stephs handle is very good but what makes it look great is that you have to guard his shot so tightly, like his ball skills arent in the same conversation as chris pauls
― lag∞n, Friday, 24 October 2014 03:04 (nine years ago) link
Yeah obv if you have to play a guy tight like Steph to protect the shot you're gonna get shook
― 龜, Friday, 24 October 2014 03:05 (nine years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PFAOnktqmls
7.7/10
― 龜, Friday, 24 October 2014 03:08 (nine years ago) link
shook ones part 30 xp
― Mathew Klickbait (Spottie), Friday, 24 October 2014 03:08 (nine years ago) link
CP3 actually kinda reminds me of Nash in the way that he can just sort of maintain a very steady speed w/ the ball while changing direction
― 龜, Friday, 24 October 2014 03:09 (nine years ago) link
yeah paul and nash (rip) are on another level imho just like psychologically they understand how to control the defense w their dribble
― lag∞n, Friday, 24 October 2014 03:11 (nine years ago) link
Yeah Nash never had a sprint like Rose but he never had to go slow either so in the average he was very fast
― 龜, Friday, 24 October 2014 03:12 (nine years ago) link
timmy hardaway has at least five in here that are 8.5/10https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V0HRPIu02Xo
― Mathew Klickbait (Spottie), Friday, 24 October 2014 03:13 (nine years ago) link
Rose has an okay handle but if you give him an inch he turns on the jets
― 龜, Friday, 24 October 2014 03:13 (nine years ago) link
The UTEP two step is like my 2nd favorite move all time (after AI's cross)
yeah hardaways the crossover og xp
― lag∞n, Friday, 24 October 2014 03:14 (nine years ago) link
nash could just work the court and get to whatever position he wanted in the key and then everyone else would either cut or find an open spot outside the arc
― Mathew Klickbait (Spottie), Friday, 24 October 2014 03:14 (nine years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=txKdnGPmHVo
8.5 / 10
― 龜, Friday, 24 October 2014 03:14 (nine years ago) link
Well my #1 crossover of all time (like a lot of folks) is AI on MJ which led to a stepback jumper
― 龜, Thursday, October 23, 2014 10:51 PM (18 minutes ago)
smgdmfh
― k3vin k., Friday, 24 October 2014 03:14 (nine years ago) link
rose kinda sloppy with the handle but yeah the first step is (was) unreal
― Mathew Klickbait (Spottie), Friday, 24 October 2014 03:15 (nine years ago) link
not only was that not even that great a crossover, if you're gonna have MJ be part of your all-time best cross, at least choose his shot over russell
― k3vin k., Friday, 24 October 2014 03:15 (nine years ago) link
Oh cool, k3v has an opinion
― 龜, Friday, 24 October 2014 03:16 (nine years ago) link
MJ pushed off Russell ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Thank you for the challop though, it has been filed in the Challop Archives
― 龜, Friday, 24 October 2014 03:17 (nine years ago) link
ai over mj is very important for cultural reasons
― lag∞n, Friday, 24 October 2014 03:17 (nine years ago) link
AI got MJ twice on the same play and then drained the shot, GOAT
my biggest beef with a lot of AIs best moves was they looked like carrying to me.
― Mathew Klickbait (Spottie), Friday, 24 October 2014 03:18 (nine years ago) link
Yeah refs had to basically start calling the carry after AI was in the league
― 龜, Friday, 24 October 2014 03:19 (nine years ago) link
Which imo is more a sign of how much AI influenced the game than a stain on aI
― 龜, Friday, 24 October 2014 03:20 (nine years ago) link
― lag∞n, Thursday, October 23, 2014 11:17 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark
Yeah like AI was what, a rookie or a 2nd year when he did it (you can trace it because he hadn't started wearing cornrows yet) and MJ was in his prime
not sure how that wouldn't be in anyones top 10-15
― Mathew Klickbait (Spottie), Friday, 24 October 2014 03:21 (nine years ago) link
if it were just two regular players no one wld be talking abt that play
― lag∞n, Friday, 24 October 2014 03:22 (nine years ago) link
right, but
― Mathew Klickbait (Spottie), Friday, 24 October 2014 03:25 (nine years ago) link
Well it happened in 97
Think only TIMMAY had really done much advance work up to that point
― 龜, Friday, 24 October 2014 03:25 (nine years ago) link
Best part about AI's crossover was that it was always left right
Most players start w/ the dominant hand because it's easier & I think it's why they end up in stepback J's because it's hard to drive w/ the non dominant hand
AI tho made sure to end up on his dominant side and could get you with the jumper or the drive
― 龜, Friday, 24 October 2014 03:26 (nine years ago) link
yeah iverson def knew how to get to the basket w his crossover 5000%
― lag∞n, Friday, 24 October 2014 03:29 (nine years ago) link
Kinda wonder what teams were telling defenders tho, I never seen AI drive w/ his left
But his defenders kept on biting (RIP Antonio Daniels)
― 龜, Friday, 24 October 2014 03:31 (nine years ago) link
― lag∞n, Thursday, October 23, 2014 11:17 PM (25 minutes ago)
i agree but just as a crossover objectively it's good but not great. if you go by day's criteria it's a run of the mill cross (not to mention a blatant palm, my love for AI notwithstanding) and jordan's reaction isn't THAT bad
― k3vin k., Friday, 24 October 2014 03:45 (nine years ago) link
dayo's*
― k3vin k., Friday, 24 October 2014 03:46 (nine years ago) link
yeah jordan actually recovers to get a hand up on iversons shot
― lag∞n, Friday, 24 October 2014 03:47 (nine years ago) link
Well that's just how crazy MJ is tho
― 龜, Friday, 24 October 2014 03:47 (nine years ago) link
tru
― k3vin k., Friday, 24 October 2014 03:49 (nine years ago) link
"I'll never forget coming off a screen and him switching and [coach] Phil Jackson hollering his name, telling him to switch out on me," Iverson recalled. "And I gave him the first little one, and I see that he's biting on it. And I hit him with the second one and made the shot."Without making the shot, the move becomes an afterthought."I was going to put my move to the test, to see if it was real," Iverson said. "It had to be real if it worked on the greatest player to ever play the game. That made me feel good."Watch the video carefully next time and you'll see what made Jordan such a great player."The craziest thing about it is, I hit him with my best move, and he still almost blocked it," Iverson said, laughing at the moment. "That's what was so crazy about it. That just let's you know how great a defensive player he was."
Without making the shot, the move becomes an afterthought.
"I was going to put my move to the test, to see if it was real," Iverson said. "It had to be real if it worked on the greatest player to ever play the game. That made me feel good."
Watch the video carefully next time and you'll see what made Jordan such a great player.
"The craziest thing about it is, I hit him with my best move, and he still almost blocked it," Iverson said, laughing at the moment. "That's what was so crazy about it. That just let's you know how great a defensive player he was."
― 龜, Friday, 24 October 2014 03:50 (nine years ago) link
AI hits him with it once, MJ reaches, AI gets him again, makes the shot, everything is beautiful, #1 all time imo
― 龜, Friday, 24 October 2014 03:51 (nine years ago) link
so you admit are throwing out your own guidelines to give the crown to a guy who played in philly t/f
― k3vin k., Friday, 24 October 2014 03:52 (nine years ago) link
Ain't trowing no guidlines out. MJ reached plain and simple. Got what he deserved
― 龜, Friday, 24 October 2014 03:53 (nine years ago) link
If MJ didn't reach he woulda blocked the shot
But he reached. All AI needed
― 龜, Friday, 24 October 2014 03:55 (nine years ago) link
reach, teach
― lag∞n, Friday, 24 October 2014 04:03 (nine years ago) link
If he didn't reach, AI would've taken a different shot.
― My Life with the Thrillho Kult (Leee), Friday, 24 October 2014 04:27 (nine years ago) link
high school cp3 https://vine.co/v/OqZFu9hW7nq
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 28 October 2014 21:11 (nine years ago) link
Sick
― 龜, Tuesday, 28 October 2014 21:12 (nine years ago) link
feel bad for that kid why did he try to dive into the court like it was a lake
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 28 October 2014 21:13 (nine years ago) link
CP3 set him on fire. O_O
― Tantivleee Mucker-Maffick (Leee), Tuesday, 28 October 2014 21:13 (nine years ago) link
otm that must be it
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 28 October 2014 21:15 (nine years ago) link
lol that kid :(
― Clay, Tuesday, 28 October 2014 21:18 (nine years ago) link