before everyone votes heseltine or howe, expound on some of the darker horses here
― pecker shrivellage (imago), Friday, 24 October 2014 01:25 (nine years ago) link
the dialectical crux of this is st john stevas vs joseph
― the final twilight of all evaluative standpoints (nakhchivan), Friday, 24 October 2014 01:28 (nine years ago) link
He was noted for his many personal affectations, including proffering his hand in papal fashion, lapsing into Latin whilst speaking, and deliberately mispronouncing modern words.
― pecker shrivellage (imago), Friday, 24 October 2014 01:41 (nine years ago) link
you know what they should've called this government? "Yes I Can If Keith Joseph Says I Can"
― Chimp Arsons, Friday, 24 October 2014 01:41 (nine years ago) link
seems quite an interesting figure in the context of reptilian thatcherism xp to st john stevas
― pecker shrivellage (imago), Friday, 24 October 2014 01:42 (nine years ago) link
albeit a fairly classic gay catholic stylist
― pecker shrivellage (imago), Friday, 24 October 2014 01:45 (nine years ago) link
joseph otoh
“A high and rising proportion of children are being born to mothers least fitted to bring children into the world.... Some are of low intelligence, most of low educational attainment. They are unlikely to be able to give children the stable emotional background, the consistent combination of love and firmness…. They are producing problem children…. The balance of our human stock, is threatened….”
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http://i.imgur.com/tPWtmcD.jpg
not on keith's reading list if the vaguely antisemitic gay panic hysteria of the other month ever proves to have any truth to it
― the final twilight of all evaluative standpoints (nakhchivan), Friday, 24 October 2014 01:48 (nine years ago) link
You're joking, aren't you? Who would vote for those wankers? Gilmour then Carrington, you're better off with a toff.
― ... and a Martin Parr photo essay (Tom D.), Friday, 24 October 2014 09:24 (nine years ago) link
Actually scratch that, all Carrington ever did was 'honourably resign', walkover for Gilmour.
― ... and a Martin Parr photo essay (Tom D.), Friday, 24 October 2014 09:52 (nine years ago) link
Biffen shares his name with this cat
http://www.ht.no/incoming/article4574825.ece/alternates/w980-default/1Katt_Biffen
http://www.kattene.net/biffen.eng.htm
― soref, Friday, 24 October 2014 10:42 (nine years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WgisEwXFlvw
― soref, Friday, 24 October 2014 10:46 (nine years ago) link
...Biffen is the smallest and only indepedent cinema in aalborg.Biffen is anxious to know if any blood has been shed.Biffen is ranked number 220 and has played for 23m in 14 days real name.Biffen is ranked 46 and has played for 54m in 31 days real name.Biffen is forever biffing policemen and fears he has done it once too often and has lost his inheritance.
― soref, Friday, 24 October 2014 11:07 (nine years ago) link
can we lose the real name pls
― local eire man (darraghmac), Friday, 24 October 2014 11:21 (nine years ago) link
joseph otoh“A high and rising proportion of children are being born to mothers least fitted to bring children into the world.... Some are of low intelligence, most of low educational attainment. They are unlikely to be able to give children the stable emotional background, the consistent combination of love and firmness…. They are producing problem children…. The balance of our human stock, is threatened….”...― pecker shrivellage (imago), Friday, 24 October 2014 01:45 (9 hours ago)
― pecker shrivellage (imago), Friday, 24 October 2014 01:45 (9 hours ago)
This is a paraphrasing of Churchill's "feeble minded" policy when he was Home Secretary, isn't it?
― the bowels are not what they seem (aldo), Friday, 24 October 2014 11:30 (nine years ago) link
When was Churchill's 'feeble minded' policy and when was Joseph's statement? I'm interested to know how late on Joseph was allowed to get away with stuff like this. Macmillan described him as ' the only boring Jew I ever met'.
― ... and a Martin Parr photo essay (Tom D.), Friday, 24 October 2014 11:39 (nine years ago) link
Joseph's statement was probably the only thing that stopped him, rather than Thatcher, being PM.
― Wristy Hurlington (ShariVari), Friday, 24 October 2014 11:44 (nine years ago) link
the Joseph speech was from 1974, there is some interesting background here:
http://www.lrb.co.uk/v23/n14/peter-clarke/the-antagonisers-agoniser
― soref, Friday, 24 October 2014 11:46 (nine years ago) link
The last event I went to was the MIPIM awards. Michael Heseltine, a key figure in the sale of millions of council houses, was awarded a ‘lifetime achievement award’. ‘My whole career has been about property,’ he said. ‘I love property.’ He got a standing ovation.
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 24 October 2014 12:56 (nine years ago) link
we're voting for most integral/quintessential/entertainingly malevolent here right
the notion of having to root for one of these cunts is astonishing & sad
mind u stevas seemed sorta ok
― pecker shrivellage (imago), Friday, 24 October 2014 13:01 (nine years ago) link
The notion of voting at all in this thread amuses me.
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 24 October 2014 13:05 (nine years ago) link
The only one there I've never even heard of is Nicholas Edwards.. oh Secretary of State for Wales, that explains it. Not sure I know who Mark Carlisle is either.
― ... and a Martin Parr photo essay (Tom D.), Friday, 24 October 2014 14:20 (nine years ago) link
Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.
― System, Tuesday, 11 November 2014 00:01 (nine years ago) link
Back in London he noticed that ‘a curtain had come down’. Thatcher’s press secretary, Bernard Ingham, described Biffen as a ‘semi-detached’ member of the cabinet. Asked to respond, Biffen used a more forthright metaphor. ‘I said I thought Ingham was the sewer not the sewage.’ As soon as Thatcher secured her third victory in 1987, Biffen got the boot. Yet he acknowledges his debt to Ingham for providing a title for his book.
― milord z (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 11 November 2014 00:08 (nine years ago) link
I have a copy of that Francis Pym book! I bought it from the International Anthony Burgess Foundation in Manchester when I went there to see Momus perform
― soref, Tuesday, 11 November 2014 00:12 (nine years ago) link
Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.
― System, Wednesday, 12 November 2014 00:01 (nine years ago) link
http://www.kattene.net/DSC00207.jpg
― sarahell, Wednesday, 12 November 2014 00:13 (nine years ago) link
https://i.guim.co.uk/img/media/849591196163444f369373d01bfb6919d412ff71/0_106_2328_1398/master/2328.jpg?w=1920&q=85&auto=format&sharp=10&s=00c842c85b77aa31914e10694d75aaa6
― figuratively if not literally crushed by boxes of despair (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 30 December 2015 01:05 (eight years ago) link
so what's the story there then
― carly rae jetson (thomp), Wednesday, 30 December 2015 03:32 (eight years ago) link
n/m, found it
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/dec/30/thatcher-tried-to-block-bad-taste-public-health-warnings-about-aids
― carly rae jetson (thomp), Wednesday, 30 December 2015 03:33 (eight years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/pvpfF8d.jpg
― сверх (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 26 April 2016 17:06 (eight years ago) link
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cg9vJf2W4AIbfIb.jpg
― hot doug stamper (||||||||), Tuesday, 26 April 2016 19:52 (eight years ago) link