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I love the sax in 1975. That sealed it for me, listening to "Heart Out", then hearing the sax coming in and what were they thinking, these guys have totally lost it, they're not ordinary at all.

cpl593H, Saturday, 6 December 2014 10:52 (nine years ago) link

xxport all the media reports are suggesting they're heading in that direction. Also she dated John Mayer so all bets are off really.

It def. makes sense to me that stuff like "Haunt // Bed" and "fallingforyou" were written after the majority of the album.

Tim F, Saturday, 6 December 2014 12:09 (nine years ago) link

Hey guys getting into this late obv, big fan here, etc

deej loaf (D-40), Saturday, 6 December 2014 16:56 (nine years ago) link

yessssssss

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Saturday, 6 December 2014 17:03 (nine years ago) link

I stupidly bought the version on Amazon that's like 16mp3s do I just by the other songs track by track or

deej loaf (D-40), Saturday, 6 December 2014 17:25 (nine years ago) link

Deeeeeej yesssss

no but seriously im not a dick like that (Spottie), Saturday, 6 December 2014 17:27 (nine years ago) link

the deluxe version with all the eps is $18 itself. don't know which is cheaper

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Saturday, 6 December 2014 17:51 (nine years ago) link

Also: who's written some good shit about this?

deej loaf (D-40), Saturday, 6 December 2014 18:00 (nine years ago) link

ithappens has written some great stuff about them for the guardian http://www.theguardian.com/music/2013/oct/31/1975-matt-healy-success-is-brittle

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Saturday, 6 December 2014 18:20 (nine years ago) link

Fantastic piece from Brad

http://www.drownedinsound.com/in_depth/4147286-memory-as-sound--haim-the-1975-and-the-electricity-of-influence

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prolego, Saturday, 6 December 2014 18:32 (nine years ago) link

wtf deej, get and read everything now

More specifically:

1. You really need every single EP track.

2. Brad's piece on 1975/Haim was one of my favourites of last year.

3. This is the first time I've read ithappens' interview though and it's great.

Tim F, Saturday, 6 December 2014 21:09 (nine years ago) link

matt and taylor are totally a type imo -- i mean... john mayer, harry styles etc

also she's seen them twice on this tour and he's a total rock star on stage

J0rdan S., Saturday, 6 December 2014 21:17 (nine years ago) link

rooting for them to get together so that it might help 1975 really breakout in the US next album

J0rdan S., Saturday, 6 December 2014 21:18 (nine years ago) link

Nah cos then it'll cost too much to see them

no but seriously im not a dick like that (Spottie), Saturday, 6 December 2014 21:20 (nine years ago) link

i paid $60!

J0rdan S., Saturday, 6 December 2014 21:22 (nine years ago) link

Was discussing this with murgatroid and brad on Facebook: the main problem with them getting together is that he'd be an even better songwriting/production foil for her than fun. dude, which may be foreclosed by a six month forever // down in flames relationship.

Mind you given Matt is almost as details-focused as Taylor it could make for interesting she said / he said comparisons on their respective next albums.

Tim F, Saturday, 6 December 2014 21:45 (nine years ago) link

I paid close
To that too but don't want it to double!

no but seriously im not a dick like that (Spottie), Saturday, 6 December 2014 21:53 (nine years ago) link

xpost It's kind of amazing and perfect that the two artists about whom I feel most fanficcy are on the verge of hooking up though.

Tim F, Saturday, 6 December 2014 21:57 (nine years ago) link

imagine the DUETS you guys

we need to make this happen

difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 7 December 2014 00:09 (nine years ago) link

i'm here for it just to see lex's reaction

prolego, Sunday, 7 December 2014 00:13 (nine years ago) link

well lex accepted taylor + jack antonoff so anything is possible when she's involved

J0rdan S., Sunday, 7 December 2014 00:15 (nine years ago) link

i think if we tell him it's either Matt or Russell Brand, he'll be amenable

difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 7 December 2014 00:23 (nine years ago) link

idk if i want anybody to date anybody who drinks a bottle of champagne on stage

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Sunday, 7 December 2014 00:31 (nine years ago) link

yr so picky

difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 7 December 2014 00:35 (nine years ago) link

true, i'm just mystified how he can still play guitar later in the set

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Sunday, 7 December 2014 01:43 (nine years ago) link

Feel like deej getting into this band is the final missing piece of the puzzle in terms of an ilx hivemind compact.

Tim F, Sunday, 7 December 2014 02:38 (nine years ago) link

otm

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Sunday, 7 December 2014 02:39 (nine years ago) link

i listen to the album + brad's playlist of the other tracks pretty much constantly

i told a music industry friend how into this band i was and that i thought she would like them and she was APPALLED. she's been telling all her colleagues the hilarious story of how her friend thought she would like the 1975. "real rock music" people (is this a thing? idk) really hate this band!!

out here like a flopson (tpp), Sunday, 7 December 2014 14:38 (nine years ago) link

Heard 'girls' on the radio and finally had to get the album. Pretty good stuff... first new band I've really gotten into this year.

LimbsKing, Sunday, 7 December 2014 14:49 (nine years ago) link

post that's been the reaction I've gotten too - they're dismissed as a boyband dressed up as rock.

Tim F, Sunday, 7 December 2014 19:30 (nine years ago) link

yeah and with certain people you get the combo of boy band dressed up like rock PLUS mainstream rock

J0rdan S., Sunday, 7 December 2014 19:48 (nine years ago) link

they're the skid row of their day (minus the weird homophobic flare-ups)

maura, Sunday, 7 December 2014 19:57 (nine years ago) link

They did get the award for worst band of 2013 by the NME, though that's probably a plus nowadays.

cpl593H, Monday, 8 December 2014 02:19 (nine years ago) link

I find it interesting that they seem so strongly disliked by a lot of people who, for instance, gave The Killers a free pass for so long.

Tim F, Monday, 8 December 2014 04:14 (nine years ago) link

isnt there a song where they explicitly reference the killers lol

deej loaf (D-40), Monday, 8 December 2014 13:09 (nine years ago) link

i can't think of what song you're thinking of deej unless you're referring to the "all my friends" quote that introduces "sex"

which lol/otm to mistaking that song for the killers

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Monday, 8 December 2014 17:12 (nine years ago) link

The boyband reaction is interesting because it's partly otm -- there's definite boyband dna in Healy's vocal approach (though maybe that's because "boyband" is the most recent reference point for what is essentially blue-eyed soul singing). Not that boyband should be an insult, but it's not like people who are hearing that are imagining it.

something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Monday, 8 December 2014 17:49 (nine years ago) link

i think there's a concision to the songwriting that scans as pop v much

its also produced very 'clean'

deej loaf (D-40), Monday, 8 December 2014 18:05 (nine years ago) link

i'd think boyband (or at least boyband aimed at midteen rather than tween) is a totally reasonable surmise for a casual scanner, anything else would be unusual

name that sounds industry lazy + hot singer + girlhordes + jangly jaunty 'girls' and 'chocolate' radio singles etc

the unfair dismissal is perhaps that they haven't really had credit for being a really good boyband rather than for the underappreciation of the rest of their variform oeuvre (but then without instruction i doubt that penny would have dropped for me either in fairness)

r|t|c, Monday, 8 December 2014 18:29 (nine years ago) link

personally i had a hard enough time justifying bloody paramore past guitar acquaintances last year (lol proper angry unreconstructed rockism argument like it was 2002 ✌) so the notion that a cool norm might spot the interest in this lot on their own is super absurd to me tbh

r|t|c, Monday, 8 December 2014 18:36 (nine years ago) link

the boyband thing might also be in part due to their working with / being close with one direction

katherine, Monday, 8 December 2014 18:44 (nine years ago) link

Is it possible they've gotten a lot better live the last year? I've never seen them live but their reputation in the Netherlands has been pretty much destroyed last year after some sloppy, mediocre, meh gigs, according to a unanimous press.

a pleasant little psychedelic detour in the elevator (Amory Blaine), Monday, 8 December 2014 18:58 (nine years ago) link

first time i saw them was in june 2013 opening for the neighbourhood and they were amazing then

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Monday, 8 December 2014 19:00 (nine years ago) link

There always seemed to be "something" underneath the critique of the live shows, but I wasn't able to put my finger on it. Came from several people who's live reviews I usually value highly though. Think it definitely has something to do with them not being 'cool' in rock circles though. But maybe they just had a bad gig or two, it happens.

a pleasant little psychedelic detour in the elevator (Amory Blaine), Monday, 8 December 2014 19:03 (nine years ago) link

It's all part of the same dynamic IMO: the amount of high-pitched screaming from fans at their shows is out of control. If you were gonna be on the fence otherwise that might tip you into "awful".

Tim F, Monday, 8 December 2014 20:35 (nine years ago) link

I'd be amazed if they had problems related to being sloppy live, seeing as how much is triggered/programmed. Which in itself may be a big reason why many rock fans write them off: not authentic enough to be a rock band. Which is a taxonomical mistake anyway: they're not a rock band of any atripe; they're a really smart pop group who teeter into rock on occasion, and who fool people by adopting the poses - moody, black clad, ripped clothes - of a rock band.

BTW Brad, your Haim/1975 piece made me tip off Alex in our NY office to you. Good to see you writing for us. You should get in contact with me, too.

Unsettled defender (ithappens), Monday, 8 December 2014 22:03 (nine years ago) link

Any "stripe" not "atripe".

Unsettled defender (ithappens), Monday, 8 December 2014 22:03 (nine years ago) link

I agree with the above although I think the "rock" aspects of the band are not limited to their poses and use of guitars (in both cases they're barely pushing further in this direction than OneDirection) but also encompass a lot of their more exploratory impulses - the vagueness of stuff like "anobrain" feels like it exists outside the spectrum of what pop ordinarily will allow of its exponents (exceptions to that rule, like Saint Etienne, tend to have a self-consciously conflicted r'ship with "pop").

That said you can probably dismiss the above given most people's judgments of this band will be premised on the singles rather than EP b-sides.

Tim F, Monday, 8 December 2014 22:22 (nine years ago) link

By the way, this group is another Healy touchstone, which I've not seen him mention in any interviews (but seeing as I'm very much the middle aged, father of two, overweight, ginger equivalent of Taylor Swift, he texted me out of the blue to point out).

You can certainly hear where the EP tracks come from here …

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kwcd23nURAs

Unsettled defender (ithappens), Tuesday, 9 December 2014 02:19 (nine years ago) link

nah let's pretend he said british electric foundation instead

r|t|c, Tuesday, 9 December 2014 02:59 (nine years ago) link


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