Why is casual racism/sexism more accepted in video games than other forms of media (these days)?

apologies for apologies

Gamergate vs. Gawker... I'm so torn.

Just glad someone is finally stepping up and saying bullying is bad.

just consider for a second tho, what if its not?

Show me the evidence and verify

http://thisfeliciaday.tumblr.com/post/100700417809/the-only-thing-i-have-to-say-about-gamer-gate

just consider for a second tho, what if its not?

― lag∞n, Wednesday, October 22, 2014 7:54 PM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

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my role model tbh

Is there a good up-to-date summary of what gamergate is exactly? I get the sense that it involves a lot of basement dwellers rage-fapping into their mesh shorts while trolling women in a hostile and threatening manner. I'm not really interested in gaming or "gamer culture" so it's off my radar aside from just being a word that crosses my view a lot now.

wired et al seem to post a new one of those sorts of summaries every day

https://twitter.com/colincidence/status/524631128482021377

At this point it just seems like a forum raid done on a larger and more personally damaging scale

i stand with #gamergate against the evils of slap bass tbh

Are forum raids just 90s things

good investigation into the nasty lil places gmrgt sprang from http://gawker.com/these-are-the-creepy-4chan-successors-behind-gamergates-1648966614

learning about w1zardchan kinda messed my day up

ok, I get it now, this is worse than I pictured it

ya btw no one read that link unless u want to be very sad abt the world

GG is crowdsourced trolling.

every link I am now getting to about this and other related/similar things is making my stomach knot up. I feel like I want to keep my daughter off the internet. I hope the law and tech evolve in a way that makes it more feasible to give real consequences to these wastes of human life.

it's like mobilizing a bunch of wannabe elliot rodgers types, ISIS style

learning about w1zardchan kinda messed my day up

otm

every link I am now getting to about this and other related/similar things is making my stomach knot up.

Yep. I haven't been contributing much to this thread because for a lot of the time I've been feeling genuinely quite sick and afraid every time I read something about it. The Clickhole article was the first time I've actually had a proper hearty laugh at the situation in what feels like a long time.

Serious Q: how common is this sort of severe internet harassment for women with an internet presence? Is it primarily women in *chan-friendly* fields like gaming or is this just standard now? I mean not just getting hate comments but actually being attacked in more serious ways like the woman who had her games' metacritic score bombed, got personal threats, had her company targeted, etc.? Like hate mail doesn't seem like a new thing but this stuff does.

SeanieSkykiller ‏@SeanieSkykiller 4h4 hours ago

@ClickHole Yes that whole last paragraph where you connect #GamerGate with harassment has no sources, why?

Serious Q: how common is this sort of severe internet harassment for women with an internet presence? Is it primarily women in *chan-friendly* fields like gaming or is this just standard now?

In gaming it's very common

BTW, after Felicia Day posted a blog about how she has been afraid to speak out she got doxxed within an hour

I have plenty of female friends in the music world who have been harassed to the point of death/rape threats. My personal presence online is super bland and fairly restricted but I know that even that isn't necessarily a barrier to harassment.

xposts to Hurting

(To clarify, not "harassed to the point of death, also rape threats" but "harassed to the point of death threats and rape threats".)

Yeah I have read about specific incidents before but it is suddenly hitting me how pervasive this is.

It used to be massively common even a long time ago in places like IRC chatrooms. If you went online with an obvious female name, BAM instant skeeveball PMs. And if you rejected/told them to GTFO you'd be called slut/lesbian/i know where u live/etc/start another chatroom bagging you out etc.

This is basically why I never ever play MMORPGs or other online linked gamnig - i just CBF dealing with this shite.

study circulated a lil
while ago scientists made a bunch of twitter bots that all tweeted the same stuff, the ones with overtly female profiles got ~100x more harassment

The new phenomenon mostly seems to be the coupling of this kind of harassment with the power to actually do anything beyond say offensive stuff.

jesus christ, doxxing felicia day like ten seconds after she spoke thoughtfully and honestly about her past trouble with stalkers. there isn't an epithet scathing enough to describe these assholes.

looool https://twitter.com/AdrianChen/status/525108164640112640

@tinybaby 35m35 minutes ago
@AdrianChen @max_read congratulations to Adrian Chen on accepting his new position as head of #GamerGate

lol

ROBERTO EBOLAÑO ‏@Arturo_Ulises 2h2 hours ago
@tinybaby @AdrianChen @max_read Don't let go of that Triforce, Adrian! #GoldenPower

Adrian Chen ‏@AdrianChen 2h2 hours ago
@tinybaby @max_read thanks. it wasn't easy. I had to bully thousands of nerds.

lol this dude tried to actually give Gamergate useful advice to make it a more legit advocacy group: http://www.zenofdesign.com/dear-gamergate-please-form-a-consumer-organization-kthxbye/

it was not appreciated:
JEWS says:
October 3, 2014 at 6:38 am

no, fuck off

an organization like GAMR would act as a massive BOTTLENECK for #GamerGate’s effectiveness

this manifesto is bad and you should feel bad
Reply

JEWS says:
October 3, 2014 at 7:10 am

i’m feeling generous enough to rebut you point-by-point

2. a “congress” cannot faithfully represent an amorphous group of people that anyone can enter and leave anonymously
3-5. see 2
6. this is slacktivism
7. #burgersandfries and /gg/
8. see 2
9-10. /v/irgins have done this for years and we’ll continue to do it
11-12. see 2
13. i seriously hope you’re kidding about the mailing list
14. see 7
15. this deprives us of agency as an audience
16. irrelevant to gamergate

0/10, see me after class pete
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Adam says:
October 3, 2014 at 5:52 pm

An excellent response from a guy named JEWS.
Reply

Eatmyshit says:
October 3, 2014 at 8:48 am

You can just eat shit out of my asshole. You suck, your games suck. You’re human garbage. Swallow your own tongue.

funny to see the "you guys should have a platform and officers!"/"no that's the point!" occupy debate repeated as disingenuous farce

next time is tragedy iirc, thatll be fun

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Re: the harassment, none of GG seem to have any idea of filtering bias (for all that they're about "This is clearly fallacy #23") - that all harassment of pro-GG is brought breathlessly and unexamined to them, and the anti-GG harassment only turns up when it gets in the news, when it is generally accompanied by a reason why it's fake - there are seriously people on the pro-GG side who believe that Anita Sarkeezian only got a death threat once, and they've seen an imgur saying it was fake, so...

xp lol yup, poor gamersgate

hueg so I don't want to post it directly but this is kinda lol:

http://abload.de/img/imagevls58.jpg

that's great!

Hehe.

"Either ignorant or lying, which is it?" is always the best rhetorical checkmate.

as someone vaguely following this whole thing, the overall sense i get is of a bunch of maladjusted kids & young adults flailing around hopelessly and everyone else pointing at them and saying Look at how Bad these people are and it's all very one-sided and i'm not sure why you'd even frame it as a debate

one-sided?

Maybe the women being targeted don't find it "one-sided" in the way you mean.

xp oh man that comic is fantastic