OK, is this the worst piece of music writing ever?

xpost re Kim

Pixies (bass) to Breeders (guitar)

Beastie Boys

Miles Davis was known for playing the trumpet for the vast majority of his career - then abruptly switched to organ for a large portion of this electric period

― Οὖτις, Wednesday, November 19, 2014 5:00 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Yeah but no one is ever gonna mainly associate Miles with the organ, and he played trumpet on all the records he played organ on (unless there's one I'm not thinking of).

where does this "mainly associate" come from? the question was strictly about mid-career instrument switching

even if that did matter, do you really think Grohl is "mainly associated" with his shitty guitar+vocals and not his drumming in Nirvana?

I'm saying he didn't really "switch" he just started also playing organ, it wasn't a collins or grohl type thing where their primary band role completely changed.

I think for a lot of people the image of Grohl that comes to mind first would be frontman of foo fighters, yeah.

I'm saying he didn't really "switch" he just started also playing organ

ok fine

don't agree about Grohl but whatever

Father John Misty

you're overestimating the shitty younger generation

Dennis Wilson

John Cale

ven if that did matter, do you really think Grohl is "mainly associated" with his shitty guitar+vocals and not his drumming in Nirvana?

― Οὖτις, Wednesday, November 19, 2014 5:15 PM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

what planet do you live on

Bill Clinton

the planet where Nirvana is one of the biggest bands of all time and the Foo Fighters are that shitty band that happened afterwards

xp

me too, mate

that's not a planet it's an age

Age Planet

the planet where Nirvana is one of the biggest bands of all time and the Foo Fighters are that shitty band that happened afterwards

xp

― Οὖτις,

You slipped from sales to aesthetic judgment here

I mean if you don't pay attention then say so but Foo are huge for anyone who came of age 1997-2004.

have they sold more records than Nirvana?

Shakey is
http://iv1.lisimg.com/image/1564715/600full-flight-of-the-navigator-screenshot.jpg

really wanted to post "mainly associated with singing, mainly associated with drumming, let's just agree he's mainly ass" but i've been disrespectful enough today

grant hart would be relevant point of comparison for grohl, except sounding a bit like husker du never really brought him any great success

afaict Foo Fighters have not actually sold more records than Nirvana

that'll show all the nobody who argued otherwise

I would think there would be some connection between record sales and the band DG is "mainly associated" with but agree this whole tangent is stupid

I feel dumb pointing this out but dave grohl wasn't the front guy in nirvana and that might affect people's perception of what his main deal is

the error in that logic is the idea that if more people have an album you drum on than an album you sing on, more people know you as a drummer than as a singer. if you spend 20 years fronting a platinum-gold level band after drumming for a multi-platinum band for 3, just saying the earlier band sold more ignores the fact of how long you've been in bigger light and for what.

xpost

He only played on two of the Nirvana albums btw.

giant derp @ just-woken-up me re Deal, sorry Jo Wiggs still ♥ u boo, Ladies Who Lunch 4eva

It just seems pretty obvious to me that what MC meant was artists who go from being widely known as the instrument x player of a band to being widely known as the instrument/role y guy of a different band, and I don't think there are tons of examples of that.

xxxp yeah but people don't know drummers

also, what instrument is phil collins supposed to be known for? his voice? (or synthesizers??) i feel like, ignoring what singers think of themselves (their special and unique talents etc), for musicians playing an instrument and also being able to sing competently should not really be counted as, like, an exception.

also

Lloyd Ryan recalled: "Phil always had a problem with reading. That was always a big problem for him. That’s a shame because reading drum music isn’t that difficult."

http://www.toughpigs.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/trailer11.jpg?9d7bd4

http://www.nme.com/images/gallery/LemmyKitKatAdGb040412.jpg

http://29.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ltqr9p3w7J1r1np10o1_500.jpg

this:
has any other musician switched instruments mid-career like DG?

is a much, much broader category than this:

artists who go from being widely known as the instrument x player of a band to being widely known as the instrument/role y guy of a different band

which are two v v different things

cuz there are tons of musicians that switch instruments mid-career - the main difference is there are not a ton of musicians who are "like DG" in the sense of being widely known as instrument x player of any band

Fatboy Slim

John Maclean

Don Henley

Bruce Willis

Christopher Guest

hey guys, didn't mean to stir up confusion...

i was asking about

"artists who go from being widely known as the instrument x player of a band to being widely known as the instrument/role y guy of a different band"

...because as someone pointed out, just playing more than one instrument is not that uncommon.....

probably could have worded it better, but just a quick post spurred by idle curiosity....

also, great shot of lemmy.....

this thread made me go back and listen to Big Me, which i regret

grant hart would be relevant point of comparison for grohl, except sounding a bit like husker du never really brought him any great success
― john wahey (NickB), Wednesday, November 19, 2014 4:57 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Except Grant was a main songwriter and sang in Husker Du

so... are we all pretending that deej's Chief Keef review never happened or did no one else see it

for reference: http://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/20027-chief-keef-gucci-mane-back-from-the-dead-2big-gucci-sosa/