don't worry I'm sure that will be either no. 1 or no. 2 depending on who turns out to vote. I assume top 3 will be Flashlight, Maggot Brain, and Atomic Dog in no particular order.
― Οὖτις, Friday, 24 October 2014 20:40 (nine years ago) link
Oh man, P-Funk, I do need to prep for that. Know about four or five of the Parliament records really well, but Funkadelic I've barely explored.
― Doctor Casino, Friday, 24 October 2014 23:04 (nine years ago) link
this is one where I really think the nominations thread will be helpful, because just compiling a comprehensive discography is a bit of a task, and there's loads of quality material buried in the catalog.
― Οὖτις, Friday, 24 October 2014 23:07 (nine years ago) link
Holy shit, that list just scared the fuck out of me.
― pplains, Saturday, 25 October 2014 01:20 (nine years ago) link
Heh, so we'll be going from Stephen Merritt to Metallica. There's a transition.
― pplains, Saturday, 25 October 2014 01:21 (nine years ago) link
Spaceman 3 (& descendants) - Elvis Telecom - on hold until fall 2014
isn't it the fall of 2014?
― Bee OK, Saturday, 25 October 2014 01:36 (nine years ago) link
^^^ northern-hemispherist
― mookieproof, Saturday, 25 October 2014 01:39 (nine years ago) link
lol, you have been on a roll tonight mookie.
Elvis is here with me in Los Angeles.
― Bee OK, Saturday, 25 October 2014 02:21 (nine years ago) link
it is always summer here though.
― Bee OK, Saturday, 25 October 2014 02:22 (nine years ago) link
Ghost of Polls Past: http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=VR2ndExR8gM
― Don A Henley And Get Over It (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 25 October 2014 02:26 (nine years ago) link
I guess I'll start the Italo one in about a week or so. It is my first ILM Ballot poll so If someone can share some guidance on how to do run things (timelines, vote counting, scoring) I'd appreciate that.(totalpop AT gmail DOT com).
― daavid, Monday, 27 October 2014 01:06 (nine years ago) link
Genre polls should definitely have an extended voting period. Like, no less than 3 weeks. Ballot size and scoring should be based on how much you're comfortable tabulating. 100 track ballots, unless you want to spend A LOT of time putting together final results, are probably over the top for a first time pollrunner.
― Johnny Fever, Monday, 27 October 2014 01:35 (nine years ago) link
Agreed. My disco poll had 50 track ballots, and even those were a whole lot of work to tally. Presumably the Italo poll will have less voters, but still...
You might also consider doing a nomination thread first, because even with a relatively narrow genre like Italo, you could end up with a ridiculously large xls list if you let people vote freely without a predefined list. Also, before you start the nomination/voting thread, you need to a good definition of "Italo", so people won't start arguing what track is eligible and what's not. Is "Italo" defined by having been produced in Italy, or by a specific sound? Limiting the voting to tracks released in a specific period of time might be a good idea too, to stop people from nominating questionable entries. (My disco poll was limited to the years 1972 - 1984 so that people wouldn't nom stuff like proto-disco or house music.)
― Tuomas, Monday, 27 October 2014 08:36 (nine years ago) link
Thanks JF and Tuomas. I think I'll follow the nominations suggestion. I've given some thought to it and feel like it's too hard to put time and geographical constraints on Italo though (I want more recent acts like Italove or Sally Shapiro to be eligible), so I'm just gonna go with whatever people think is Italo and let think sort themselves out. Also I think I'll do 40 track ballots.
― daavid, Monday, 27 October 2014 14:53 (nine years ago) link
*let things
Hey Paul, Hey Paul, Hey Paul, let's have a POLL: ILM Artist Poll #69 • Pixies (results!)
― Johnny Fever, Monday, 27 October 2014 15:06 (nine years ago) link
Recommend not starting too soon lest you step on the P-Funk poll turnout. Starting a new poll while the previous one's results are being rolled out is cool and recommended, but two open voting periods going at the same time seems like it could cut into the turnout for both. Also, if you're going to accept everybody's definitions of Italo, no need for a nominations thread, right? One thread for voting/campaigning/kibitzing, then a thread for results.
― Pict in a blanket (WilliamC), Monday, 27 October 2014 15:15 (nine years ago) link
can i cut in line since Johnny Fever got to cut in front of me
― example (crüt), Monday, 27 October 2014 15:17 (nine years ago) link
like, idgi, you know how to get in touch with me, it seems really shitty for people to jump ahead in the queue when some of us have been waiting for 2 fucking years
― example (crüt), Monday, 27 October 2014 15:19 (nine years ago) link
that was the whole point of doing things this way
― example (crüt), Monday, 27 October 2014 15:20 (nine years ago) link
i'll start it tonight since it's a free-for-all
― example (crüt), Monday, 27 October 2014 15:26 (nine years ago) link
plz to see upthread where the next two polls were abandoned and moved to the end of the line and others were being delayed by their runners, so it seemed like a good time to try and fill a vacuum. Check the thread more often.
― Johnny Fever, Monday, 27 October 2014 15:29 (nine years ago) link
I was waiting for my turn like a respectable human being!
― example (crüt), Monday, 27 October 2014 15:31 (nine years ago) link
I apologize for not emailing you, crüt. I should have checked with everyone in the 61-68 range before I said go ahead.
― Pict in a blanket (WilliamC), Monday, 27 October 2014 15:38 (nine years ago) link
thanks Wm. sorry for throwing a tantrum.
― example (crüt), Monday, 27 October 2014 15:41 (nine years ago) link
Even though I've taken part in a few of these polls, I don't understand the point of the nominations threads.
― ... and a Martin Parr photo essay (Tom D.), Monday, 27 October 2014 15:54 (nine years ago) link
xp -- no worries, that's a legit gripe. PS, there are a ton of polls coming up that I don't care about, but I'm stoked for the CCR listening party.
― Pict in a blanket (WilliamC), Monday, 27 October 2014 16:20 (nine years ago) link
me too
― sleeve, Monday, 27 October 2014 16:24 (nine years ago) link
Nominations threads remind people (especially people with bad memories, like me) of things that are available to vote for. I don't believe in nominations without write-ins. Theoretically lobbying threads could/should perform the function of the nominations threads, but in practice they never do. My theory as to why is that people only concentrate on their own absolute favourites in lobbying threads, and worry that over-lobbying dilutes the effect.
― emil.y, Monday, 27 October 2014 16:29 (nine years ago) link
And I guess that nominations threads also allow us to hash out ground rules?
― My Life with the Thrillho Kult (Leee), Monday, 27 October 2014 16:52 (nine years ago) link
for what it's worth, I intend to open the P-Funk poll noms thread tomorrow. I find most nominations threads pointless but with this gargantuan catalog I expect it to be a little more useful than normal. Will probably let it run for a week or two.
― Οὖτις, Monday, 27 October 2014 23:26 (nine years ago) link
noms thread = voting thread?
― Pict in a blanket (WilliamC), Tuesday, 28 October 2014 01:11 (nine years ago) link
Well yeah
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 28 October 2014 01:35 (nine years ago) link
Yes it's going to be hard work this!
― ... and a Martin Parr photo essay (Tom D.), Tuesday, 28 October 2014 13:25 (nine years ago) link
I don't know about others, but when I've ran polls, I've used the nomination threads to ease my job a bit. If you let people vote freely, you might end up with a list with thousands of entries, all of which you have to write down, check the correct spelling, check if they're eligible, and mark the points given to them, even though the majority of them will get just 1 or 2 votes. With a nomination process, the list will be much more manageable, and once the voting starts you just have to write down the points.
Obviously this applies to open-ended genre polls only, if the pool of entries is definite to begin with (such as one band's output), nominations aren't needed.
― Tuomas, Tuesday, 28 October 2014 13:47 (nine years ago) link
What list?
― ... and a Martin Parr photo essay (Tom D.), Tuesday, 28 October 2014 15:48 (nine years ago) link
The list of tracks that received votes.
― Tantivleee Mucker-Maffick (Leee), Tuesday, 28 October 2014 16:36 (nine years ago) link
Elvis T, if you look at this thread, what's the status of Spacemen 3?
― Pict in a blanket (WilliamC), Wednesday, 29 October 2014 01:40 (nine years ago) link
They split up donkey's years ago
― Turtleneck Work Solutions (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Wednesday, 29 October 2014 07:53 (nine years ago) link
Actually just came into the thread to post that I'm finally ready to roll on SP3.
― Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 29 October 2014 08:38 (nine years ago) link
daavid's ready to go with Italo, too -- will you two hash out who's going to go next? thx
― Pict in a blanket (WilliamC), Wednesday, 29 October 2014 12:37 (nine years ago) link
I'll go after daavid then.
― Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 29 October 2014 18:40 (nine years ago) link
Er, Elvis, would you mind going first? I was planning to wait an extra week or two anyway (at least after the P-Funk voting period was over as JF suggested) which was convenient cause It's kind of a busy time for me.
― daavid, Thursday, 30 October 2014 15:00 (nine years ago) link
> Agreed. My disco poll had 50 track ballots, and even those were a whole lot of work to tally.
54 ballots would have been so much more apt....
― and in his absence, she (Lee626), Thursday, 30 October 2014 15:24 (nine years ago) link
What is going on with the Yo La Tengo poll?
― Van Horn Street, Saturday, 1 November 2014 21:59 (nine years ago) link
next canada day
― mookieproof, Saturday, 1 November 2014 22:00 (nine years ago) link
clemenza claimed them, but only has a tiny window every year to run a poll, and this year's window snuck past everybody -- i.e., me and clemenza.
― Pict in a blanket (WilliamC), Saturday, 1 November 2014 22:13 (nine years ago) link
I can do it in the second of half november, if you guys don't mind.
― Van Horn Street, Saturday, 1 November 2014 22:37 (nine years ago) link
That'll be clemenza's call.
There's also the EOY voting hiatus -- crap, have we been doing these things long enough to call it the "traditional" hiatus?
― Pict in a blanket (WilliamC), Saturday, 1 November 2014 23:54 (nine years ago) link
stoked for the italo poll.
― example (crüt), Sunday, 2 November 2014 03:22 (nine years ago) link