Spotify - anyone heard of it?

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OTOH 85% of groovy Italian schlock soundtracks are represented so who gives a twat about crappy American soundtracks.

Threat Assessment Division (I M Losted), Wednesday, 29 October 2014 18:21 (nine years ago) link

1989 isn't available so spotify should just quit imo

$0.00 Butter sauce only. No marinara. (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 29 October 2014 18:45 (nine years ago) link

it was a good run

$0.00 Butter sauce only. No marinara. (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 29 October 2014 18:45 (nine years ago) link

Red wasn't on there for a full calendar year and we all survived.

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 29 October 2014 18:46 (nine years ago) link

most of us anyway

$0.00 Butter sauce only. No marinara. (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 29 October 2014 18:49 (nine years ago) link

I will wait until christmas when someone will def give me a starbucks gift card. I will then buy the album at starbucks with the gift card.

$0.00 Butter sauce only. No marinara. (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 29 October 2014 18:52 (nine years ago) link

Dumb 1989 is better

you walk on the street, grab the rock (President Keyes), Wednesday, 29 October 2014 18:54 (nine years ago) link

$9.99 auto-rip from amazon is tempting, but then they're going to send me a cd! why don't they just offer the album digitally for $9.99?! what a disaster for the environment.

$0.00 Butter sauce only. No marinara. (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 29 October 2014 19:03 (nine years ago) link

YouTube has the acetates of yer grandad farting in the bathroom, with all of the attendant good and evil about that...

I know this absolutely ACE garage rock album wasn't on Spotify in its entirety about six mod ago, so:

http://open.spotify.com/album/2rPBcCdWIUOo8iJ85Ks5Ed

Now you can hear We the People's "My Brother the Man"! And other fuzz punk gems!

Threat Assessment Division (I M Losted), Wednesday, 29 October 2014 19:22 (nine years ago) link

is it true that apps are due to be killed?

not sure how i'm going to live without the blue note app :(

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Saturday, 1 November 2014 18:47 (nine years ago) link

what apps do you mean?

socki (s1ocki), Sunday, 2 November 2014 05:31 (nine years ago) link

I never really understood the apps but I usually just construct playlists like Albums Released in April of 1965

you walk on the street, grab the rock (President Keyes), Sunday, 2 November 2014 14:29 (nine years ago) link

Giggle play's interface is so ugly, I'm tempted to switch back to spotify on aesthetics alone.

calstars, Sunday, 2 November 2014 23:53 (nine years ago) link

so Taylor Swift pulled all of her albums, eh?

$0.00 Butter sauce only. No marinara. (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 3 November 2014 17:47 (nine years ago) link

I understand what pulling all streaming could do for an artist/label, but I don't get the singling out of spotify. I am just going to listen to Taylor Swift's old albums on rdio now. But I will continue to use spotify for everything else.

$0.00 Butter sauce only. No marinara. (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 3 November 2014 18:16 (nine years ago) link

well it could obviously do something for her if she's in negotiations with them

socki (s1ocki), Monday, 3 November 2014 18:23 (nine years ago) link

dunno how effective an embargo is when there's plenty of other legal sources for what you're withholding

$0.00 Butter sauce only. No marinara. (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 3 November 2014 18:34 (nine years ago) link

I guess I'm assuming that inciting spotify user outrage with spotify is the main play here. I don't know how much spotify makes off of plays from Swift's back catalog.

$0.00 Butter sauce only. No marinara. (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 3 November 2014 18:35 (nine years ago) link

her new album sold more in one week than any other album has sold all year. it's very possible this is about driving up catalog sales by not letting spotify placate those who lost some earlier album on a broken ipod or whatever. or maybe they're trying to squeeze an advance out spotify, like the ones given up to get catalogs from rhcp, metallica, etc. it is funny that it's still on beats and the rest, but those services have far fewer subscribers

da croupier, Monday, 3 November 2014 18:38 (nine years ago) link

yeah not everyone is an streaming-service-savvy internet music nerd like we are, and a lot of those ppl wd probably spend $10 to hear her album if it wasnt on spotty

socki (s1ocki), Monday, 3 November 2014 20:26 (nine years ago) link

what's funny to me is that i'd usually argue album artists would benefit from putting singles on spotify, which is what artists like coldplay, black keys and beyonce have done, using the service like a jukebox/radio rather than a replacement for album sales. but in taylor's case she doesn't even need spotify as a promotional device - there's no debate that people will pay for it.

da croupier, Monday, 3 November 2014 20:31 (nine years ago) link

i mean, if you removed all but two-four songs from each album on spotify you'd still have an INSANE amount of music to play with, that's more than worth 5 dollars. only now record nerds and big fans would be forced to spend more than 5 dollars for the total package.

da croupier, Monday, 3 November 2014 20:33 (nine years ago) link

xpost:

Indeed, my ears always seem to be paying for it!

Welcome To (Turrican), Monday, 3 November 2014 20:34 (nine years ago) link

maybe taylor swift has an exclusive contract with beats?

strychnine, Monday, 3 November 2014 20:37 (nine years ago) link

that's definitely a potential outcome, esp considering taylor herself hasn't made any big political statement re all this, just big machine

da croupier, Monday, 3 November 2014 20:38 (nine years ago) link

good way to kill the competitors for the paymaster?

strychnine, Monday, 3 November 2014 20:40 (nine years ago) link

its so obvious why someone of her stature WOULD do this that it seems weird she'd ever consider putting her stuff on spotify at all

socki (s1ocki), Monday, 3 November 2014 20:41 (nine years ago) link

well as with metallica, rhcp, the john lennon estate, the advance might make it worth her while.

what's funny about any degree of backlash beyond "aw man my playlist went grey. rats." is i don't know why anyone would begrudge her maximizing her revenue from albums, as it's yet to be any worse than "you have to pay normal album price to get the album." it's just some people in 3 years decided they were entitled to all music ever for the monthly price of a happy meal.

da croupier, Monday, 3 November 2014 20:44 (nine years ago) link

also while it's still profitable to stick to cds and mp3s, if streaming becomes the standard eventually you won't have fans with mp3/cd players.

da croupier, Monday, 3 November 2014 20:45 (nine years ago) link

hold-outs like bob seger clearly control their rights contractually, i'm curious whether coldplay, the black keys, etc actually do or if their labels do the real weighing of the matter. like if peter buck was like "fuck spotify, pull rem albums off streaming" could warner bros be like "no, your used cds sell for a buck asshole, we'll take the pennies where we can?" with labels having equity in spotify they might be judicious about which acts get to be singles-only and which have their album sales sacrificed for the good of the eventual ipo.

da croupier, Monday, 3 November 2014 20:49 (nine years ago) link

david byrne has said he can't legally remove talking heads albums but he would if he could

da croupier, Monday, 3 November 2014 20:52 (nine years ago) link

what's funny about any degree of backlash beyond "aw man my playlist went grey. rats." is i don't know why anyone would begrudge her maximizing her revenue from albums, as it's yet to be any worse than "you have to pay normal album price to get the album." it's just some people in 3 years decided they were entitled to all music ever for the monthly price of a happy meal.

it's just some people in 330 years decided they were entitled tostuck paying $15-25 for all musican album

$0.00 Butter sauce only. No marinara. (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 3 November 2014 21:04 (nine years ago) link

hope the apps don't go away

the Blue Note app is one of the most awesome thing's that's been done in digital distribution of music

There Goes Ryan's Scion (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 3 November 2014 21:07 (nine years ago) link

it's just some people in 330 years decided they were entitled tostuck paying $15-25 for all musican album

― $0.00 Butter sauce only. No marinara. (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, November 3, 2014 3:04 PM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

^^this really isn't fair it's not as if they haven't been doing much lower price points on itunes, amazon, and google music. i've DL'd new releases for $2 or gotten old catalog stuff for $5 all the time

There Goes Ryan's Scion (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 3 November 2014 21:10 (nine years ago) link

Yeah I mean if swift says her albums will now cost 25 bucks then yes I would say that sucks

da croupier, Monday, 3 November 2014 21:17 (nine years ago) link

the Blue Note app is one of the most awesome thing's that's been done in digital distribution of music

― There Goes Ryan's Scion (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, November 3, 2014 4:07 PM (11 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

describe?

socki (s1ocki), Monday, 3 November 2014 21:25 (nine years ago) link

well that looks incredible.

socki (s1ocki), Monday, 3 November 2014 22:10 (nine years ago) link

What struck me was how innovative Jimmy Smith was

Spotify learnt me this too

example (crüt), Monday, 3 November 2014 22:12 (nine years ago) link

im not sure how to install any of these apps?

socki (s1ocki), Monday, 3 November 2014 22:14 (nine years ago) link

oic never mind, took spotify a second to realize i had already downloaded the desktop client

socki (s1ocki), Monday, 3 November 2014 22:17 (nine years ago) link

genuine astonishment at this blue note app

Raccoon Tanuki, Monday, 3 November 2014 22:24 (nine years ago) link

yes but why do you hate it

Steve 'n' Seagulls and Flock of Van Dammes (forksclovetofu), Monday, 3 November 2014 22:29 (nine years ago) link

im genuinely bummed that it looks like this after being open for 10 minutes lalready

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/366364/Screenshots/yxav.png

socki (s1ocki), Monday, 3 November 2014 22:35 (nine years ago) link

Daniel Ek feels put upon.

https://news.spotify.com/us/2014/11/11/2-billion-and-counting/

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 11 November 2014 14:59 (nine years ago) link

he talks like the alternative to spotify is 100% piracy

koogs, Tuesday, 11 November 2014 15:20 (nine years ago) link

i don't understand why youtube isn't coming up in any of these discussions

maura, Tuesday, 11 November 2014 15:34 (nine years ago) link

tl;dr version

1. the music industry was corrupt long before we gave it 25% ownership of our company, don't blame us if you signed a shitty deal.
2. most tech companies exploiting the music industry don't give it anything, our deal is WAY better than The Pirate Bay.
3. if we don't sound good as a revenue replacement for music purchases, pretend we're just a revenue replacement for radio. That also replaces music purchases. Not that we do! I mean, we might when if we get to the projected user rate we use to suggest one can survive on the royalties we give. But we haven't yet! Also Pirate Bay.

da croupier, Tuesday, 11 November 2014 15:44 (nine years ago) link

Feel like that whole thing was a dog whistle for bigger artists to hit them up for some equity/advance before they go whining

da croupier, Tuesday, 11 November 2014 15:45 (nine years ago) link

It's difficult for me to feel I'm contributing to the evils of Spotify considering that I still buy upwards of 50 physical CDs a year

the farakhan of gg (DJP), Tuesday, 11 November 2014 16:06 (nine years ago) link


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