andrew sullivan c/d

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I wouldn't feel too guilty about that. For all the hubbub he makes about the importance of supporting independent journalism and all of that, so much of what that blog does is link to outside content and other sites' reporting and analysis. If anything I feel guilty that I'm supporting that aggregation over sites that do actual journalism.

Evan R, Monday, 17 November 2014 16:41 (nine years ago) link

I understand outside sites benefit greatly from his links, too, so it's a symbiotic relationship, but still, one party is doing significantly more work than the other

Evan R, Monday, 17 November 2014 16:43 (nine years ago) link

two months pass...

that post endorsing Chait was a suitable last straw

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 18:43 (nine years ago) link

RIP - i read sullivan for a year or two back when he was still at the atlantic. some things he always did well (primarily social issues) and some things he has always been horrible with (geopolitics)

Mordy, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 18:44 (nine years ago) link

still read him every day, often nervously

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 18:45 (nine years ago) link

And now, where will you go?

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 19:20 (nine years ago) link

Damn, end of an era. Can't believe he's crossing the blogger rubicon

https://twitter.com/johnjcook

polyphonic, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 19:42 (nine years ago) link

it's always been hard to take this dude seriously because of his support of the iraq invasion. how can someone so "smart" be that dumb?

reggie (qualmsley), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 20:20 (nine years ago) link

as a general rule, you won't go too far wrong ignoring any political writer who was wrong on iraq in 2003

see also: jonathan chait

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 20:25 (nine years ago) link

I can't think of any political writer that was right on iraq in 2003 unless Seymour Hersh counts

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 20:27 (nine years ago) link

the general preponderance of willful ignorance and cynical opportunism was mind-blowing

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 20:28 (nine years ago) link

why does anyone care about andrew sullivan

iatee, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 20:31 (nine years ago) link

gay rightwingers are funny

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 20:32 (nine years ago) link

is there any issue on which he's still a rightwinger?

Mordy, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 20:32 (nine years ago) link

being 'a rightwinger who's not really a rightwinger' seems like such a great shortcut to undeserved attention

iatee, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 20:33 (nine years ago) link

yeah that was a cheap shot but after yesterday's political correctness bullshit he deserves it

xp

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 20:33 (nine years ago) link

is there any issue on which he's still a rightwinger?

― Mordy, Wednesday, January 28, 2015 2:32 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

charles murray

goole, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 20:36 (nine years ago) link

Most of his shit these days is aggregated, with the occasional splenetic outburst to remine people tbat he's a dick and his "A Prayer for Today" twaddle.

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 20:39 (nine years ago) link

Dude was editor of Thw New Republic during its 18th Brumaire phase; every mastheas Dem waa as conservative and insufferable as he.

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 20:42 (nine years ago) link

loves Obama, still a rightwinger

touch of a love-starved cobra (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 20:48 (nine years ago) link

Was gonna make that B- joke.

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 20:49 (nine years ago) link

i lol'd

goole, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 20:52 (nine years ago) link

is there any issue on which he's still a rightwinger?

― Mordy, Wednesday, January 28, 2015 8:32 PM (32 minutes ago)

uncritical adoration of ronald reagan?

or i dunno, maybe that's a bipartisan thing at this point

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 21:06 (nine years ago) link

the recent bell curve apologist stuff...

some dude, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 21:10 (nine years ago) link

The timing of this is really a slap in the face, just a year after going all in on this ad-free independent blogging model, touting himself as a model for others to follow.

Evan R, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 21:22 (nine years ago) link

And accepting a ton of money from readers to do so, right?

polyphonic, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 21:23 (nine years ago) link

Yup. Also for all his self-congratulatory posts about what a strong community his team and his readers have created, the truth is it's not strong enough to survive with out him and his distinct voice and perspective. There's no way that site will carry on as a reader-sustained, ad-free venture without him. It's over.

Evan R, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 21:24 (nine years ago) link

http://mashable.com/2013/01/03/andrew-sullivan-daily-dish-third-million/

Time to cash out, suckers!!

polyphonic, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 21:24 (nine years ago) link

wow that's crazy

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 21:29 (nine years ago) link

Happy Tenth Anniversary of Andrew Sullivan's Previous Blogging Hiatus

As you can see in the accompanying screenshot of Sullivan's Dish archives, in the nine months following Sullivan's 2005 announcement that he was stepping down from blogging, he updated The Dish 1,564 times.

Andrew Sullivan is not retiring from blogging.

http://tktk.gawker.com/happy-tenth-anniversary-of-andrew-sullivans-previous-bl-1682343500

touch of a love-starved cobra (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 21:31 (nine years ago) link

It's a lucrative gig and he's good at it, so yeah it doesn't seem unreasonable to speculate he'll be back. Especially if he remains financially vested in the Dish; the incentive to return to blog up the 2016 election has got to be huge.

Evan R, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 21:36 (nine years ago) link

people aren't gonna come back to his pay model after getting burned

iatee, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 21:37 (nine years ago) link

Not to get too speculative/cynical, but he could use this as his hiatus to parachute away from the dish, then return to blogging in the year to cover the elections for some other site that would probably pay much better. The hunger for election coverage is going to be huge, and I could see a few sites bringing him on as a renter the way NYtimes did Nate Silver

Evan R, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 21:43 (nine years ago) link

lmao the dean hits on what's really important

https://twitter.com/rxgau/status/560554662815076352

goole, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 21:48 (nine years ago) link

(yes that is from like 1min ago heh)

goole, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 21:48 (nine years ago) link

Checked in hourly during the last few months of the 2008 election. Not too often the past few years.

clemenza, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 21:49 (nine years ago) link

oh xgaupaws

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 21:52 (nine years ago) link

"he could crank it out ps eat shit"

goole, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 21:56 (nine years ago) link

Great now I'm gonna be singing "Fuck any pipsqueak" to the tune of "Climb Ev'ry Mountain" for the rest of the day

Guayaquil (eephus!), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 22:39 (nine years ago) link

"What does Robert Christgau do in bed? You know, is he a pipsqueak-fucker?"

salthigh, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 23:49 (nine years ago) link

Charles Pierce:

Andrew Sullivan has given up blogging again until he starts blogging again. (Too bad, I was hoping to be called a Fifth Columnist again, having been born too late for the Red Scare.) During the Chait-Coates dust-up, Sullivan chimed in with another defense of his tenure as editor, and another explanation of why the sourest bilge of scientific racism, spruced up by The New Republic for a new century, was worthy of debate. The fact is that TNR, which already was headed for Crazytown because it was owned by a bigot and a maniac, accelerated in that direction under his command. And it wasn't just The Bell Curve, either. It was Betsy McCaughey's tobacco-industry knob-gobbling hit-piece on Hillarycare. It was using Stephen Emerson, a crackpot so garish that even Fox News won't have him any more, to "debunk" the October Surprise story. It was he who was her editor when Shalit began to steal everything that wasn't nailed down from other publications. Her reward was to write a completely meretricious piece on affirmative action at The Washington Post. He also hired Stephen Glass, which turned out to be good for a laugh, anyway. (He seems to have been a little weak on the editing aspects of being an editor.) For those of us who watched what happened to that magazine, and who chafed under the entire notion that, on the big issues of the past 35 years, it had anything to say about progressive politics beyond the bacon-wrapped scallop liberalism of a very insular Beltway circle jerk, and who believed that political writing in this country could use a lot less TNR in its DNA, this has been a very good week.

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 30 January 2015 15:19 (nine years ago) link

the bacon-wrapped scallop liberalism of a very insular Beltway circle jerk

ok this lily is way gilded - circle jerks are insular by definition, no? - yet "bacon-wrapped liberalism" deserves enshrinement

in-house pickle program (m coleman), Friday, 30 January 2015 15:54 (nine years ago) link

jerks within jerks

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 30 January 2015 16:03 (nine years ago) link

depends on how big the circle is

mookieproof, Friday, 30 January 2015 16:03 (nine years ago) link

you could all be facing out i guess

goole, Friday, 30 January 2015 16:29 (nine years ago) link

take it the sex droughts thread, guys

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 30 January 2015 16:31 (nine years ago) link

Wow. Thanks, J.D. And I started reading the dear in 2001.

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 30 January 2015 18:52 (nine years ago) link

Here's what this man was posting in March 2003: http://dish.andrewsullivan.com/2003/03/page/3/

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 30 January 2015 18:58 (nine years ago) link


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