pitchfork is dumb (#34985859340293849494 in a series.)

i highly recommend hearing the album on CD thru good speakers. if that's possible. sounds so friggin' cool. loud too. listen loud. they did a great job with the disc. kinda tempted to go buy the Future album just to hear it thru my big speakers at work. bet that would sound awesome.

i love the flow of the YG album.

YG/Future are amazing, but lets all just agree that RTJ2 is better

Every time someone posts that I think they're saying RJD2 and I'm like wha

i highly recommend hearing the album on CD thru good speakers. if that's possible. sounds so friggin' cool. loud too. listen loud. they did a great job with the disc. kinda tempted to go buy the Future album just to hear it thru my big speakers at work. bet that would sound awesome.

― scott seward, Tuesday, November 11, 2014 12:38 PM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark

yeah the first time i heard it was at def jam's offices thru some $10,000 soundsystem or something and even tho i thought my ears might bleed it sounded unreal good, "left right" especially

i mean the legacy of rap albums that sag because ill-fitting R&B songs are shoehorned into the tracklist is obvious?

it's def obvious, just never really dug it - not due to any anti-r&b feelings of mine but more due to those "ladies" tracks almost invariably not being in the skill set of the rappers who were dumping them on their records. as another awful recent example, consider "touch'n you" on rick ross's god forgives i don't. yikes. (not that that album isn't flawed for other reasons, prominently wale)

yeah the bass sounds so huge on good speakers

ha, i literally just finally got round to RTJ2 and didn't get the fuss at all, found it drab and extremely unfun

i get the vibe of what yg was going for with the r&b trax but i don't think the songs are really there and i don't care about teeflii or tory lanez as performers or lyricists even a tiny bit

they both have sort of anaemic non-voices

ok i'll grant you that position -- i like that they're sort of floaty and barely there because those songs are really all about the beats anyway

i felt bad about dismissing the new rtj so i actually went and listened to some of the first album and i liked it more now. mainly for the sound/beats. i've always kinda wished that el-p just did outside production for other people and never rapped. making cool noises has always been his main strength.

i like that they're sort of floaty and barely there

― J0rdan S., Tuesday, November 11, 2014 5:56 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

so in character

like, if it were just a killer mike album with el-p silently producing the whole thing i would totally buy it.

i feel like el-p's beats on RTJ2 aren't even that great (unlike RTJ1) this time

gangsta boo popping up is the best moment obv, she's having this incredible year that no one's paying attention to

i like that they're sort of floaty and barely there

― J0rdan S., Tuesday, November 11, 2014 5:56 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

so in character

― lex pretend, Tuesday, November 11, 2014 12:58 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark

i will also grant you this position

like, if it were just a killer mike album with el-p silently producing the whole thing i would totally buy it.

― scott seward, Tuesday, November 11, 2014 11:59 AM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

skot - R.A.P. Music by Killer Mike is exactly that!

ha, i literally just finally got round to RTJ2 and didn't get the fuss at all, found it drab and extremely unfun

― lex pretend, Tuesday, November 11, 2014 12:48 PM (32 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

game recognize game

Lol

man i ran out and missed a decent mini-discussion of 'krazy' ... everyone pretty much otm on both sides. the r&b songs are fine for what they are, certainly better than most shoehorned r&b tracks on rap albums ... and i can vibe w/ me & my bitch, but do it to ya stinks. i appreciate their role in the album's narrative, but both singers are underwhelming.

absolutely no question, though, that having those two songs in a row is the weak point of the album.

surprised no one here wants to push the DJ Quik out as best of the year rap album as well; i thought i was on ilx

I would not argue for votes to RTJ2, YG, Gene the Southern Child, A-Wax, isaiah rashad or shabazz palaces

i would also lean into cormega, lacrae, clipping, black milk, freddie gibbs, iamsu, schoolboy, snootie wild and i'd imagine the joey bada$$ and e40 albums are gonna be up there too.

i do need to work in z-ro and gangsta boo's album. what else?

'me and my bitch' is awesome, feels like needed melodic respite & works as a reference to old cali street rap history w/out being heavyhanded by making it R&B

the pitchfork thread is probably the most embarrassing thread to have a conversation about rap album of the year

well yeah but there's only like twelve guys posting on the rap thread and i know their opinions of THE YEAR IN MUSIC as well as I'm gonna by now. cross pollinate a little.

i don't really care where i am on here. it's all the same to me.

i only talk about music now - for the most part - in a facebook group i'm in but nobody talks about rap there.

a group started by a Pitchfork writer! to bring things 'round the bend...

surprised no one here wants to push the DJ Quik out as best of the year rap album as well; i thought i was on ilx

this has surprisingly not stuck with me, i did love it on first listen but...

went through my krazy life in full again. "me & my bitch" is better than i initially gave it credit for though i stand by its interruption of the album.

"do it to ya" still sucks. its terrible. strangely, the skit part isn't what ruins it - wouldn't be that bad if not for the "bed" sound effects sounding more like a squeaky dog toy than a bed. tee flii simply can't fuckin sing and YG doesn't sell the loverman thing that well. he's no gates.

from today's Smashing Pumpkins review:

Drummer Mike Byrne has been replaced by someone nearly 30 years his senior in Tommy Lee, best known as the frontman for the rap-metal latecomers Methods of Mayhem and skinsman for a popular hair metal concern.

I mean, I'm all for clowning on Tommy Lee's embarrassing career turns and all, but lol @ this sentence.

Tommy Lee is a whopping two years older than Jimmy Chamberlin.

xpost I WAS GONNA POST THAT EXACT SENTENCE AFTER READING THAT THIS MORNING! weird.

"Johnny Marr, best known as a touring guitarist for Modest Mouse from 2006-2009 and playing with a well regarded 80s indie rock band."

a popular hair metal concern of no conceivable significance who have sold over 100 million albums

gonna take a wild guess that sentence was intended as 'a joke'

pretty sure I can confirm that this 'joke', 'fell flat', as they say

seeing as it was written by ian cohen, this is unsurprising, yet still highly zing-worthy

definitely was a joke, this revive is so stupid

some dude otm. the fact that they achieved worldwide fame and massive success IS THE JOKE.

a joke that happens 20 times on the internet every day, probably, but this is p4k, so...

fwiw, I got the "joke", it was an incredibly awkwardly constructed joke. but it's been awhile since I've specifically had one of my posts called out as "stupid", so thanks for that, I guess.

i thought that dude from rage was the new pumpkins drummer. guess not.

just for a couple of shows, with the bassist from the killers. Corgan's really into bringing in random alt-rocker weirdos now.

Yeah, well remember Zwan?

I wish he'd go back to those weirdos! I'd take Paz, Pajo or Sweeney over any of these dudes.

zwan might was well have been a pumpkins album at this point.

DON: Well, yeah.

zwan weirdos a.k.a. dudes from bands way better than smashing pumpkins

for sure

xp just to be clear we're saying a perfect circle (paz lechantin) was better than the smashing pumpkins? bc in some ways i do think that...

(assessment is otm regardless due to those other folks)

sloth do you listen to Chavez?

you showed me them IRL and i have listened here and there & liked what i heard, they are not currently in my regular rotation