of folk to make epic pop-drama with steinman
― da croupier, Tuesday, 9 December 2014 07:04 (nine years ago) link
How about this one?
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/8/86/Crash_Test_Dummies_-_God_Shuffled_His_Feet.jpg(Crash Test Dummies - God Shuffled His Feet)
One of the biggest-selling rock albums of the early 90s, but it was released during the grunge era, and I can't remember that anyone would've tried to imitate their sardonic, literary type of gentle pop-rock.
― Tuomas, Tuesday, 9 December 2014 08:12 (nine years ago) link
let's see where riff raff's career is at in a year before we say vanilla ice had minimal influence on hip hop
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 9 December 2014 08:25 (nine years ago) link
katy perry "teenage dream" has like the most #1 singles of any album ever but can anyone really trace out significant influence from it? has that album altered the sound/look of pop in any real way? KP's more of a cypher for things happening in pop culture than someone who really drives it.
especially if you view her as the shiniest and most expensive car off the dr. luke assembly line you wouldn't even pin, like, kesha or idk becky g or whoever on her.
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 9 December 2014 08:33 (nine years ago) link
maybe the most charitable influence i'd give teenage dream is that it might've kickstarted rappers getting thrown on pure sugary pop tracks... could you trace "dark horse" and "talk dirty" back to "california gurls" and "ET"?
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 9 December 2014 08:35 (nine years ago) link
I think its a little too soon to stick a fork in albums from this decade, esp ones that share a producer and bit of vibe with the current number one single in America.
― da croupier, Tuesday, 9 December 2014 08:47 (nine years ago) link
i think 'prism' and its visuals might prove to be more influential (total mainstreaming of tumblr culture) but yeah we'll have to see
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 9 December 2014 08:58 (nine years ago) link
I hear the influence of "teenage dream" on carly rae jepsen's album and on taylor's "style" - thumping four by four tracks where the percussive vocal lines provide the rhythmic counterpoint.
― Tim F, Tuesday, 9 December 2014 09:13 (nine years ago) link
yeah Taylor Swift's definitely been influenced by it.
― piscesx, Tuesday, 9 December 2014 13:26 (nine years ago) link
The Fine Young Cannibals-The Raw and the Cooked was a really big record for a year or so. You never hear anything about them now.
― kornrulez6969, Thursday, 11 December 2014 18:35 (nine years ago) link
that's funny because a lot of these mumbly new singers remind me of FYC
― ancient texts, things that can't be pre-dated (President Keyes), Thursday, 11 December 2014 18:40 (nine years ago) link
that Future Islands song everyone loved had a vaguely Fine Young quality to it
― Brio2, Thursday, 11 December 2014 18:49 (nine years ago) link
man, the ghost of shania is everywhere on the radio. a huge influence.
― scott seward, Thursday, 11 December 2014 19:06 (nine years ago) link