OK, is this the worst piece of music writing ever?

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the big irony of that "artists can't be saints or martyrs" piece is that this all started because pompladude wrote a faux-confessional about how his band ain't rich because they chose to tour at a loss

da croupier, Friday, 5 December 2014 22:16 (nine years ago) link

he sold HIMSELF as a martyr

da croupier, Friday, 5 December 2014 22:17 (nine years ago) link

That gawker piece is a abomination on like a million levels

http://morningafter.gawker.com/peter-pan-live-was-the-worst-three-hour-drag-show-weve-1667018164

a strawman stuffed with their collection of 12 cds (jjjusten), Saturday, 6 December 2014 03:14 (nine years ago) link

Love the idea of some music nerd sharpening his critical knives to skewer those darn musical theater types that beat him up in high school. Make sure you cram as many references to embarrassing gayness in there as you can, you shitheel.

a strawman stuffed with their collection of 12 cds (jjjusten), Saturday, 6 December 2014 03:18 (nine years ago) link

they also like to pay lip service to moral stances so they can assuage their consciences

I almost wish they wouldn't. When the two modes collide and you get sanctimonious gossip it's the worst.

Re-Make/Re-Model, Saturday, 6 December 2014 11:41 (nine years ago) link

oh god i so did not miss this style of music writing. we have to go back

http://ratter.com/your-2015-coachella-friday-headliner-is-fucking-drake-1671889461

maura, Thursday, 18 December 2014 19:32 (nine years ago) link

that's well suited to this thread; made me kinda ill to read

a stupid red mute juggalo (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 18 December 2014 19:33 (nine years ago) link

unless you are a medieval Venetia or Cher Horowitz don't say ducats imo

tl;dr, gukbar, morbis detrius (wins), Thursday, 18 December 2014 19:35 (nine years ago) link

yeah it's just gross on multiple levels

maura, Thursday, 18 December 2014 19:36 (nine years ago) link

it's like a parody of what everyone thought gawker was when it launched

maura, Thursday, 18 December 2014 19:36 (nine years ago) link

Bros have felt like music journalism doesn't "get" them, so this helps.

Evan, Thursday, 18 December 2014 19:42 (nine years ago) link

Ms. Rac-Tan

tl;dr, gukbar, morbis detrius (wins), Thursday, 18 December 2014 19:44 (nine years ago) link

Are you bigger than Drake? Get at me, zel✧✧✧@rat✧✧✧.c✧✧.

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 18 December 2014 19:45 (nine years ago) link

no mention yet of the homophobic piece about the Peter Pan musical that Gawker ran?

― EZ Snappin, Friday, December 5, 2014 4:48 PM (1 week ago) Bookmark

buncha straight men in this thread calling a gay man a homophobe.... welcome to 2014

J0rdan S., Thursday, 18 December 2014 19:52 (nine years ago) link

I know nothing about the writer, but the piece read as classic bullshit musical theater = gay.

EZ Snappin, Thursday, 18 December 2014 20:09 (nine years ago) link

just scanned through it and there is literally nothing homophobic about it. i can see how one might think so if one's basic understanding of gayness-as-identity is lowest common denominator musical-theater-ness, but that would be actually homophobic.

languagelessness (mattresslessness), Thursday, 18 December 2014 20:19 (nine years ago) link

Pretty sure a bunch of us saw the article as homophobic. Which it is. Also it's written from a position of complete gleeful ignorance about the subject at hand, and badly written at that. Maybe he should add an "I'm gay, btw" to the article to clear everything up to the casual reader.

a strawman stuffed with their collection of 12 cds (jjjusten), Thursday, 18 December 2014 20:22 (nine years ago) link

being funny with gleeful ignorance is a great position to write from, actually

J0rdan S., Thursday, 18 December 2014 20:45 (nine years ago) link

Should I make a comment about social justice warriors scooping up the low hanging fruit or would that be misconstrued?

Vic Perry, Thursday, 18 December 2014 20:45 (nine years ago) link

i can see how one might think so if one's basic understanding of gayness-as-identity is lowest common denominator musical-theater-ness, but that would be actually homophobic.

but anyway, mattresslessness has it

J0rdan S., Thursday, 18 December 2014 20:47 (nine years ago) link

"being funny with gleeful ignorance is a great position to write from, actually"

So you were a big fan of the wife writes about her husbands record collection thing then

a strawman stuffed with their collection of 12 cds (jjjusten), Thursday, 18 December 2014 20:55 (nine years ago) link

After I read the part about how beating on pots and pans was analogous to beating off, this immediately sprang to mind:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iHLEA2HNR98

the farakhan of gg (DJP), Thursday, 18 December 2014 21:00 (nine years ago) link

being funny with gleeful ignorance is a great position to write from, actually

― J0rdan S., Thursday, December 18, 2014 8:45 PM (16 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

larry the cable guy fan here

da croupier, Thursday, 18 December 2014 21:04 (nine years ago) link

Let's all construe the statement in the most simplistic way possible. That will make a strong statement against gleeful ignorance.

Vic Perry, Thursday, 18 December 2014 21:06 (nine years ago) link

don't curse our darkness, complex it up for us

da croupier, Thursday, 18 December 2014 21:08 (nine years ago) link

So:

perpetuating LCD tropes = not-homophobic

dismay at LCD tropes = homophobic

Gotcha.

EZ Snappin, Thursday, 18 December 2014 21:08 (nine years ago) link

i haven't seen the peter pan musical and don't care to, but from what i can surmise, from clips and coverage, it's exactly the kind of gay minstrelsy hetero culture latches onto to share in the fabulousness (and then draw a line in the sand with "homophobic" when someone takes issue with its representation of gayness or boringness or w/e). get a clue morans

languagelessness (mattresslessness), Thursday, 18 December 2014 21:20 (nine years ago) link

it's very gay ghetto. i don't think saying that's boring is homophobic.

languagelessness (mattresslessness), Thursday, 18 December 2014 21:24 (nine years ago) link

get a clue morans

languagelessness (mattresslessness), Thursday, 18 December 2014 21:25 (nine years ago) link

Rufus Wainwright is boring.

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 18 December 2014 21:27 (nine years ago) link

Young Thug is not boring.

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 18 December 2014 21:27 (nine years ago) link

it's not homophobic in criticism to point out that something is cribbing from or has taken on the qualities of gayness/gay culture

J0rdan S., Thursday, 18 December 2014 21:31 (nine years ago) link

ty

languagelessness (mattresslessness), Thursday, 18 December 2014 21:36 (nine years ago) link

and sorry for use of the g-word.

languagelessness (mattresslessness), Thursday, 18 December 2014 21:37 (nine years ago) link

The lineup has been shit the last couple years – COME AT ME.

anybody taken him up on this offer yet?

ƋППṍӮɨ∏ğڵșěᶉᶇдM℮ (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 18 December 2014 21:57 (nine years ago) link

classic URL

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 22 December 2014 14:26 (nine years ago) link

A bot generated that article, yes?

Ned Raggett, Monday, 22 December 2014 14:38 (nine years ago) link

Headline OTM, not reading the article tho

Whiney G. Weingarten, Monday, 22 December 2014 15:32 (nine years ago) link

Don’t get me wrong, the purging of the popular music star is far from finished; but it is hard to miss that there used to be dozens of household names generated each year, whereas now entire genres of music are subsisting entirely on vapors still whiffing around from the 1980s. When recorded sound became a possibility more than a century ago, experimental genius and notable asshole Thomas Edison reckoned that those cylinders containing electrical audio would be most useful for archiving political speeches for posterity; instead, that recorded sound created gods on earth of all types of singers and music-makers, and for a good century a formidable industry was built that took a singer of songs, allowed their voice to imprint within the minds of listeners everywhere. Within decades, we let our music stars determine the attitude of our times and become the erotic politicians that taught us how to comport ourselves as we interfaced with all strata of society.

But the all-seeing eye of modern technology has destroyed the god by shattering the myths that allowed us to take a rock band or a pop singer and let them swell in our mind into a personal deity to be worshipped at our own appointed household shrines. Sure, lots of people still bought, say, the new Taylor Swift or Beyoncé album — but no one but a prepubescent child would actually think that these people mean or say anything of any significance.

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 22 December 2014 16:04 (nine years ago) link

love the mixed metaphors, treacly mix of serious and vulgar.

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 22 December 2014 16:05 (nine years ago) link

first one of '15 http://www.cvltnation.com/is-veganism-changing-the-face-of-extreme-music/

appreciate this website isn't in line for a Pulitzer but even so this is astonishingly incoherent

ganglier than the Pantilimon statue (DJ Mencap), Monday, 5 January 2015 11:35 (nine years ago) link

Yeah, he seems to be coming from a vague position of 'veganism is happy hippy stuff so it's changing the militant image of extreme music' or something, but that's fatally undermined by the first things that came to my mind: youth crew, Earth Crisis, etc etc.

wronger than 100 geir posts (MacDara), Monday, 5 January 2015 12:13 (nine years ago) link

'White rappers are always difficult to comprehend'

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/12/29/the-cultural-crimes-of-iggy-azalea.html

campreverb, Monday, 5 January 2015 14:22 (nine years ago) link

I like the idea that "Real hip-hop fans" are defined by their inability to let go of questionable Grammy victories.

da croupier, Monday, 5 January 2015 14:54 (nine years ago) link

i'm being unkind here but
http://diffuser.fm/classic-means-of-music-discovery/

Who would I be if the greasy kid in my high school music theory class hadn’t told me, with rapture in his eyes, about Neutral Milk Hotel?

shmup....smug....shmub....shmug.... (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 7 January 2015 15:50 (nine years ago) link

http://www.avclub.com/article/fugazis-promises-bleak-honest-213040

man alive, Wednesday, 7 January 2015 16:04 (nine years ago) link

The general concept of promises is great, but as Fugazi notes, actual “promises are shit.” That’s the basic message of “Promises,” from the group’s excellent 1989 EP Margin Walker. Singer and guitarist Ian MacKaye begins the song singing about how “Words and expressions / All these confessions / Of where we stand / How I see you / And you see me” are essentially meaningless. Promises are super and everything, but they don’t mean shit if there’s nothing but words there to back them up. Moreover, if you’re a committed significant other, friend, worker, brother, sister, etc., then you don’t need to go into absolutes to be loyal and to be there for someone. As MacKaye sings later in the song, “You will do what you do / I will do what I do / We will do what we do.”

It’s a message that could be perceived as a little bleak, especially set against MacKaye’s blunt and accented expletives, but it’s also a solid one, if you think about it. Promises might sound sweet, but they can be broken with just one word, glance, or stray thought. Stay true to yourself by doing what you want, when you want—keeping others in mind, of course—and you’ll never need to make another promise again.

man alive, Wednesday, 7 January 2015 16:05 (nine years ago) link

smdh

man alive, Wednesday, 7 January 2015 16:05 (nine years ago) link


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