STEVE ALBINI

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what abt the painting & sculpture industry

am0n, Wednesday, 19 November 2014 19:30 (nine years ago) link

scare quotes or nixon impression

http://oi58.tinypic.com/t86pf9.jpg

am0n, Wednesday, 19 November 2014 19:35 (nine years ago) link

three weeks pass...

Letters to Santa might bring to mind a school exercise, "like writing a letter to Santa asking for a new GI Joe or Barbie doll," says Albini, who spends most of the year engineering punk-rock records at his North Side studio or recording and playing with his band Shellac. "The reality is that these letters are usually from heads of household with nowhere to turn. What would it take for a grown-up to write a letter to Santa to ask for help? It's not casual want. These are people who have no support on earth taking a random shot. Those were the letters that broke my heart the most."

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 11 December 2014 19:54 (nine years ago) link

America is so sad

you say tomato/i say imago (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 11 December 2014 21:59 (nine years ago) link

seven months pass...

this mostly made me lol but i'm sure someone will find a way to empathize with this well-told tale of SA's overzealous hero worship
http://thetalkhouse.com/music/talks/marissa-paternoster-screaming-females-talks/

La Lechera, Monday, 10 August 2015 00:18 (eight years ago) link

one month passes...

steve is a funny old cove:

http://thequietus.com/articles/18882-powell-vs-steve-albini

Ray Chard (NickB), Tuesday, 29 September 2015 11:31 (eight years ago) link

"I've always detested mechanized dance music, its stupid simplicity, the clubs where it was played, the people who went to those clubs, the drugs they took, the shit they liked to talk about, the clothes they wore, the battles they fought amongst each other... basically all of it, 100 percent hated every scrap."

Oh dear. Albini continued: "The electronic music I liked was radical and different, shit like the White Noise, Xenakis, Suicide, Kraftwerk, and the earliest stuff form Cabaret Voltaire, SPK and DAF. When that scene and those people got co-opted by dance/club music I felt like we'd lost a war. I detest club culture as deeply as I detest anything on earth. So I am against what you're into, and an enemy of where you come from".

seems so weird having such an entrenched position on this in 2015. unless he's just kidding around of course

Ray Chard (NickB), Tuesday, 29 September 2015 11:36 (eight years ago) link

"The electronic music I liked was radical and different, shit like the White Noise, Xenakis, Suicide, Kraftwerk, and the earliest stuff form Cabaret Voltaire, SPK and DAF"

^ ironically i can now only hear this in my head in the LFO Frequencies intro voice

Ray Chard (NickB), Tuesday, 29 September 2015 12:06 (eight years ago) link

I totally agree with him. In 1992, when I was 20 and didn't know shit and thought my opinion on others peoples' lives mattered to them and the world at large.

jimmy falloff (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Tuesday, 29 September 2015 12:08 (eight years ago) link

(Cool that he DGAF about the sample, though.)

jimmy falloff (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Tuesday, 29 September 2015 12:09 (eight years ago) link

That's a very odd way of responding to a sample request. Funny though!

One bad call from barely losing to (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 29 September 2015 12:09 (eight years ago) link

can't figure out what war he is fighting here and why

Ray Chard (NickB), Tuesday, 29 September 2015 12:13 (eight years ago) link

i think there is something sorta charming about having this position in 2015

♛ LIL UNIT ♛ (thomp), Tuesday, 29 September 2015 12:26 (eight years ago) link

"Would you like butter or margarine on your toast, Mr Albini?"

*5-minute rant about the suffering of factory cows and the evils of the petroleum industry. Then:*
"IDGAF, whatever."

hardcore dilettante, Tuesday, 29 September 2015 12:41 (eight years ago) link

He's just answering an email requesting permission to sample his voice, and trying to do so with dignity instead of just "No" or "Don't care."

I know some Civil War re-enactors you might want to talk to (Eazy), Tuesday, 29 September 2015 12:42 (eight years ago) link

Thinking it's weird and acting all baffled because someone articulated the view that club culture is stupid and detestable is baffling and weird. A firmly entrenched view that clubs and dance music are unassailable is much more bizarre.

Albini surmised that someone was just trying to scrape up a bit of interest in their record. Rote response from him. Bingo! Get the Quietus to scratch a tiny piece of content out of this pretend-beef, without which the story would be "someone just made another house record".

everything, Tuesday, 29 September 2015 12:42 (eight years ago) link

He's just answering an email requesting permission to sample his voice, and trying to do so with dignity instead of just "No" or "Don't care."
--I know some Civil War re-enactors you might want to talk to (Eazy)

Shorter ways of saying "sure" though surely. There is something a bit "I have to make sure you know how I feel about the thing."

One bad call from barely losing to (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 29 September 2015 12:46 (eight years ago) link

Powell probably wrote a horribly condescending or patronizing email. Albini could print it up for the cover of his next record. Maybe a blog would write about that. But probably not because that would be stupid.

everything, Tuesday, 29 September 2015 12:50 (eight years ago) link

He was trying to clear a sample of course he did!

One bad call from barely losing to (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 29 September 2015 13:09 (eight years ago) link

Irony is with Albini an assholish letter dripping with contempt would have equally served.

One bad call from barely losing to (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 29 September 2015 13:13 (eight years ago) link

I'm pleasantly impressed by the consistency of both Abini and MacKaye in their later years. They've been grouch ascetics for years, but they're not without humor, and to this day afaict tell if you want to talk to them you just give them a call where they work.

Speaking of which, for those that missed it I found this recent interview with MacKaye honestly inspiring:
http://www.huckmagazine.com/art-and-culture/ian-mackaye-survival-issue-interview/

This was one of my favorite bits:

But I hate to talk so much about the fucking computer. The fact that it’s dominating this conversation is a sickness. All we can talk about is our devices. For the last decade, society has been stoned on technology. If we’re living through a screen, we’re not doing anything. I thought a lot about the psychological effects of an office. People working eight, ten, twelve hours a day. Look up from that computer, look around you, and nothing has moved. Never in the history of the world have people worked ten hours and nothing has moved. Imagine if you were sweeping for twelve hours how clean your fucking house would be? The dirty plate next to your computer? It’s still there! As a society, there’s gotta be a psychological effect. I don’t know what it will be, but at some point, people will sit back and realise that this is a tool. And that life – real life – is outside of it. I can accept it’s a miracle that we’re talking across an ocean, but fuck if I’m gonna live in it! I wanna go outside, too. If you want to talk about real navigation, one should seek balance. If the right foot and left foot are out of whack, then you go down.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 29 September 2015 13:32 (eight years ago) link

Oh noes, Steve doesn't like some bleep-blorp music! We need a thinkpiece!

chr1sb3singer, Tuesday, 29 September 2015 13:56 (eight years ago) link

People working eight, ten, twelve hours a day. Look up from that computer, look around you, and nothing has moved. Never in the history of the world have people worked ten hours and nothing has moved. Imagine if you were sweeping for twelve hours how clean your fucking house would be? The dirty plate next to your computer? It’s still there! As a society, there’s gotta be a psychological effect.

imagine a nation of pianists, their fingers moving all day and nothing changing around them.

da croupier, Tuesday, 29 September 2015 14:50 (eight years ago) link

playing guitar all day is obviously different because you can hop around

da croupier, Tuesday, 29 September 2015 14:51 (eight years ago) link

real physical music made with real physical guitars

Neil S, Tuesday, 29 September 2015 14:52 (eight years ago) link

a good retort from ian would be "sir, when i'm done working, the people around me are visibly moved."

da croupier, Tuesday, 29 September 2015 14:53 (eight years ago) link

Except they're not, because he sternly chided them for moshing and crowd-surfing.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 29 September 2015 15:00 (eight years ago) link

"Oh noes, Steve doesn't like some bleep-blorp music! We need a thinkpiece!"

Pretty sure the Quietus thing does not qualify as a thinkpiece.

One bad call from barely losing to (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 29 September 2015 15:22 (eight years ago) link

It doesn't but I am assuming one is coming

chr1sb3singer, Tuesday, 29 September 2015 15:46 (eight years ago) link

that mackaye interview was excellent thank you.

new noise, Tuesday, 29 September 2015 15:49 (eight years ago) link

Thinking it's weird and acting all baffled because someone articulated the view that club culture is stupid and detestable is baffling and weird. A firmly entrenched view that clubs and dance music are unassailable is much more bizarre.

Albini surmised that someone was just trying to scrape up a bit of interest in their record. Rote response from him. Bingo! Get the Quietus to scratch a tiny piece of content out of this pretend-beef, without which the story would be "someone just made another house record".

― everything, Tuesday, September 29, 2015 1:42 PM (5 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

this is otm.

i like quite a bit of albini's projects.

powell using the email correspondence as a tongue-in-cheek marketing scheme is pretty off-putting. i'm interested to see what he does with it in the music video.

F♯ A♯ (∞), Tuesday, 29 September 2015 18:20 (eight years ago) link

Powell makes techno, not house. There's a world of difference

paolo, Tuesday, 29 September 2015 18:40 (eight years ago) link

It also sounds quite a lot like Cab Vol, SPK and DAF (sort of)

paolo, Tuesday, 29 September 2015 18:41 (eight years ago) link

'It' being the music that Powell makes

paolo, Tuesday, 29 September 2015 18:41 (eight years ago) link

to the last, i grapple with club culture; from hell's heart, i stab at club culture; for hate's sake, i spit my last breath at club culture

mookieproof, Tuesday, 29 September 2015 18:45 (eight years ago) link

I do think that its noteworthy that he does not seemed to have budged an inch from 1986 or so. I suppose the club culture that he would have had more proximity to would be…like, white people with peacock-ish haircuts dancing to Information society, maybe?

Not that what he dislikes is indivisible from black culture, but he seems to completely lack any inclination to engage with black music post…like what exactly? There was this oral history of whichever Tortoise record awhile back, where one of the guys related talking to him about house music or a remix or something to him, and he was indignant or bewildered that anyone would do such a thing. and while I was around him once or twice growing up in and being peripherally involved in the 80s Louisville scene, the first I ever heard of him was in Spin, inveighing somewhat questionably about "beatbox rap."

veronica moser, Tuesday, 29 September 2015 21:01 (eight years ago) link

Powell sounds like the whitest thing ever tbh.

everything, Tuesday, 29 September 2015 21:05 (eight years ago) link

Big Black covered James Brown.

everything, Tuesday, 29 September 2015 21:06 (eight years ago) link

Also Rick James.

One bad call from barely losing to (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 29 September 2015 21:20 (eight years ago) link

I suppose covering the odd r'n'b standard is still considered pretty rad in some parts:p

xelab, Tuesday, 29 September 2015 21:26 (eight years ago) link

facebook discussion on Xhukk's page mentions that indeed Powell makes the kinda shit he might dig.

he simply couldn't simply say "yes" or "no thank you." he had to pedantically explain his decades-old grudge against music intended for dancing to a guy who likes what he does but who he had to cast as his ideological opponent. not consonant with his more avuncular role as a facilitator for younger musicians…gotta be G/B/D, I guess.

veronica moser, Tuesday, 29 September 2015 21:28 (eight years ago) link

he obviously did this guy a favor by giving him a shitload of free PR, idg how this can be interpreted any other way

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 29 September 2015 21:30 (eight years ago) link

he gets to a) play the role of "Steve Albini" (which he clearly enjoys) and b) this guy gets a ton of attention, it's a win-win

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 29 September 2015 21:32 (eight years ago) link

and everyone is stupider

mattresslessness, Tuesday, 29 September 2015 21:40 (eight years ago) link

I'm gonna go check out electrical audio boards… I reckon he will have no opposition as such today…

veronica moser, Tuesday, 29 September 2015 21:42 (eight years ago) link

why would anyone ever do that for any reason

mattresslessness, Tuesday, 29 September 2015 21:43 (eight years ago) link

Is this really a shitload of free PR and a ton of attention? Pretty sure Powell gets more press at this point than Albini does.

One bad call from barely losing to (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 29 September 2015 21:48 (eight years ago) link

well I'd never heard of him before

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 29 September 2015 21:50 (eight years ago) link

(not that that's indicative of anything than my own cloistered existence)

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 29 September 2015 21:50 (eight years ago) link


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