Why is casual racism/sexism more accepted in video games than other forms of media (these days)?

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i just want to say reading this whole thread has been amazing and making fun of gamergate as an outsider is fun but also very sad.

leyawn (dumbass man), Saturday, 22 November 2014 20:49 (nine years ago) link

i mean that in a way like "i feel very sad"

leyawn (dumbass man), Saturday, 22 November 2014 20:50 (nine years ago) link

A friend today told me that her son, a 5th grader who has pretty much unfettered internet access, said to her, "did you know that feminists are doing lots of terrible things to people who play video games?"

Guayaquil (eephus!), Monday, 24 November 2014 03:41 (nine years ago) link

i wonder if it is negative that many young people's first exposure to feminism will be through social media rather than wherever it is i first learned about feminism.

Treeship, Monday, 24 November 2014 03:45 (nine years ago) link

wikipedia probably.

Treeship, Monday, 24 November 2014 03:45 (nine years ago) link

so the good folks of gamergate are crowdsourcing a book that will blow the lid off the whole thing i guess? https://docs.google.com/document/d/12pVu8KX8lACSUpKaVo-_JyLDaS3m6GAyUCt_7JqcIhI/mobilebasic?pli=1

naturally it's totally batshit:

I must warn you that what you are about to read will piss you off. This is a story of an underdog fighting an underdog and both sides lose. The villains hide on both sides and the only heroes you will find are those who fight to have their defeat remembered. We have collected witnesses to recall and discuss, but most importantly document this little war that otherwise would be forgotten. We would not be forgotten in the endless sea of ones and zeroes that many other events have been dissolved by, but drowned by liars who could only just grasp the lowest bars of the social ladder.

Let’s take a walk through no man’s land. What you will find here among the ash piles are evidence of lies, deception, ill-gotten gains, facades, and false morality. You will also find the mark of our footprints; the steps we took to pull back the curtain and expose the corruption around us.

Dramatics aside, we have banded many together to write about the corruption of gaming journalism, social justice movements, and social media gurus. While it may seem like a “big internet fight” the repercussions of what has become known as GamerGate are much larger. What on the surface appears as nerds upset about internet politics expands to events of bribery, theft from charity, murder threats, rape, and a whole lot more.

There is nothing we can do about what has already happened. The damage has been done deep. We can educate you though. We can teach you about what has happened and how to make sure it never happens again. Hold on to your seat. The ride never ends.

bizarro gazzara, Monday, 24 November 2014 10:15 (nine years ago) link

CH 5: Five guys. Start off with a background to gamergate. Lay the framework to explain everything that is happening. Explain that conflict started when Literally Whos ex-bf Eron went public with all that was going on. In his blog post he mentioned that Zoe (supposedly) slept with five guys for publicity and/or connections. Later on it was proven to be at least 3 guys, and only one actually mattered (no direct proof for other ones), but the important thing is that this blog post was a catalyst for what happened. While an article could be dismissed like other articles like that (I remember there being blog posts on journo insiders in 2012/2013, anyone know what it was?), it generated a wave of publicity when mundanematts video about it was DMCAd by someone claiming to be Literaly Who. People started looking into it and found a lot of shit on this - IA, mundanematt and other outspoken youtubers made videos about it and made this blow up in gaming presss face. This marked the beginning of what was called the cold war.

yeah this is the kind of stuff that will totally convince the outside world of the need for ethics in videogames journalism

bizarro gazzara, Monday, 24 November 2014 10:17 (nine years ago) link

I'm reading almost every sentence like it's been uttered in a comic book panel caption featuring a guy in a fedora staring down a rain-slicked street

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Monday, 24 November 2014 11:04 (nine years ago) link

rorschach cosplayers is a rabbit hole I don't wanna go down

DISMISSED AS CHANCE (NotEnough), Monday, 24 November 2014 11:51 (nine years ago) link

This marked the beginning of what was called the cold war.

Startlingly different take to what i remember from gcse history

hmmm, never made the connection before with Rorschach rocking a fedora.

We would not be forgotten in the endless sea of ones and zeroes that many other events have been dissolved by

can someone go in there and start a 10,000 post thread about how this should actually say "by which many other events have been dissolved"

Guayaquil (eephus!), Monday, 24 November 2014 14:23 (nine years ago) link

you are the ones and zeros youve been waiting for

lag∞n, Monday, 24 November 2014 14:26 (nine years ago) link

http://randi.io/wp/archives/86

mh, Monday, 24 November 2014 14:49 (nine years ago) link

good read

Nhex, Monday, 24 November 2014 16:57 (nine years ago) link

rorschach is also an undersized, unattractive, reclusive nerd right

anonanon, Monday, 24 November 2014 18:49 (nine years ago) link

and a ginger to boot

valleys of your mind (mh), Monday, 24 November 2014 18:53 (nine years ago) link

rorschach is so obviously the patron saint of these dudes, i am mad at myself for not thinking of it

Roberto Spiralli, Monday, 24 November 2014 18:55 (nine years ago) link

if we go further down the rorschach rabbit hole, we can draw a line from rorschach to his original inspiration, steve ditko's the question. when ditko created his own fedora-wearing creator-owned version of the question, he called him

http://cloudfront-assets.juliansanchez.com/wp-content/uploads/mt/mra.jpg

MRA, y'all.

*drops mic*

bizarro gazzara, Monday, 24 November 2014 19:00 (nine years ago) link

Actually it's about ethics in false-flag cross-dimensional alien materialisations.

the "she slept with FIVE GUYS... wait, it was three... wait, only one of them matters.. actually, nothing came of that" is one of the more laughably pathetic tentpoles of the quinnspiracy

lol nice MR.A conspiratorial shoutout BG

Nhex, Monday, 24 November 2014 21:22 (nine years ago) link

implicitly making it about criticizing a woman having sex is about as intellectually honest as they've been

valleys of your mind (mh), Monday, 24 November 2014 21:36 (nine years ago) link

gamergaters have done so much for charity! this 100% ethical chart proves it!

http://i3.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/867/200/977.jpg

(notice that they've proven that anti-gg activists have raised nothing for charity by, er, googling 'zero dollars and zero cents')

bizarro gazzara, Tuesday, 25 November 2014 14:24 (nine years ago) link

The Fine Young Capitalists

Ratt in Mi Kitchen (Neil S), Tuesday, 25 November 2014 14:31 (nine years ago) link

hahaha

the farakhan of gg (DJP), Tuesday, 25 November 2014 14:31 (nine years ago) link

and the reason they donated so much to the fine young capitalists? tfyc had a well-publicised spat with zoe quinn.

bizarro gazzara, Tuesday, 25 November 2014 14:43 (nine years ago) link

I donate to charity all the time regardless of what 'gates are in style

valleys of your mind (mh), Tuesday, 25 November 2014 14:49 (nine years ago) link

Similarly the FTC communication that they're getting excited about now is something that they're excited about because it's a way to piss off Gawker - but the FTC is looking at it in particular because Gamasutra was enquiring about YouTube advertorials six months ago.

Also of course lol at the polite tone of "You haven't done the thing we wanted, do you have another email address we could use?"

Andrew Farrell, Tuesday, 25 November 2014 14:54 (nine years ago) link

lol @ the gamerghazi graphic, featuring a blonde cartoon girl and no actual women

Nhex, Tuesday, 25 November 2014 19:28 (nine years ago) link

"NAMBLA has already rescued 167 puppies from animal shelters this year. But so-called "child-advocates" have rescued ZERO PUPPIES. Who are the real bad guys here?"

my jaw left (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 25 November 2014 19:52 (nine years ago) link

lol

bizarro gazzara, Tuesday, 25 November 2014 19:55 (nine years ago) link

the gamergate book is evolving:

We never got along perfectly well with the wider world, but we always worked to improve it. We worked to make it lulzier, to bend reality to our own purposes, to end that that was our foe in this great war. This great war across not only the Internet, but across the outer world. Our armies waged war against Scientology and their proto-SJW brainwashing. Hacker artillery shelled the sites of oppressive (real oppression, not SJ “oppression”) middle eastern governments in support of the ordinary men protesting the governments. When a corporate security firm came to crush us, we besieged them and revealed their darkest secrets to the world. When we heard those running Habbo Hotel were oppressing their users (the truly oppressed), we invaded the hotel and seized the pool.

bizarro gazzara, Tuesday, 25 November 2014 21:08 (nine years ago) link

When we heard those running Habbo Hotel were oppressing their users (the truly oppressed), we invaded the hotel and seized the pool.
When we heard those running Habbo Hotel were oppressing their users (the truly oppressed), we invaded the hotel and seized the pool.
When we heard those running Habbo Hotel were oppressing their users (the truly oppressed), we invaded the hotel and seized the pool.
When we heard those running Habbo Hotel were oppressing their users (the truly oppressed), we invaded the hotel and seized the pool.
When we heard those running Habbo Hotel were oppressing their users (the truly oppressed), we invaded the hotel and seized the pool.
When we heard those running Habbo Hotel were oppressing their users (the truly oppressed), we invaded the hotel and seized the pool.
When we heard those running Habbo Hotel were oppressing their users (the truly oppressed), we invaded the hotel and seized the pool.
When we heard those running Habbo Hotel were oppressing their users (the truly oppressed), we invaded the hotel and seized the pool.
When we heard those running Habbo Hotel were oppressing their users (the truly oppressed), we invaded the hotel and seized the pool.
When we heard those running Habbo Hotel were oppressing their users (the truly oppressed), we invaded the hotel and seized the pool.
When we heard those running Habbo Hotel were oppressing their users (the truly oppressed), we invaded the hotel and seized the pool.
When we heard those running Habbo Hotel were oppressing their users (the truly oppressed), we invaded the hotel and seized the pool.
When we heard those running Habbo Hotel were oppressing their users (the truly oppressed), we invaded the hotel and seized the pool.
When we heard those running Habbo Hotel were oppressing their users (the truly oppressed), we invaded the hotel and seized the pool.

the farakhan of gg (DJP), Tuesday, 25 November 2014 21:13 (nine years ago) link

heroes

the farakhan of gg (DJP), Tuesday, 25 November 2014 21:13 (nine years ago) link

hahaha

Nhex, Tuesday, 25 November 2014 21:14 (nine years ago) link

http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/pools-closed (fyi)

1staethyr, Tuesday, 25 November 2014 21:15 (nine years ago) link

but also lmao

1staethyr, Tuesday, 25 November 2014 21:15 (nine years ago) link

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lbdkspfgLr1qzuqe9.jpg

bizarro gazzara, Tuesday, 25 November 2014 21:15 (nine years ago) link

I was just reading that link

still lolling

the farakhan of gg (DJP), Tuesday, 25 November 2014 21:17 (nine years ago) link

Whhaaat

http://i1.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/123/667/IRLswastigetfinland.jpg

jmm, Tuesday, 25 November 2014 21:21 (nine years ago) link

I honestly can't imagine what it's like to be this stupid.

the farakhan of gg (DJP), Tuesday, 25 November 2014 21:27 (nine years ago) link

what is that?

my jaw left (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 25 November 2014 21:29 (nine years ago) link

looks like a swastika

this things i believe (art), Tuesday, 25 November 2014 21:32 (nine years ago) link

I mean who are the people

my jaw left (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 25 November 2014 21:33 (nine years ago) link

Read the link

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Tuesday, 25 November 2014 21:34 (nine years ago) link

The internet is so fucking stupid

In early 2008, a Texan named Mary Alice Altorfer came across a “Pool’s Closed” sign in her neighborhood and called the local news station with a claim that it was promoting racial discrimination. Altorfer’s encounter with an internet meme in real life was soon turned into a news story and after the broadcast, a video clip of the report was uploaded onto YouTube. In the following days, members of Anonymous allegedly launched a harassment campaign against the woman.

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Tuesday, 25 November 2014 21:35 (nine years ago) link

It's a "real life 'swastiget'", apparently? I have no idea.

The Habbo Hotel raids by 4chan’s /b/ became so popular that they eventulally gained some offline recognition as well. In Finland, people rallied together outside Sulake’s headquarters (the parent company of Habbo Hotel) in afro wigs and suits, forming a real life “swastiget.” In the center was someone cosplaying the character Suiseiseki from the anime Rozen Maiden.

jmm, Tuesday, 25 November 2014 21:36 (nine years ago) link

Read the link

― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Tuesday, November 25, 2014 1:34 PM (42 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Didn't mean for this to sound harsh, just that the link sums up what would be a very unwieldy explanation

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Tuesday, 25 November 2014 21:37 (nine years ago) link


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