pitchfork is dumb (#34985859340293849494 in a series.)

totally good stuff on here:

http://pitchfork.com/features/the-out-door/9521-overlooked-experimental-records-2014/

was debating buying that naked island LP on discogs just the other day. one of the dudes from starving weirdos who i love a ton.

yeah the out door is great! definitely one of my favorite things on the internet.

but maybe that belongs on the pitchfork is OK! (#34985859340293849494 in a series.) thread

i went to the chain store across the street this morning to get barrel brothers album and step brothers album and they didn't have either one cuz they are SO LAME!! lamest store on earth. total Deviant Type Titans over there in that mess. so, i did end up getting the YG on cd and i'm glad i did cuz it sounds amazing on cd and on my big-ass tandy-brand foghat speakers. and i got schoolboy q at a reduced price. but not the deluxe edition. i ain't going on no fuckin' amazon for some skyzoo. kinda one of the only minuses about living around here. maple syrup up the ass but no skyzoo in sight.

the bonus tracks on that schoolboy record aren't any good (the album itself is v enjoyable and great in places), so no loss there

yeah figured as much. and the schoolboy album is great, but i wanted to hear this on my big speakerz:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5aWWdMBrtA0

i need that

Yeah I loved that Overlooked Experimental column <3 <3

p4k is druuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuunk giving this azealia banks album an 8 i gotta say

this is otm:

xpost that YG record would be borderline perfect if not for "do it to ya" and "me & my bitch" - former bc it's hot trash and latter is just super meh and it being sequenced after "do it" almost irreperably fucks the momentum of the album in the gallbladder but fortunately "who do you love" is there to save the day

― ichabron crames (slothroprhymes)

still the rap record of the year, tho, unless RTJ overtakes it in these last two months. hard to imagine that happening; i played "Krazy" almost nonstop all summer

a-wax is up there for me, but it's kind of depressing to play all the time

^^ need to hear that

admittedly, YG is a standout in a rough year for rap albums

xpost that YG record would be borderline perfect if not for "do it to ya" and "me & my bitch" - former bc it's hot trash and latter is just super meh and it being sequenced after "do it" almost irreperably fucks the momentum of the album in the gallbladder but fortunately "who do you love" is there to save the day
― ichabron crames (slothroprhymes)

this is an extremely wrong opinion -- one of the reasons why the album is so strong is because the R&B tracks are incredible

wut, i mean "me & my bitch" isn't bad, per se, just kinda a step down whereas idk how much syrup was consumed to make "do it to ya" sound like a good idea imo

i havent listened to krazy life all the way through - w/o skipping those tracks - in a while tho, so a reevaluation in full is in order

i agree with slothrop, what is incredible about the r&b tracks? they're so boring. rest of the album is what's excellent

i should've said that they're incredible for being obvious for-the-ladies tracks, but they're also just very good songs in their own right. you guys really can't vibe to "me & my bitch" what the hell? both of those songs are classic smooth summer songs.

in a sense YG lucked out that mustardwave has encompassed thugged out male R&B singing, it really keeps 'my krazy life' afloat and fits right in the tone of the album. i mean the legacy of rap albums that sag because ill-fitting R&B songs are shoehorned into the tracklist is obvious? "do it to ya" & "me & my bitch" remind me of how t.i. snuck "why you wanna" into 'king' (except times 2)

i highly recommend hearing the album on CD thru good speakers. if that's possible. sounds so friggin' cool. loud too. listen loud. they did a great job with the disc. kinda tempted to go buy the Future album just to hear it thru my big speakers at work. bet that would sound awesome.

i love the flow of the YG album.

YG/Future are amazing, but lets all just agree that RTJ2 is better

Every time someone posts that I think they're saying RJD2 and I'm like wha

i highly recommend hearing the album on CD thru good speakers. if that's possible. sounds so friggin' cool. loud too. listen loud. they did a great job with the disc. kinda tempted to go buy the Future album just to hear it thru my big speakers at work. bet that would sound awesome.

― scott seward, Tuesday, November 11, 2014 12:38 PM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark

yeah the first time i heard it was at def jam's offices thru some $10,000 soundsystem or something and even tho i thought my ears might bleed it sounded unreal good, "left right" especially

i mean the legacy of rap albums that sag because ill-fitting R&B songs are shoehorned into the tracklist is obvious?

it's def obvious, just never really dug it - not due to any anti-r&b feelings of mine but more due to those "ladies" tracks almost invariably not being in the skill set of the rappers who were dumping them on their records. as another awful recent example, consider "touch'n you" on rick ross's god forgives i don't. yikes. (not that that album isn't flawed for other reasons, prominently wale)

yeah the bass sounds so huge on good speakers

ha, i literally just finally got round to RTJ2 and didn't get the fuss at all, found it drab and extremely unfun

i get the vibe of what yg was going for with the r&b trax but i don't think the songs are really there and i don't care about teeflii or tory lanez as performers or lyricists even a tiny bit

they both have sort of anaemic non-voices

ok i'll grant you that position -- i like that they're sort of floaty and barely there because those songs are really all about the beats anyway

i felt bad about dismissing the new rtj so i actually went and listened to some of the first album and i liked it more now. mainly for the sound/beats. i've always kinda wished that el-p just did outside production for other people and never rapped. making cool noises has always been his main strength.

i like that they're sort of floaty and barely there

― J0rdan S., Tuesday, November 11, 2014 5:56 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

so in character

like, if it were just a killer mike album with el-p silently producing the whole thing i would totally buy it.

i feel like el-p's beats on RTJ2 aren't even that great (unlike RTJ1) this time

gangsta boo popping up is the best moment obv, she's having this incredible year that no one's paying attention to

i like that they're sort of floaty and barely there

― J0rdan S., Tuesday, November 11, 2014 5:56 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

so in character

― lex pretend, Tuesday, November 11, 2014 12:58 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark

i will also grant you this position

like, if it were just a killer mike album with el-p silently producing the whole thing i would totally buy it.

― scott seward, Tuesday, November 11, 2014 11:59 AM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

skot - R.A.P. Music by Killer Mike is exactly that!

ha, i literally just finally got round to RTJ2 and didn't get the fuss at all, found it drab and extremely unfun

― lex pretend, Tuesday, November 11, 2014 12:48 PM (32 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

game recognize game

Lol

man i ran out and missed a decent mini-discussion of 'krazy' ... everyone pretty much otm on both sides. the r&b songs are fine for what they are, certainly better than most shoehorned r&b tracks on rap albums ... and i can vibe w/ me & my bitch, but do it to ya stinks. i appreciate their role in the album's narrative, but both singers are underwhelming.

absolutely no question, though, that having those two songs in a row is the weak point of the album.

surprised no one here wants to push the DJ Quik out as best of the year rap album as well; i thought i was on ilx

I would not argue for votes to RTJ2, YG, Gene the Southern Child, A-Wax, isaiah rashad or shabazz palaces

i would also lean into cormega, lacrae, clipping, black milk, freddie gibbs, iamsu, schoolboy, snootie wild and i'd imagine the joey bada$$ and e40 albums are gonna be up there too.

i do need to work in z-ro and gangsta boo's album. what else?

'me and my bitch' is awesome, feels like needed melodic respite & works as a reference to old cali street rap history w/out being heavyhanded by making it R&B

the pitchfork thread is probably the most embarrassing thread to have a conversation about rap album of the year

well yeah but there's only like twelve guys posting on the rap thread and i know their opinions of THE YEAR IN MUSIC as well as I'm gonna by now. cross pollinate a little.

i don't really care where i am on here. it's all the same to me.

i only talk about music now - for the most part - in a facebook group i'm in but nobody talks about rap there.

a group started by a Pitchfork writer! to bring things 'round the bend...

surprised no one here wants to push the DJ Quik out as best of the year rap album as well; i thought i was on ilx

this has surprisingly not stuck with me, i did love it on first listen but...

went through my krazy life in full again. "me & my bitch" is better than i initially gave it credit for though i stand by its interruption of the album.

"do it to ya" still sucks. its terrible. strangely, the skit part isn't what ruins it - wouldn't be that bad if not for the "bed" sound effects sounding more like a squeaky dog toy than a bed. tee flii simply can't fuckin sing and YG doesn't sell the loverman thing that well. he's no gates.

from today's Smashing Pumpkins review:

Drummer Mike Byrne has been replaced by someone nearly 30 years his senior in Tommy Lee, best known as the frontman for the rap-metal latecomers Methods of Mayhem and skinsman for a popular hair metal concern.

I mean, I'm all for clowning on Tommy Lee's embarrassing career turns and all, but lol @ this sentence.

Tommy Lee is a whopping two years older than Jimmy Chamberlin.

xpost I WAS GONNA POST THAT EXACT SENTENCE AFTER READING THAT THIS MORNING! weird.

"Johnny Marr, best known as a touring guitarist for Modest Mouse from 2006-2009 and playing with a well regarded 80s indie rock band."

a popular hair metal concern of no conceivable significance who have sold over 100 million albums

gonna take a wild guess that sentence was intended as 'a joke'