Eminem, unretired.

slim shady lp still holds up imo

― da croupier, Thursday, November 13, 2014 2:43 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

agreed

xp I haven't either. I mean, you can't know everything, but that seems like something that would go completely against everything I've ever heard about Kurt's relationships with/to women.

a big part of why threatening to punch lana del rey is so offensive & creepy is bc of lack of truth-value to his rapping any more imo ... it feels cynical, eminem-doing-eminem self parody & only the most gamergate of rap critics could defend it at this point ... that assumption that bc the PMRC was wrong in the late 80s that pop stars will always be right in visiting violence ... I would rather defend "Kim" because while that song is about violence towards women you actually feel the effect of it, like it's a super-uncomfortable song that alienates the listener rather than making the listener complicit in his brand of misogyny ... this stuff though, much like his last album's lyrics about driving over his ex and then paving over it, it feels like schtick

so cynical for 'giving the audience what it wants' ... more scary violence! but not finding it w/in himself, or something

xps to RM/RM, fair enough but I still think that ascribing eminem's toxicity arises from mere thoughtlessness is a ridiculous proposition, I mean it is just clearly not the case

it's pretty central to his character, it is who he is

that was a whole lot of the MMLP too. but it did have to do with a moment in time -- like he was doing this stuff on his earlier freestyles and it was just from that schoolyard who can be grosser/meaner/more violent/more over the top side, and then SSLP came out right in the middle of the TRL era and that voice, always in it just for shock & effect, found a whole new audience, and generated a big outrage cycle. Then MMLP came in and trolled it really effectively. But yeah, like a class clown or w/e he needs to be paid attention to to thrive. If he's just doing the same thing and nobody is doubling down on outrage, then the same gimmicks don't really fly again.

ok, so forgive the analogy here, but duchamp did lots of things in his career. he could only sign urinals for so long before it stopped being interesting.

oops mangled sentence xxp, swap out ascribing for claiming or sth

Funny that the most enduring song of his is probably the one with zero violence or pop culture, "Lose Yourself."

while i might give you violence but re: pop culture he breaks down in the last verse and notes the lack of mekhi phifer in his past

deej (and lots of other people) otm

yeah there's no way that the meaning of the lyrics isn't central to eminem and his persona; he's not exactly the cocteau twins of hip hop.

p.s. the cocteau twins of hip hop is chief keef

Future1

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xp to wins. OK fair point.

Nicely played by Iggy Azalea

http://www.vibe.com/article/eminem-jokes-about-raping-iggy-azalea?utm_source=sc-tw&utm_medium=ref&utm_campaign=Eminem

http://www.mensjournal.com/magazine/eminem-the-home-body-20150731

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O1OmWlmmXHI