Britpop : Time For Reevaluation?

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"upstarts".

Everyone's a freaking upstart in the NME.

― everything, Saturday, 10 March 2007 21:11 (seventeen years ago) link

Oh, and the best bit? It's a tough call, but THIS is the winner:

swaggering U2-like guitars shimmer by, all blessed with an unmistakable skunk-rock scuzziness.

UUUUUUUUH

― unfished business, Saturday, 10 March 2007 21:14 (seventeen years ago) link

(downloads "Wide Awake"; gives it a couple listens)

This is terrible.

― Mr. Snrub, Saturday, 10 March 2007 21:45 (seventeen years ago) link

So you see. You've only just SCRATCHED THE FUCKING SURFACE, dude.

― unfished business, Saturday, 10 March 2007 21:46 (seventeen years ago) link

But what does GEIR think?!

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy, Saturday, 10 March 2007 22:06 (seventeen years ago) link

I haven't heard The Twang, but from the description they sound great. Guitar based archetypically British pop/rock with a heavy empasis on songwriting and melodies usually is.

― Geir Hongro, Sunday, 11 March 2007 12:47 (seventeen years ago) link

Well, this Twang song is really crap: U2 meets Hard-Fi, at first listen.

― zeus, Sunday, 11 March 2007 13:01 (seventeen years ago) link

Mr Twang - 'Wide Awake'

― Mr. Snrub, Sunday, 11 March 2007 16:57 (seventeen years ago) link

What? You can't post links to YouTube on here?!?!?!?

― Mr. Snrub, Sunday, 11 March 2007 16:57 (seventeen years ago) link

Blur B-Sides still WIPE THE FLOOR with whatever else you care to mention. Throw Oasis and Boo Radleys out with the rubbish. And take Ocean Colour Scene while you're at it.

― Bimble, Sunday, 11 March 2007 17:12 (seventeen years ago) link

"No one can see when they get mace in their eye-eye-eye-eyes!"

Blur rule.

― Bimble, Sunday, 11 March 2007 17:32 (seventeen years ago) link

you better take that back about the boos. in fact i'm surprised you champion blur b-sides and not the boo radleys when really they're practically the same thing.

― the next grozart, Sunday, 11 March 2007 18:18 (seventeen years ago) link

You put my ignorance to shame, Grozart, I've greatly appreciated your posts earlier on this thread.

― Bimble, Sunday, 11 March 2007 19:08 (seventeen years ago) link

bimble, have you heard a boo radleys song that is not a) wake up boo or b) i hang suspended (single version)?

― unfished business, Sunday, 11 March 2007 19:28 (seventeen years ago) link

Throw them ALL out for all I care.

― fandango, Sunday, 11 March 2007 19:30 (seventeen years ago) link

:-) Bimble just promise me you'll give Giant Steps a go - it's pre-Britpop shoegaze-psychdub wonderment from 1993. If you can't be bothered then at least get the song "Blues For George Michael", an 8-minute epic B-side that really should've been an A-side in a perfect world.

Funny you mention "I Hang Suspended" Louis, as I thought it was normally 'It's Lulu', 'C'mon Kids' or even 'Wish I Was Skinny' that get dropped as "the only other Boo song I know". This is a shame as they're all relatively mediocre straight-up pop songs that were released as singles but were never really representative of their more left-leaning stuff.

Sad to see such a great band immortalised as a cheesy second-rate Britpop group with two songs, but I guess that's what you get for releasing boring singles. I say singles, I really mean "A-Sides" as the Boos, along with Blur, had one of the most fun and most eclectic back catalogues of B-sides in all of pop in my opinion.

That said, I did always like I Hang Suspended (not really very adventurous but a nice noise all the same). Lazarus is their only other true anthem single (after Wake Up Boo of course which I understand can leave a bad taste in the mouth but is still classic in my book). 'Ride The Tiger' was good too, despite the slightly dicky lyrics but the version released as a single missed out the cool psychedelic middle-eighth jam with the animal toys and swirly organ which on the album is kind of crucial to it being a wicked song.

― the next grozart, Sunday, 11 March 2007 22:20 (seventeen years ago) link

Argh, I went to their myspace to see if The Twang could possibly be so bad and good lord, they are terrible!
Where on earth is the baggy element or the rave like euphoria? The sub-Edge delay and chorus soaked guitars are horrible and the drums lumpen. And the singing? Dreadful.
Worse still, the picture on the myspace player for Wide Awake is a bunch of pills. Ooh! Controversy! Danger! Opportunistic bullshit.

― Stew, Monday, 12 March 2007 00:55 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm just waiting for the NME to hype a band called The Shitehawks. Someone start it please.

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy, Monday, 12 March 2007 01:40 (seventeen years ago) link

Oh and if only the Britpop bands had the vision to create and album like "Giant Steps".

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy, Monday, 12 March 2007 01:41 (seventeen years ago) link

I can't even see a Verve or Spiritualized coming through from the current lot of NME Carling Rock bands.

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy, Monday, 12 March 2007 01:42 (seventeen years ago) link

Thank feck for that.

― Marcello Carlin, Monday, 12 March 2007 08:49 (seventeen years ago) link

Surely the plodding, pseudo-meaningful balladry of Coldplay, Keane et al owes a lot to the Verve - more than to Radiohead arguably.
After all, didn't Chris Martin introduce Bittersweet Symphony as "the best song ever" (what's he on?) when they performed it with Dickie Ashcroft at Live8?

― Stew, Monday, 12 March 2007 08:59 (seventeen years ago) link

I was more thinking of Early Verve, you know, before they were The verve.

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy, Monday, 12 March 2007 09:23 (seventeen years ago) link

Why did I say Early with a capital E? Anyway none of those bands could lace the boots of any era of them.

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy, Monday, 12 March 2007 09:25 (seventeen years ago) link

Has there ever been a rock group named Early?

"Early" Verve is a good call, however.

― Marcello Carlin, Monday, 12 March 2007 09:40 (seventeen years ago) link

There is a group called Earlies now.

― zeus, Monday, 12 March 2007 13:42 (seventeen years ago) link

Surely the plodding, pseudo-meaningful balladry of Coldplay, Keane et al owes a lot to the Verve - more than to Radiohead arguably. [i]

There were two sides to Verve. Coldplay, Keane and Travis owe a lot to the good side of Verve, the great songwriting side that gave us such great classic songs as "The Drugs Don't Work" and "Sonnet". However, The Verve also had another side, consisting of boring overlong "jams" mostly based on only one chord. And luckily Coldplay etc. haven't paid much attention to that heritage.

Other than that, there [i]is a lot of "The Bends" era Radiohead in their style, but also lots of U2 and a-ha. (Travis and Keane are great a-ha fans)

― Geir Hongro, Monday, 12 March 2007 13:51 (seventeen years ago) link

Oh and if only the Britpop bands had the vision to create and album like "Giant Steps".

Would have been a lot better if Boo Radleys had created more albums like "Wake Up" instead. Lots of screaming and noise just doesn't make good pop music.

― Geir Hongro, Monday, 12 March 2007 13:52 (seventeen years ago) link

This thread goes from strength to strength.

― Dom Passantino, Monday, 12 March 2007 13:54 (seventeen years ago) link

Lots of screaming and noise just doesn't make good pop music.

Beatles to thread.

― Marcello Carlin, Monday, 12 March 2007 13:57 (seventeen years ago) link

Geeeeiiiirrrr...!!!

― the next grozart, Monday, 12 March 2007 14:33 (seventeen years ago) link

Geir excels himself again.

Marcello OTM

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy, Monday, 12 March 2007 14:34 (seventeen years ago) link

ten months pass...

Oasis and Blur have reportedly been lined up to appear in a Britpop special of The Weakest Link.

The show's bosses have contacted Noel Gallagher, Liam Gallagher, Damon Albarn and Alex James to appear in the episode of the gameshow, according to the Daily Star.

"If we can pull this off it would be unbelievable," commented a BBC source. "Noel Gallagher admits he’s a Weakest Link fan."

Other stars that bosses want to have on the show include Pulp's Jarvis Cocker, Elastica's Justine Frischmann, Manic Street Preachers' James Dean Bradfield and Suede's Brett Anderson.

― blueski, Thursday, 17 January 2008 16:33 (sixteen years ago) link

Shit will be pointless without Johnny Dean.

― The blue-green world is drenched with horse gore, Thursday, 17 January 2008 16:37 (sixteen years ago) link

Predicted final line-up:

Bonehead
Neil Codling
Gary Crowley
Fruitbat
Chris Gentry
Tony McCarroll
John Power
Matthew Priest
Russell Senior
Louise Wener

― Dingbod Kesterson, Thursday, 17 January 2008 16:44 (sixteen years ago) link

if they got Noel and Damon would watch it for sure.

― chap, Thursday, 17 January 2008 16:45 (sixteen years ago) link

No Drummer from Gay Dad?

― Tom D., Thursday, 17 January 2008 16:45 (sixteen years ago) link

He's too busy fearing breakbeats in the shires.

― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 17 January 2008 16:47 (sixteen years ago) link

Luke Haines
Crispin Hunt
Suggs
Curly-haired twat who used to drum for Stereophonics
Some bloke you don't recognise in a stupid hat
Skin

― The blue-green world is drenched with horse gore, Thursday, 17 January 2008 16:48 (sixteen years ago) link

Junkie wife of dude from Supergrass

― Dom Passantino, Thursday, 17 January 2008 16:49 (sixteen years ago) link

John Robb will be on it

― Herman G. Neuname, Thursday, 17 January 2008 16:49 (sixteen years ago) link

Then I won't be watching it

― Tom D., Thursday, 17 January 2008 16:50 (sixteen years ago) link

At least one of Terrorvision.

― chap, Thursday, 17 January 2008 16:51 (sixteen years ago) link

Crispian Mills
Buster Bloodvessel
Danbert Nobacon
Bez
Crispin Glover
Beaky

― The blue-green world is drenched with horse gore, Thursday, 17 January 2008 16:52 (sixteen years ago) link

Some bloke you don't recognise in a stupid hat = Shovel Out Of M People

― Dingbod Kesterson, Thursday, 17 January 2008 16:54 (sixteen years ago) link

Nah, I recognise Shovel. He's that bloke in the stupid hat out of M People.

― The blue-green world is drenched with horse gore, Thursday, 17 January 2008 16:54 (sixteen years ago) link

I feel a Weakest Link "Some bloke you don't recognise in a stupid hat" Special is but months away

― Tom D., Thursday, 17 January 2008 16:55 (sixteen years ago) link

MC Tunes

― The blue-green world is drenched with horse gore, Thursday, 17 January 2008 16:55 (sixteen years ago) link

Freddie Garrity
that dead bloke out of Lush
Mika
Jack White

― The blue-green world is drenched with horse gore, Thursday, 17 January 2008 16:56 (sixteen years ago) link

Freddie's Dead

― Tom D., Thursday, 17 January 2008 16:57 (sixteen years ago) link

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