Why is casual racism/sexism more accepted in video games than other forms of media (these days)?

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yes

raccoon shipoopi (how's life), Monday, 27 October 2014 13:41 (nine years ago) link

What Neil said

Sam Kriss @sam_kriss · 2h 2 hours ago
ahahaha i'm getting unironic rts from gamergate for posting one of their stupid bios

my jaw left (Hurting 2), Monday, 27 October 2014 13:46 (nine years ago) link

Yeah I think he's joking

Sam Kriss @sam_kriss · 1h 1 hour ago
Passionate About Pixels. Frontline #GamerGate Soldier. I Googled Bell Hooks Once So Don't You DARE Try To Tell Me What Sexism Is.

Nhex, Monday, 27 October 2014 13:47 (nine years ago) link

hahaha

kissaroo and Tyler, too (DJP), Monday, 27 October 2014 13:54 (nine years ago) link

Mike Cernovich ‏@PlayDangerously 14h14 hours ago
An anonymous tipster in PR informed me Gawker is engaging in astroturfing. Many of the loudest anti-#GamerGate proponents are on payroll.

lag∞n, Monday, 27 October 2014 14:09 (nine years ago) link

the rabbit hole goes even deeper than I imagined

my jaw left (Hurting 2), Monday, 27 October 2014 14:11 (nine years ago) link

Deepthroat to Cernovich's Woodward & Bernstein

Barry Gordy (Neil S), Monday, 27 October 2014 14:11 (nine years ago) link

So weird that the right wing response these days is the classic Pee Wee Herman "I know you are but what am I?" defense

Nhex, Monday, 27 October 2014 14:12 (nine years ago) link

Many people who disagree with GamerGate work for a company. Indeed, there is troubling evidence that suggests huge swaths of those who disagree with GamerGate work for one or more companies. I can't disclose my sources lest they be overtaken by the firestorm this post will produce. But worry not, dear reader, I'll keep reporting until they silence me.

Doctor Casino, Monday, 27 October 2014 14:16 (nine years ago) link

Let's send investigators to San Juan and Ponce, smoke this tipster out once and for all.

kissaroo and Tyler, too (DJP), Monday, 27 October 2014 14:59 (nine years ago) link

expressed as a percentage how likely is it that the tipster is a. playing a prank b. fictional

lag∞n, Monday, 27 October 2014 15:39 (nine years ago) link

'i'm fighting for ethics in journalism! that's why i'm posting unsourced bullshit on twitter!'

bizarro gazzara, Monday, 27 October 2014 15:41 (nine years ago) link

To all appearances, snl did not in fact do a gamergate sketch this weekend.

raccoon shipoopi (how's life), Monday, 27 October 2014 15:47 (nine years ago) link

clearly the threats of #gamergate reprisals cowed them into submission

bizarro gazzara, Monday, 27 October 2014 15:48 (nine years ago) link

A PR guy told me that ALL of the SNL skits were really about gamergate

you walk on the street, grab the rock (President Keyes), Monday, 27 October 2014 15:54 (nine years ago) link

that's how the liberal media works

Nhex, Monday, 27 October 2014 15:57 (nine years ago) link

A PR guy told me that ALL of the SNL skits were really about gamergate

actually the skits were about ethics in gaming journalism

Clay, Monday, 27 October 2014 16:08 (nine years ago) link

^ the moment the joke died

my jaw left (Hurting 2), Monday, 27 October 2014 16:10 (nine years ago) link

smh

mookieproof, Monday, 27 October 2014 16:28 (nine years ago) link

in the end, i'd like to by sympathetic to gg WAIT WAIT HEAR ME OUT i'm sure the "gaming press" is "corrupt" (no shots to anyone present) in that, to my eyes, it has the same relationship to the games industry that fashion mags to the clothing industry or car mags to the auto industry. there's a thin slice of good writing and history and industry investigation and a huge block of heycheckitout PR

but you look at this thing, over the past several weeks, what they've done, their language, and it's like heeey why does your internet crusade seem to pick up the internet's worst people? why did it, in plain blank fact, start with them?

i mean:

https://twitter.com/tinybaby/status/526771179861073920

caucasity and the sundance kid (goole), Monday, 27 October 2014 16:36 (nine years ago) link

who are the people who led the charge against anita sarkeesian before this gg bullshit had a name?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nsdIHK8O5yo

warning: anglo cheeky affect, gross shit. kinda funny tho

caucasity and the sundance kid (goole), Monday, 27 October 2014 16:38 (nine years ago) link

xp

yeah but their crusade is not about that type of actual industry capture at all, it's about uncovering the "vast SJW conspiracy"

anonanon, Monday, 27 October 2014 16:40 (nine years ago) link

yes exactly

caucasity and the sundance kid (goole), Monday, 27 October 2014 16:41 (nine years ago) link

have we done davis aurini's men's rights / martial arts short movie itt yet? it's incredible

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uJSGc2ylZe4

bizarro gazzara, Monday, 27 October 2014 16:41 (nine years ago) link

oh... oh my god

caucasity and the sundance kid (goole), Monday, 27 October 2014 16:44 (nine years ago) link

tommy wiseau would weep

bizarro gazzara, Monday, 27 October 2014 16:46 (nine years ago) link

made with a $10k grant from the canadian government. thx canada!

bizarro gazzara, Monday, 27 October 2014 16:47 (nine years ago) link

i'm sure the "gaming press" is "corrupt" (no shots to anyone present) in that, to my eyes, it has the same relationship to the games industry that fashion mags to the clothing industry or car mags to the auto industry. there's a thin slice of good writing and history and industry investigation and a huge block of heycheckitout PR

seriously what the fuck do people want? y'all motherfuckers love to see new screenshots, new little bits of info, new trailers, etc etc, that's what YOU FUCKING CLICK okay? So sorry there's no way to dress up like a janitor and sneak into a company and steal a build...

number two, and people don't want to hear this but it's sometimes really fucking irresponsible to write off a game based on a preview...alien isolation looked liked a 10/10 in the months running up, turned out somewhat disappointing.....uncharted, on my honor, looked like a FUCKING MESS the E3 prior to release....the last deus ex which turned out pretty cool look like actual feces when we saw it...

the fact is that games are fucking super complicated and some games that look great early never develop, some games look like a hot mess and they throw 700 ppl on them in the last 6 months and they turn out great!

you can talk about fundamental probz or concerns with design, and possible technical shit that may be a concern of not getting fixed, but it's hard, they can implement some new physics on something or new textures or new camera shit and it can break a whole bunch of stuff.....

so i'm sorry but i see ppl say this shit a lot and in my experience it's good to express concerns about stuff that could be issues moving forward but it's honestly hard to tell how shit turns out IMO.

if anyone could show me a form of entertainment journalism that's ever been PRIMARILY investigative i'd love to see it

u2 removal machine (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 27 October 2014 16:52 (nine years ago) link

I know this is getting stale at this point but still lolled

https://twitter.com/caseyjohnston/status/524963580983390208

anonanon, Monday, 27 October 2014 16:54 (nine years ago) link

I got to "Abuser, abused: two sides of the same coin" and had to stop watching

kissaroo and Tyler, too (DJP), Monday, 27 October 2014 16:55 (nine years ago) link

also can I say what I want from gaming journalism is pretty much what I've gotten from PC Gamer, Edge and Game Informer; articles about games, reviews that describe the gameplay and storylines if necessary, a shit-ton of screenshots, and a list of release dates

kissaroo and Tyler, too (DJP), Monday, 27 October 2014 16:57 (nine years ago) link

haha, that's exactly where I stopped x-post.

Spaceport Leuchars (dowd), Monday, 27 October 2014 16:59 (nine years ago) link

hey ums i think i came off a little too harsh and i want to reiterate that i have immense respect for you and enjoy your work

i put "corrupt" in scare quotes because i think that yeah an enthusiast or entertainment press is just naturally, inevitably going to have a different relationship to the industry it covers than general journalism will to general industry. and that's fine! the analogies of fashion and car mags weren't meant to be damning: you pick them up because you want to look at clothes or cars.

what they charge as corruption (esp in the indie scene) is not that at all. they're treating it like they've just discovered that pravda is run by the comintern or something.

anyway, sorry

caucasity and the sundance kid (goole), Monday, 27 October 2014 17:00 (nine years ago) link

Next Gen used to be my shit

, Monday, 27 October 2014 17:01 (nine years ago) link

actually PC Gamer also had a hardware column that used to be fantastic until they promoted the dude who wrote it to EiC

kissaroo and Tyler, too (DJP), Monday, 27 October 2014 17:02 (nine years ago) link

no worries goole

it's just like gamers say they want "investigative journalism" but they really want angry blogs about how some game isn't in 1080p

u2 removal machine (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 27 October 2014 17:04 (nine years ago) link

It actually seems like gamergaters have a pretty coherent position -- using money/advertising to gain favorable coverage is ok, even encouraged, it's only using "sexual charms" that is corrupt

my jaw left (Hurting 2), Monday, 27 October 2014 17:06 (nine years ago) link

=(

panettone for the painfully alone (mayor jingleberries), Monday, 27 October 2014 17:07 (nine years ago) link

the only context under which "investigative gaming journalism" makes sense is if someone actually uncovers an indoctrination plot where someone is using a shooting game to train its players to become more efficient killers, and well http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/America%27s_Army#Reception

kissaroo and Tyler, too (DJP), Monday, 27 October 2014 17:08 (nine years ago) link

xp: well that meme was fun while it lasted

kissaroo and Tyler, too (DJP), Monday, 27 October 2014 17:08 (nine years ago) link

Dan, The Last Starfighter is not a true story

my jaw left (Hurting 2), Monday, 27 October 2014 17:09 (nine years ago) link

Just checking to make sure the picture of IT in the sewage drain has already been captioned with 'Actually, it's about...'

, Monday, 27 October 2014 17:11 (nine years ago) link

Actually, it's about 1080p

Steve 'n' Seagulls and Flock of Van Dammes (forksclovetofu), Monday, 27 October 2014 17:14 (nine years ago) link

yeah the point here is that focused mags are inherently "in bed" with the industry they cover (what up guitar magazines), what these fucksticks dont seem to realize is that its always been that way, and it isnt a problem per se. this whole ethics in journo crap is a bunch of ignorant dudes getting rope a doped by outside right wing woman hating shitheels that convince them that their little special world is under attack. ive got a whole conspiratorial swing here that wonders if koch brother style operators are standing by to mobilize low info voters into sandbagging womens issues for years because feminazis are stealing their precious RTS man club.

Ass Tchotchke! (jjjusten), Monday, 27 October 2014 17:14 (nine years ago) link

Someone throw some cash at me, I'll do some objective videogame reviews.

"This game is 1.1 GB in size, which is 300 MB larger than its predecessor."

kissaroo and Tyler, too (DJP), Monday, 27 October 2014 17:22 (nine years ago) link

^ But are these numbers in base 2 or base 10? Is DJP actually a biased Mac gamer?

, Monday, 27 October 2014 17:23 (nine years ago) link

http://www.cracked.com/quick-fixes/a-90-second-guide-to-determine-if-your-internet-cause-bs/
1817 comments; don't read any of them
i found this because i had the thought "what does seanbaby think about gamergate?" i had that thought. time for a break

Steve 'n' Seagulls and Flock of Van Dammes (forksclovetofu), Monday, 27 October 2014 17:25 (nine years ago) link

just look at this

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Gamergate_controversy

don't actually

caucasity and the sundance kid (goole), Monday, 27 October 2014 17:32 (nine years ago) link

xp Late to the party I'm afraid, Dan.

Andrew Farrell, Monday, 27 October 2014 17:32 (nine years ago) link


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