Joni Mitchell: Classic or Dud

I love Jaco's bass. Anyone who says otherwise should not be trusted on anything.

― Tim F, Wednesday, December 26, 2012 8:22 PM (1 year ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yes!

Jaco's alright if you like bass farts

I fucking hate Jaco, will never mature out of that opinion. He's where I draw the line.

my wife told me she couldn't handle hissing of the summer lawns this weekend and i was like :^0

hurting i guess you do not like hejira or don juan's reckless daughter then

and i think you makes just a lil fucked up tbqf

I love "Dreamland" so goddamn much that I almost never play anything else off that record

and i think *that you makes *you just a lil fucked up tbqf

sorry about typos i need to make this message clear

Hurting otm

I'm not a Jaco fan either, but I love Hejira.

Couldn't make it through Mingus, though.

mingus is not as good on first listen but i could see myself developing some kind of affection for it

and yes dreamland is WONDERFUL xp

Hejira is pretty much the only place I can tolerate Jaco, and barely. Actually there are one or two Weather Report tunes I like him on, but overall nope. BYOW BYOW BYOOOOWWWW

hey, do that again. i liked that.

yea!

Posted this on the Ron Sexsmith thread -- interesting to see later Joni covered.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UUDUCcOPFE0

yeah a little jaco goes a long way but joni deploys him beautifully. i'd also recommend his work on the pat metheny-led album "bright size life." aside from those, yes, i can see how his technique can grate.

I just generally hate the sound of fretless bass. the tone of it. there are a few dudes who get a pass on it because they employ it so strangely (Colin Moulding etc.) but it's a small bunch

amateurist otm re: bright size life. Such a good album!

it was recommended to me on ILM, maybe even on this very thread.

Some fairly wide-ranging Mitchell show tapes incl. Larry Klein having no prob w Jaco-associated songs, while not trying to imitate him (also no difficulty with songs from other eras).
Metheny Group could be good, though I like him better with Haden etc. on 80/81 and Rejoicing, also w Ornette on Song X (also good w Gary Burton)

I really liked Jaco's s/t solo debut. Really haven't latched on to anything else by him though, including the Mitchell work.

Yeah, that solo album is pretty funky. Sam + Dave and Herbie Hancock cameos help.

Bright Size Life is great and captures a lot of the same vibe as Hejira

Joni on Car(e)y:
http://online.wsj.com/articles/the-muse-behind-joni-mitchells-carey-1415721658

wonderful image too

http://si.wsj.net/public/resources/images/AR-AH807_JONI_12S_20141111102702.jpg

and an interview with Cary himself!
http://online.wsj.com/articles/when-joni-mitchell-met-cary-raditz-her-mean-old-daddy-1415721367?tesla=y

great article! xxp

yea both of those were really great

https://crete.wordpress.com/2008/02/26/joni-michell-in-matala-crete/

Mark Deming reviews new, def artist's-choice box set (think some audio excerpts too but haven't had time to check): http://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/love-has-many-faces-a-quartet-a-ballet-waiting-to-be-danced-joni-mitchell/28316633?ean=81227957858

Cover is also self-portrait, I think I read:

http://img1.imagesbn.com/p/81227957858_p0_v1_s600.JPG

Figured bump would be for
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/joni-mitchell-will-not-allow-taylor-swift-to-play-her/

I said to the producer, 'All you've got is a girl with high cheekbones'....RAWR!

Who should play Joni would be an interesting game to play

She doesn't conform to the standards required to be met by anyone you've heard of.

Jenny Lewis is probably too old

A Joni biopic has so much potential for bathos, maybe it just shouldn't ever happen

Maybe if it were just the Cary/Carey experience? I wanna go to that island. Keira Knightley could do it (the island thing didn't involve much campfire chirping, seems like; could just use soundtrack of the original J)

K wouldn't be too old for that-era J

You know, like the one about the Beatles as Hamburg house band, or when John and Brian Epstein took a vacation together.

I thought the bump would be for that awful open letter by Dave Bidini (non-Canadians and anyone under the age of 25 go "who?") that's basically "why don't you smile, lady? ps why do u h8 John Lennon"

hey what can you folks tell me about post-70s joni?

what should i a seek out? listening to wild things run fast right now and i can dig it tbh

If you like Wild Things from the get-go, you may be well served just working through it all, you'll probably find a fair amount of interest in every record.

Night Ride Home (from 1991) is best though.

Re box set & all sides now, cool li'l interview this morning. Think there's more tomorrow:

http://www.npr.org/2014/12/08/369276288/after-decades-of-success-shes-still-just-a-painter-who-writes-songs

"man to man" from wild things is great, uses the new 80s production and style pretty successfully imo

I definitely rep for Wild Things, Taming and Night Ride (the latter two especially). Also, Shine is somewhat underrated, if occasionally overly serious and didactic (even for Joni)

and by "underrated" I mean among the kinda people who post to ILX. It was her best selling album since Hejira iirc