Why is casual racism/sexism more accepted in video games than other forms of media (these days)?

@tinybaby 35m35 minutes ago
@AdrianChen @max_read congratulations to Adrian Chen on accepting his new position as head of #GamerGate

lol

ROBERTO EBOLAÑO ‏@Arturo_Ulises 2h2 hours ago
@tinybaby @AdrianChen @max_read Don't let go of that Triforce, Adrian! #GoldenPower

Adrian Chen ‏@AdrianChen 2h2 hours ago
@tinybaby @max_read thanks. it wasn't easy. I had to bully thousands of nerds.

lol this dude tried to actually give Gamergate useful advice to make it a more legit advocacy group: http://www.zenofdesign.com/dear-gamergate-please-form-a-consumer-organization-kthxbye/

it was not appreciated:
JEWS says:
October 3, 2014 at 6:38 am

no, fuck off

an organization like GAMR would act as a massive BOTTLENECK for #GamerGate’s effectiveness

this manifesto is bad and you should feel bad
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JEWS says:
October 3, 2014 at 7:10 am

i’m feeling generous enough to rebut you point-by-point

2. a “congress” cannot faithfully represent an amorphous group of people that anyone can enter and leave anonymously
3-5. see 2
6. this is slacktivism
7. #burgersandfries and /gg/
8. see 2
9-10. /v/irgins have done this for years and we’ll continue to do it
11-12. see 2
13. i seriously hope you’re kidding about the mailing list
14. see 7
15. this deprives us of agency as an audience
16. irrelevant to gamergate

0/10, see me after class pete
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Adam says:
October 3, 2014 at 5:52 pm

An excellent response from a guy named JEWS.
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Eatmyshit says:
October 3, 2014 at 8:48 am

You can just eat shit out of my asshole. You suck, your games suck. You’re human garbage. Swallow your own tongue.

funny to see the "you guys should have a platform and officers!"/"no that's the point!" occupy debate repeated as disingenuous farce

next time is tragedy iirc, thatll be fun

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Re: the harassment, none of GG seem to have any idea of filtering bias (for all that they're about "This is clearly fallacy #23") - that all harassment of pro-GG is brought breathlessly and unexamined to them, and the anti-GG harassment only turns up when it gets in the news, when it is generally accompanied by a reason why it's fake - there are seriously people on the pro-GG side who believe that Anita Sarkeezian only got a death threat once, and they've seen an imgur saying it was fake, so...

xp lol yup, poor gamersgate

hueg so I don't want to post it directly but this is kinda lol:

http://abload.de/img/imagevls58.jpg

that's great!

Hehe.

"Either ignorant or lying, which is it?" is always the best rhetorical checkmate.

as someone vaguely following this whole thing, the overall sense i get is of a bunch of maladjusted kids & young adults flailing around hopelessly and everyone else pointing at them and saying Look at how Bad these people are and it's all very one-sided and i'm not sure why you'd even frame it as a debate

one-sided?

Maybe the women being targeted don't find it "one-sided" in the way you mean.

xp oh man that comic is fantastic

love that max post, but in general i'm pining for the time when i was ignoring this and wasn't hate-reading GG tweets.

unfortunately my second thought after "what a great comic" was "how long til some shut in doxxes the artist"

Perils of the Lady Gamer pt. 1 if you're interested
http://www.shaenon.com/ladygaming.html

yeah those are good

this manifesto is bad and you should feel bad

lol

one of the scarier things about the internet is it allows people to grow up in an environment where actions don't have consequences

what, you mean like Wall Street bankers? *rimshot*

i can't even tell serious posts from fakeposts anymore https://twitter.com/uurow1/status/525066805896032258

looks like a real account to me, but who knows maybe it's *false flag* lol
https://twitter.com/uurow1

Pixel Knight @uurow1 · 16h 16 hours ago
#Gamergate hates women, despite loving games like Uncharted, Legacy of Kain, Jak and Daxter, Assassin's Creed, and King's Quest.

guys we love women so much we love these games with male protagonists

yeah what does that mean are those games that women were involved in developing? Games with female characters? I need a gamer translator/guide for all this.

i think the former? kinda missing the forest for the trees there tho 'pixel knight'

Let us remember all the shit Jade Raymond(who just split Ubisoft for Occulus?) got 7 years ago when AC was first released.

otm

the eurogamer story i read on her announcing her resignation was still filled with oafs commenting on her appearance

Pixel Knight @uur0w1 · 16h 16 hours ago
#Gamergate hates women, despite loving games like Uncharted, Legacy of Kain, Jak and Daxter, Assassin's Creed, and King's Quest.

all of those games have what passes for "strong female characters" in video games

i'll bet dollars to doughnuts pixel knight's never played king's quest and is just boosting his pro-women cred by mentioning it

fuckin fake geek boys smdh

hey, king's quest 4 and 7 had women protagonists!

i take it all back i am now on board with #gamergate #notyourshield

*casts a throwaway primary vote for Herman Cain because not racist*

Amy Hennig wrote the scripts and was creative director for all the Uncharted games (recently departed now making unannounced Star Wars game at EA)

I *think* they may think that Amy worked on Jak & Daxter, which she may have a little but certainly wasn't one of the main ppl behind that, she would have still been at Crystal for a lot of that

Amy was one of the principals on Legacy of Kain back at Crystal in the day

Jade Raymond was lead on AC

I don't know that much abt King's Quest

seriously tho, back to topic, fuckin a

https://twitter.com/mrconnorobrien/status/525238071441100801

perfect

i see those ads on like every gaming site these days

yah they are google ad served i think, it sucks you often don't get a lot of control over what goes up on those

UMS, am I wrong in saying that there are "strong female protagonists" in all those games though?

yes in uncharted
AC kinda there was the Vita one set in New Orleans w/female lead
Legacy of Kain, man it's been awhile there were a few of those maybe?
Jak & Daxter kinda but i dunno you're really scraping the barrel to find one in that case
king's quest is a blind spot for me as i said

either way the point that the game industry has often had sexist, hyper-sexualized/objectified, and dumb portrayals of women -- and that by and large protagonists have been white males, is so completely objectively TRUE that you'd have to be some sort of moron to argue otherwise

i mean ppl are bringing up Lara Croft as a counter example, she is literally a female because when they were developing the first one, a programmer thought it would be more pleasant to stare at a hot female butt than a man's butt

King's Quest games suck

Also as though there being a handful of popular female protagonists makes a lick of difference in re the severe harassment of women who criticize gaming culture or get "too uppity" or something

KQ1 was Roberta Williams

Oh man, I'm disappointed they didn't mention Phantasmagoria

i have misremembered the lead in one of the Kain games being a woman. go figure. there was a rush of female protagonists in the wake of Tomb Raider's ridiculous success but not many characters that have hung on till current gen systems.
for non-gamers, it is perhaps instructive to recognize that Sony, the creator of the Playstation and arguably the most important company in console gaming, has claimed "Fat Princess" as their signature female character for the past five years.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MHjQzBwawNM

and she's not even playable!

I just remember with Jade Raymond, Ubi put her right out front for the promotion of the game and boy did she catch shit for it, even to the point of the horrible nsfw cartoon somebody drew

corey cole who co-created the quest for glory games was talking about gamergate recently, and he mentioned that roberta williams got hate mail for making a woman the protagonist of king's quest 4. the more things change, etc.