yeah i'm starting this tomorrow, i've made a couple false starts the last few months but time to be less slothful
― velko, Tuesday, 17 March 2009 19:52 (4 years ago) Permalink
Hmm, the splints. I've never stretched, and never had too many problems (sometimes heels though). I also feel less limber in the morning. Main thing, I think, is shoes. It's worth paying more ($150/year for exercise is cheap!) to go to a proper place that will analyze your running style on a treadmill, make the right suggestion (ie avoid going to a shitty chain store). Also, if you're used to treadmill / soft surfaces, the road takes a little while to adjust to - your shins are working slightly differently and complaining cos they're not used to it. So make that move slowly, if possible (a park with a dirt track?). Also, when they hurt, stop. It's no good trying to run through it, which can work with other kinds of running pain.
― paulhw, Wednesday, 18 March 2009 00:10 (4 years ago) Permalink
Also, harbls right about stopping if you feel like it - between each 30 min lap of the park, I often stop for a minute or two to drink water, or tighten laces, or just calm down a bit...I meant more that it's better to maintain a steady pace than to run fast for 6 minutes then stop, winded, for a few more, then gallop off again.
― paulhw, Wednesday, 18 March 2009 00:12 (4 years ago) Permalink
I get shin splints sometimes, but I can't really find a correlation between what I'm doing and the pain. A friend (Jeff, who started this thread) recommended that I get a gait test done at a one of these places http://www.fleetfeetsports.com/.
I've read that if your calves get overly strong compared to your shins, that your shins suffer.
W/r/t words of wisdom, I'll just tell you things I have done (I'm at around 6 miles max and usually 10 mpm). 1. Measure distance and time. Being on a treadmill really helped me with this. Or you can use http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/ to measure your distance.
In any case, knowing the distance you run and the time you spent was invaluable for me b/c it helped me to quantify my accomplishments, not to cheat, and to set new goals.
2. I vary my speeds and distances. I read stuff about why doing this is good, and it seems to make sense and it feels good, so I do it. I guess you get to work on both speed and endurance this way.
3. Double espresso. Especially if I'm feeling tired or unmotivated, a shot of caffeine can turn a slogging, annoying jog into a decent run. Also at times when I've been trying to push myself to new goals, this helps. (I read this in a newspaper's health section and I also read something in a Men's Health or somewhere about how a flat Coke is perfect for when you hit a wall on a long run.)
― milk plasma (Jesse), Wednesday, 18 March 2009 01:38 (4 years ago) Permalink
it's good because it is a shot of sugar, so
― i like to fart and i am crazy (gbx), Wednesday, 18 March 2009 02:00 (4 years ago) Permalink
^ yeah i've never understood this because sugary stuff when you're exercising is so gross, and causes cramps! whatever works.
anyway i've just gotten up to 6 miles (takes me an hour but oh well!) but i have trouble running during the week so i'm doing ok with long runs but not shorter, faster ones! fail.
― HHooHHHooHH-oob (harbl), Saturday, 21 March 2009 23:43 (4 years ago) Permalink
I read a magazine article posted in a coffee shop about how caffeine before running can be a good thing.
By the way, the reason I do double espresso instead of a coffee or soda is that it's more concentrated, not b/c I think it contains more caffeine. A minor peeve of mine is when people get all het up about espresso keeping you awake for days, etc.
― milk plasma (Jesse), Sunday, 22 March 2009 15:58 (4 years ago) Permalink
It's strangely ILX-ish over in that board.
― milk plasma (Jesse), Sunday, 22 March 2009 16:13 (4 years ago) Permalink
I forgot I started this thread.
Jesse, let's run today. We'll race.
― Jeff, Sunday, 22 March 2009 19:10 (4 years ago) Permalink
I won't run unless I can track it somehow. Currently I use the Garmin Forerunner 305, but I'm jealous of the smaller 405 these days.
― Jeff, Sunday, 22 March 2009 19:19 (4 years ago) Permalink
Having said that, I haven't run since 1/4/09 when I ran 2 miles in 19:21. I was so dissapointed in myself I haven't done anything since then. Plus it's been too damn cold.
― Jeff, Sunday, 22 March 2009 19:21 (4 years ago) Permalink
I have only really done any serious running on the treadmill and I will not be racing you. I will run w/ you, though not today.
― milk plasma (Jesse), Sunday, 22 March 2009 22:54 (4 years ago) Permalink
OK, I ran. 2.35 miles in 22:21. It was pretty miserable. I think I need to go to an ENT before I do that again.
― Jeff, Sunday, 22 March 2009 22:55 (4 years ago) Permalink
I want to start running. I'm afraid I'll be one of those guys that gets a heart attack immediately. Oh well. Where to start? There's a gym down the block from me that's only $5 a day. Should I be intimidated by the 'gym people?' Just bought an iPod shuffle. There are lots of nice places to run outdoors here too. Is the 'runner's high' real? Help me get started!
― If Assholes Could Fly This Place Would Be An Airport, Monday, 23 March 2009 09:08 (4 years ago) Permalink
i think the best thing is to just make a start. and don't feel bad if you go slow! i agree with that person up there that said just keep going as far as you can, even if it's just a shuffle.
I've heard this site/program is good for starting out: http://www.c25k.com/
― behind the times (gem), Monday, 23 March 2009 12:44 (4 years ago) Permalink
No need to be intimidated by the gym people - they are just there doing their thing and you don't need to worry about being judged. If you're going to run on a treadmill (which I think is good to do sometimes to get realistic assessments of progress, as discussed above) getting an employee to show you how it works could set your mind at ease. They're pretty straightforward, but still.
Also what gem said - just do what you can to begin and if you keep it up, you will be fine. Following a program would be a great idea.
I don't know about runner's high - can anyone speak to that? I've heard that it's the rush of endorphins you get at some point during a hard run, but I don't know if I've ever experienced it.
― milk plasma (Jesse), Monday, 23 March 2009 14:03 (4 years ago) Permalink
i did the couch to 5k--didnt get up to 5k but i was doing 2 miles in around 20-25 minutes when i stopped (which is a HUGE accomplishment for someone like me). i think its helpful for the kind of person (like me) who needs concrete goals, times, distances, etc. in order to feel and measure progress. without it i would end up spending a week just sort of running for half an hour at a time and abandoning it because there was no structure. once you complete the c25k you can just go out there and start doing 3 mile runs or whatever. i should take it up again really.
― rip dom passantino 3/5/09 never forget (max), Monday, 23 March 2009 14:11 (4 years ago) Permalink
i haven't gotten it recently but i did sometimes get runners high when i was in better shape, like when i was 19. i think you would know if you got it though. it feels like you don't have to try and you could keep going forever, not like the struggle it normally feels like. cruisin'
― HHooHHHooHH-oob (harbl), Monday, 23 March 2009 14:21 (4 years ago) Permalink
I have gotten that sort of feeling. I just thought it was supposed to be some sort of euphoria. Maybe my standards for euphoria are too ambitious.
― milk plasma (Jesse), Monday, 23 March 2009 15:36 (4 years ago) Permalink
lol people who tell u runners high is like ecstasy are people who have never done ecstasy--its more like "being in a good mood"
― rip dom passantino 3/5/09 never forget (max), Monday, 23 March 2009 15:37 (4 years ago) Permalink
― HHooHHHooHH-oob (harbl), Monday, 23 March 2009 15:42 (4 years ago) Permalink
i try to do btwn 3-5 miles every other day & basically track totals by month which helps a lot w/ the structure and measuring aspect
― johnny crunch, Monday, 23 March 2009 15:47 (4 years ago) Permalink
No runner's high for me. It is miserable every single step.
― Jeff, Tuesday, 24 March 2009 02:51 (4 years ago) Permalink
Every winter gets me totally out of the routine and out of shape, but I'm getting started again since the time change, and since the sidewalks haven't been iced over for a couple of weeks. (I know some people get out of bed an hour earlier to go running in the cold just before sunrise, but...no, I run because I *like* it). Right now I'm only running about 3 miles a couple times a week, and I'd like to work up to more regularly running 5 miles again, hopefully approaching 10 in the summer.
I don't think I've experienced runner's high, which I've always thought is because I like to fall into a comfortable groove that I can keep up for a long time, instead of pushing myself so hard I break through some kind of crazy physical barrier...but if it's more "cruising" and less "euphoria", maybe I have!
― Maria, Tuesday, 24 March 2009 03:06 (4 years ago) Permalink
If what I've experienced is a runner's high, and if that experience is what others consider euphoria, then I pity those people.
― milk plasma (Jesse), Tuesday, 24 March 2009 03:39 (4 years ago) Permalink
I ran 2 miles today in 18 minutes, which is Very Good.
― milk plasma (Jesse), Tuesday, 24 March 2009 03:53 (4 years ago) Permalink
i dunno it's kind of like you feel a switch go off, i really think you would know
― (lbrah) (harbl), Tuesday, 24 March 2009 11:36 (4 years ago) Permalink
also do you guys run in the morning? i can't do it, i always feel so stiff and tired, and if i plan to wake up earlier to run i just end up going back to bed. i'd like to do it in the morning just to get it done but i'm wimpy.
― (lbrah) (harbl), Tuesday, 24 March 2009 11:37 (4 years ago) Permalink
I don't even go back to bed, I can't get out of it in the first place. I ran in the morning when I first started, but I didn't need to be at work very early then, so it was easier.
― Maria, Tuesday, 24 March 2009 11:57 (4 years ago) Permalink
this goes for me the exact same.
i only run in the morning... by the end of the day my energy levels are good enough to cycle home, but not really high enough for a run
― behind the times (gem), Tuesday, 24 March 2009 12:06 (4 years ago) Permalink
yeah i don't mean i run and then get back into bed, i think i meant i go back to sleep and never get out of bed. i guess i'm a morning person but if i don't need to be somewhere i'm just going to sleep. i just need to do it and get used to it but it's easier said than done. thinking about summer though, if it's 95º during the day i should make myself run at 6 am when it's high 70s instead, or else i'll have to wait until it's dark out which is not always the best idea.
― (lbrah) (harbl), Tuesday, 24 March 2009 12:23 (4 years ago) Permalink
Jesse, when are you going to start running outside? I can't do the treadmill, I like running outside too much. I like the heat (whenever it gets here) and the lakefront views. And taking a break at the zoo.
I can't get up early to run, because I already get up at 5:30 to try and get into work by 7:00 am. To get up early would just give me so little sleep I wouldn't be able to run or work. Then I sometimes I don't leave work till 6:30 or 7:00 pm, so it's hard to get the energy to run at night either. I can't run at lunch because I don't have time and normally eat at my desk. So it's mostly weekends for me at this point. Not good for building up stamina.
I should get these today. I'm pretty excited, I'm tired of the wires of my current headphones bouncing everywhere.
― Jeff, Tuesday, 24 March 2009 12:28 (4 years ago) Permalink
I'm going to start when it gets a little warmer and isn't raining. This summer I plan not to wuss out and run indoors when it gets hot like I did last summer.
Those headphones seem pretty cool, but I do a lot of fiddling w/ volume, tracks, etc., so that might be limiting. Wires are the bane of my existence though.
I usually run in the evening right after work. For the past many days I have set my alarm so that I would get up and run in the morning, but I've been hitting snooze. When it gets lovely out I'm going to ride my bike to work which will be a nice change.
― milk plasma (Jesse), Tuesday, 24 March 2009 14:11 (4 years ago) Permalink
Oh, Jeff - why do you have to go to ENT? I'm assuming that means ear-nose-throat.
― milk plasma (Jesse), Tuesday, 24 March 2009 14:12 (4 years ago) Permalink
I prefer to run in the evenings, after work (or after sundown on weekends). I got used to this schedule because I found that during summertime, it was simply too hot to run during the day.
― NoTimeBeforeTime, Tuesday, 24 March 2009 14:57 (4 years ago) Permalink
Yeah, figuring out timing is tricky. During the winter, it's too cold to run until the evening, whereas during the summer, early mornings is best (this is NYC). Combined with a job...weekends are the only easy time.
On the runner's high thing: I never feel that euphoric. The two types for me are the cruising feeling when it feels like running is no effort, that you're almost floating, and could go on forever (happens maybe every 5th run?), and the sense of immense well-bring after a run that lasts an hour or two. But no, not ecstasy-like at all.
― paulhw, Tuesday, 24 March 2009 15:29 (4 years ago) Permalink
I'm lucky enough to work a runable distance from home, so I can do it as my commute if I want. Saves lots of time.
Easiest runners high is got from a flat run with a nice tailwind behind you, sometimes you can stop trying and just float along. Is that cheating?
― Dom Cry For Me, Passantino (NickB), Tuesday, 24 March 2009 15:36 (4 years ago) Permalink
It's a great feeling. Cheating, yeah a little. Do you shower at work?
― paulhw, Tuesday, 24 March 2009 15:38 (4 years ago) Permalink
I have a feeling of great well-being after running too. It turns my mental state around, which is great if I'm depressed or just blah. The hard part is starting running when I'm feeling blah.
Having a shower at work is great. I'm lucky to have a full home-style bathroom at work, which is great for biking in. But I live about 8 miles from my work, so I probably will never run it.
― milk plasma (Jesse), Tuesday, 24 March 2009 15:42 (4 years ago) Permalink
yeah ive gotten to the point where i feel like crap if i DONT run for 3 or 4 days. right, then also i totally sleep and feel better after i've run or exercised in some way. i go late afternoons/early evenings usually
― johnny crunch, Tuesday, 24 March 2009 15:47 (4 years ago) Permalink
Running fixes drinking.
― milk plasma (Jesse), Tuesday, 24 March 2009 15:51 (4 years ago) Permalink
The two types for me are the cruising feeling when it feels like running is no effort, that you're almost floating, and could go on forever
yeah i get this too. they seem like they last for ages, then you come out of that state and realise it only lasted for 10 mins. agree about the state of well-being post-run though - it seems obvious but my head just feels so amazingly clear after even a 25-min run. i imagine it'll get better as i start running longer, which is great motivation.
i work from home, so i run during the day when no one's around - running at the weekend and having to constantly dodge other runners, cyclists, walkers who love to gawp at struggling runners, is hellish. the ideal is to do it first thing in the morning but i have to beware the procrastination trap and getting to 1pm without doing anything cuz i'm going for a run "in a minute".
used to run with headphones but they were too much of a distraction...running without music is really good actually, you can completely clear your head.
my sinuses can be an issue esp if it's a bit cold, a snotty nose really impedes your breathing but i don't want to be stopping to blow my nose all the time.
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 24 March 2009 16:00 (4 years ago) Permalink
Yeah, the "floating" feeling is great, and it happens only every 4th or 5th run for me too. Another thing about the post-run "high" ... do you guys ever hit the pub after running? Not immediately afterward, of course, but after re-hydration, shower, food, etc. There's nothing like the taste of that first beer after a run. It's like the most refreshing drink ever.
― NoTimeBeforeTime, Tuesday, 24 March 2009 16:31 (4 years ago) Permalink
Although maybe it's not healthy to drink too soon after running? I don't do it too often though ...
― NoTimeBeforeTime, Tuesday, 24 March 2009 16:33 (4 years ago) Permalink
i love beer after a run because the alcohol hits you so fast and you can feel it in your extremities all tingly. maybe just me though.
― (lbrah) (harbl), Tuesday, 24 March 2009 16:34 (4 years ago) Permalink
after rehydrating and shower = don't really count this as after a run
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 24 March 2009 16:36 (4 years ago) Permalink
Yeah, it's not exactly "after the run", but it's still during the period of "immense well-being" that paulhw talked about, the one that lasts for an hour or two.
― NoTimeBeforeTime, Tuesday, 24 March 2009 16:44 (4 years ago) Permalink
In any case, the beer really does taste different in that situation, and that's what matters to me.
― NoTimeBeforeTime, Tuesday, 24 March 2009 16:45 (4 years ago) Permalink
i used to run at least a few miles every day but now that i'm playing pickup basketball just about every day that's more than taken its place.
― Leif ericsonned (k3vin k.), Tuesday, 24 March 2009 16:50 (4 years ago) Permalink
i love the post-run beer
― meat of beef (Jordan), Tuesday, 24 March 2009 16:52 (4 years ago) Permalink
May is DONE. 212 miles, highest ever.
that's awesome. Bring on the heat!
I've been sticking to 30/wk but have been getting back into swimming, abt a mile at a time, 2 or 3 times per week. Such a great complement to running but oh, so boring. It's as much a mental challenge to stay in the pool as it is physical.
― tobo73, Friday, 31 May 2013 00:54 (2 weeks ago) Permalink
The scariest thing about all this is that my shorts keep getting shorter. I used to be very anti-short shorts, but I tried them and I don't think I can ever go back. I'm down to a 3.5" inseam split shorts.
― Jeff, Friday, 31 May 2013 00:54 (2 weeks ago) Permalink
Thinking about starting running on my lunch hour. In DC. Right when summer kicks in. I know.
But I think my office is in the perfect place to do it. I've got a couple of bridges nearby that I can easily measure distance on. I've been doing long walks over lunch for the last couple months. It's probably just the right time for me to start.
So I'm wondering if there's any advice from other ilxors who run on their lunch hour. I haven't done any running in about 5 years, and when I did I was always setting out from home. We've got a shower at work. Bring a change of clothes, some running shoes, and a towel and I should be okay, right?
― how's life, Friday, 31 May 2013 00:55 (2 weeks ago) Permalink
Also, re: short shorts. The closest thing I have is basketball shorts. I'm going to look/feel like a goober aren't I?
No more of a goober than I do in short shorts. I'm ok with it on the lakefront path, but running down the street to get to the path past all the bro bars, I do get yelled at from time to time.
― Jeff, Friday, 31 May 2013 00:57 (2 weeks ago) Permalink
3.5 inches is pretty damn short tho, you're basically asking for it
― tobo73, Friday, 31 May 2013 00:59 (2 weeks ago) Permalink
running in the middle of the day in the summer suxxxxxx. i don't even like to run in the morning when it's less hot i just hate running in the bright sun. shower at work is cool though. that's not advice, sorry. any shorts you want are ok imo but basketball shorts are probably gonna be not so comfortable in the heat?
i just came here to say now my new thing is i just have to run more than i did last week. even if it's one minute more. so since i only ran 5k once last week i have exceeded my goal by running 20 minutes on two different days. also i am working on running slower because i always try to go too fast. it's already working. i have so much more endurance going uphill.
― veryupsetmom (harbl), Friday, 31 May 2013 01:00 (2 weeks ago) Permalink
Did 5 days of 8.5 miles this week. NY (Prospect Park) and DC (Rock Creek). 43 miles total. Use the Runkeeper app. Downloaded Mapmyrunplus, but don't like it. Long time lurker, and runner, 4 days a week. 1,800 miles a year. New music all the time.
― paulhw, Friday, 31 May 2013 02:34 (2 weeks ago) Permalink
i think i do like ~1200/yr
id actually like to run less than i do but idk what to transition to more of. i dont like biking or swimming
― johnny crunch, Friday, 31 May 2013 02:39 (2 weeks ago) Permalink
i have run 4.57 miles this week. 2 very sweaty 90 degree miles just now. all i have to do next week is run 4.58 miles. lol. i think i'll do like 6 though.
― veryupsetmom (harbl), Friday, 31 May 2013 15:19 (2 weeks ago) Permalink
yeah, I can run in crazy heat, but only before sunrise/after sunset. direct sun just saps my strength. in a couple months I'll be doing runs at sunset and it'll probably be 95 degrees out.
It's all relative. 3.75 is great if that is what you are doing!
heh, I was being silly... a year and a half ago I could do 15-20 miles a week. I'll get back there by August hopefully. I am in awe of your monthly mileage!
― the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Friday, 31 May 2013 15:32 (2 weeks ago) Permalink
I've never had too much trouble running in the heat until I started doing speed workouts. So hard to hit the goal paces. Easy running in the heat isn't too bad.
― Jeff, Friday, 31 May 2013 15:45 (2 weeks ago) Permalink
i ran 7.48 miles this week. maybe 9 or 10 next week.
― veryupsetmom (harbl), Saturday, 8 June 2013 17:25 (1 week ago) Permalink
i bought new running shoes last week -- a day's wages! -- and i haven't gotten out there yet. i can run up to 3 miles comfortably at a good pace. i'm considering bringing my dog along one of these days so i'll have company. in the past she has wanted to go too fast for me and, in general, would seem disappointed when i got tired and wanted to stop, almost embarrassed to be seen with me as i was groaning and breathing heavily but maybe that was my imagination.
― Treeship, Saturday, 8 June 2013 17:29 (1 week ago) Permalink
got struck down with a cold last sunday, so I missed a week, which is frustrating, but I'm still rarin' to go so I'm not too worried. I suspect the sudden onslaught of dieting + running made me susceptible to illness.
― the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Saturday, 8 June 2013 17:30 (1 week ago) Permalink
a day's wages!
does anyone have any experience with Target, K-Mart, or other off-brand running shoes? Wondering if there are any "secret weapons" out there.
― how's life, Saturday, 8 June 2013 17:55 (1 week ago) Permalink
― how's life, Saturday, 8 June 2013 17:56 (1 week ago) Permalink
I usually look for shoes that are on clearance... try 6pm.com, or normal running shoe places and sort by price from low to high.
― the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Saturday, 8 June 2013 17:57 (1 week ago) Permalink
i got brooks pureflow at nordstrom rack for like $55 and i love them. my old shoes were $110, i got fitted for them at the running store, and they made my feet cramp.
― veryupsetmom (harbl), Saturday, 8 June 2013 18:21 (1 week ago) Permalink
Yeah, I'm already pretty good at finding $40-$50 shoes at DSW or wherever. I hadn't heard about 6pm.com, so thank you. That'll be another option. What I'm really interested in is what happens when you push the price down into the $20-$30 range. I mean, conventional wisdom would be that I'd regret it, and I really don't want to fuck around with my feet. Just wondering if there's some like "basic dudes don't know this, but this K-mart off-brand sneaker is made in the same factory as ...." or whatever.
― how's life, Saturday, 8 June 2013 18:27 (1 week ago) Permalink
Ran Ragnar Chicago. Very tired now. Relays are different, different challenges. Ended up running each leg much faster than I had anticipated, but once I started passing people, I became addicted. Slept maybe 1 hour in two days.
― Jeff, Saturday, 8 June 2013 20:43 (1 week ago) Permalink
hahaha, thanks for asking, because I hit up 6pm.com and they have Fila Simulite 2s on sale for $30!
― the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Saturday, 8 June 2013 20:44 (1 week ago) Permalink
The truth about shoes is they probably don't matter nearly as much as people think they do.
― the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Saturday, 8 June 2013 20:53 (1 week ago) Permalink
hello runners. i am much less fit than when i last posted in this thread, but have started running/exercising again partly in terror at being out of shape. ran the manchester 10k two weeks ago, which was a fun day & hectic & i was v pleased to completely knacker myself to get under an hour (quite a bit faster than i'd been training), but really feeling the extra stone or two i've put on since i was last running. i am now a gymist, so i'll see how it goes.
― ogmor, Saturday, 8 June 2013 21:13 (1 week ago) Permalink
The truth about shoes is they probably don't matter nearly as much as people think they do.― the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Saturday, June 8, 2013 3:53 PM (6 days ago)
― the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Saturday, June 8, 2013 3:53 PM (6 days ago)
Pretty much OTM. I really like simple shoes, that are light and offer moderate cushioning. No crazy stuff. Currently really liking my Asics Gel-Lyte 33 2's (despite the stupid name).
― Jeff, Friday, 14 June 2013 15:48 (5 days ago) Permalink
Have been alternating between Asics Gel Hyper 33's and Asics Gel Excel 33's. No idea what the technical difference is between those and your shoes but I think they're pretty similar and I like them a lot. Mine are both in a really nasty fluorescent yellowish-green cos they were on special offer. Only reservation about them is that the upper seems to wear thin quite quickly over my big toes, but maybe that's just my feet.
― dschinghis kraan (NickB), Friday, 14 June 2013 16:11 (5 days ago) Permalink
I basically end up buying every single color scheme of the models I use. Easier to tell them apart so I can keep track of miles.
― Jeff, Friday, 14 June 2013 16:44 (5 days ago) Permalink
10K race today. Finished in 42:59 which is a PR by 1:54. It was warm. Now I'll officially start marathon training for the fall.
― Jeff, Monday, 17 June 2013 00:53 (2 days ago) Permalink
― fill up at the ilx quipnjibe (Hunt3r), Monday, 17 June 2013 01:45 (2 days ago) Permalink