Today: 5k in an exhausting 27 mins.
― ledge, Tuesday, 17 March 2009 19:00 (4 years ago) Permalink
yeah i'm starting this tomorrow, i've made a couple false starts the last few months but time to be less slothful
― velko, Tuesday, 17 March 2009 19:52 (4 years ago) Permalink
Hmm, the splints. I've never stretched, and never had too many problems (sometimes heels though). I also feel less limber in the morning. Main thing, I think, is shoes. It's worth paying more ($150/year for exercise is cheap!) to go to a proper place that will analyze your running style on a treadmill, make the right suggestion (ie avoid going to a shitty chain store). Also, if you're used to treadmill / soft surfaces, the road takes a little while to adjust to - your shins are working slightly differently and complaining cos they're not used to it. So make that move slowly, if possible (a park with a dirt track?). Also, when they hurt, stop. It's no good trying to run through it, which can work with other kinds of running pain.
― paulhw, Wednesday, 18 March 2009 00:10 (4 years ago) Permalink
Also, harbls right about stopping if you feel like it - between each 30 min lap of the park, I often stop for a minute or two to drink water, or tighten laces, or just calm down a bit...I meant more that it's better to maintain a steady pace than to run fast for 6 minutes then stop, winded, for a few more, then gallop off again.
― paulhw, Wednesday, 18 March 2009 00:12 (4 years ago) Permalink
I get shin splints sometimes, but I can't really find a correlation between what I'm doing and the pain. A friend (Jeff, who started this thread) recommended that I get a gait test done at a one of these places http://www.fleetfeetsports.com/.
I've read that if your calves get overly strong compared to your shins, that your shins suffer.
W/r/t words of wisdom, I'll just tell you things I have done (I'm at around 6 miles max and usually 10 mpm). 1. Measure distance and time. Being on a treadmill really helped me with this. Or you can use http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/ to measure your distance.
In any case, knowing the distance you run and the time you spent was invaluable for me b/c it helped me to quantify my accomplishments, not to cheat, and to set new goals.
2. I vary my speeds and distances. I read stuff about why doing this is good, and it seems to make sense and it feels good, so I do it. I guess you get to work on both speed and endurance this way.
3. Double espresso. Especially if I'm feeling tired or unmotivated, a shot of caffeine can turn a slogging, annoying jog into a decent run. Also at times when I've been trying to push myself to new goals, this helps. (I read this in a newspaper's health section and I also read something in a Men's Health or somewhere about how a flat Coke is perfect for when you hit a wall on a long run.)
― milk plasma (Jesse), Wednesday, 18 March 2009 01:38 (4 years ago) Permalink
it's good because it is a shot of sugar, so
― i like to fart and i am crazy (gbx), Wednesday, 18 March 2009 02:00 (4 years ago) Permalink
^ yeah i've never understood this because sugary stuff when you're exercising is so gross, and causes cramps! whatever works.
anyway i've just gotten up to 6 miles (takes me an hour but oh well!) but i have trouble running during the week so i'm doing ok with long runs but not shorter, faster ones! fail.
― HHooHHHooHH-oob (harbl), Saturday, 21 March 2009 23:43 (4 years ago) Permalink
I read a magazine article posted in a coffee shop about how caffeine before running can be a good thing.
By the way, the reason I do double espresso instead of a coffee or soda is that it's more concentrated, not b/c I think it contains more caffeine. A minor peeve of mine is when people get all het up about espresso keeping you awake for days, etc.
― milk plasma (Jesse), Sunday, 22 March 2009 15:58 (4 years ago) Permalink
It's strangely ILX-ish over in that board.
― milk plasma (Jesse), Sunday, 22 March 2009 16:13 (4 years ago) Permalink
I forgot I started this thread.
Jesse, let's run today. We'll race.
― Jeff, Sunday, 22 March 2009 19:10 (4 years ago) Permalink
I won't run unless I can track it somehow. Currently I use the Garmin Forerunner 305, but I'm jealous of the smaller 405 these days.
― Jeff, Sunday, 22 March 2009 19:19 (4 years ago) Permalink
Having said that, I haven't run since 1/4/09 when I ran 2 miles in 19:21. I was so dissapointed in myself I haven't done anything since then. Plus it's been too damn cold.
― Jeff, Sunday, 22 March 2009 19:21 (4 years ago) Permalink
I have only really done any serious running on the treadmill and I will not be racing you. I will run w/ you, though not today.
― milk plasma (Jesse), Sunday, 22 March 2009 22:54 (4 years ago) Permalink
OK, I ran. 2.35 miles in 22:21. It was pretty miserable. I think I need to go to an ENT before I do that again.
― Jeff, Sunday, 22 March 2009 22:55 (4 years ago) Permalink
I want to start running. I'm afraid I'll be one of those guys that gets a heart attack immediately. Oh well. Where to start? There's a gym down the block from me that's only $5 a day. Should I be intimidated by the 'gym people?' Just bought an iPod shuffle. There are lots of nice places to run outdoors here too. Is the 'runner's high' real? Help me get started!
― If Assholes Could Fly This Place Would Be An Airport, Monday, 23 March 2009 09:08 (4 years ago) Permalink
i think the best thing is to just make a start. and don't feel bad if you go slow! i agree with that person up there that said just keep going as far as you can, even if it's just a shuffle.
I've heard this site/program is good for starting out: http://www.c25k.com/
― behind the times (gem), Monday, 23 March 2009 12:44 (4 years ago) Permalink
No need to be intimidated by the gym people - they are just there doing their thing and you don't need to worry about being judged. If you're going to run on a treadmill (which I think is good to do sometimes to get realistic assessments of progress, as discussed above) getting an employee to show you how it works could set your mind at ease. They're pretty straightforward, but still.
Also what gem said - just do what you can to begin and if you keep it up, you will be fine. Following a program would be a great idea.
I don't know about runner's high - can anyone speak to that? I've heard that it's the rush of endorphins you get at some point during a hard run, but I don't know if I've ever experienced it.
― milk plasma (Jesse), Monday, 23 March 2009 14:03 (4 years ago) Permalink
i did the couch to 5k--didnt get up to 5k but i was doing 2 miles in around 20-25 minutes when i stopped (which is a HUGE accomplishment for someone like me). i think its helpful for the kind of person (like me) who needs concrete goals, times, distances, etc. in order to feel and measure progress. without it i would end up spending a week just sort of running for half an hour at a time and abandoning it because there was no structure. once you complete the c25k you can just go out there and start doing 3 mile runs or whatever. i should take it up again really.
― rip dom passantino 3/5/09 never forget (max), Monday, 23 March 2009 14:11 (4 years ago) Permalink
i haven't gotten it recently but i did sometimes get runners high when i was in better shape, like when i was 19. i think you would know if you got it though. it feels like you don't have to try and you could keep going forever, not like the struggle it normally feels like. cruisin'
― HHooHHHooHH-oob (harbl), Monday, 23 March 2009 14:21 (4 years ago) Permalink
I have gotten that sort of feeling. I just thought it was supposed to be some sort of euphoria. Maybe my standards for euphoria are too ambitious.
― milk plasma (Jesse), Monday, 23 March 2009 15:36 (4 years ago) Permalink
lol people who tell u runners high is like ecstasy are people who have never done ecstasy--its more like "being in a good mood"
― rip dom passantino 3/5/09 never forget (max), Monday, 23 March 2009 15:37 (4 years ago) Permalink
― HHooHHHooHH-oob (harbl), Monday, 23 March 2009 15:42 (4 years ago) Permalink
i try to do btwn 3-5 miles every other day & basically track totals by month which helps a lot w/ the structure and measuring aspect
― johnny crunch, Monday, 23 March 2009 15:47 (4 years ago) Permalink
No runner's high for me. It is miserable every single step.
― Jeff, Tuesday, 24 March 2009 02:51 (4 years ago) Permalink
Every winter gets me totally out of the routine and out of shape, but I'm getting started again since the time change, and since the sidewalks haven't been iced over for a couple of weeks. (I know some people get out of bed an hour earlier to go running in the cold just before sunrise, but...no, I run because I *like* it). Right now I'm only running about 3 miles a couple times a week, and I'd like to work up to more regularly running 5 miles again, hopefully approaching 10 in the summer.
I don't think I've experienced runner's high, which I've always thought is because I like to fall into a comfortable groove that I can keep up for a long time, instead of pushing myself so hard I break through some kind of crazy physical barrier...but if it's more "cruising" and less "euphoria", maybe I have!
― Maria, Tuesday, 24 March 2009 03:06 (4 years ago) Permalink
If what I've experienced is a runner's high, and if that experience is what others consider euphoria, then I pity those people.
― milk plasma (Jesse), Tuesday, 24 March 2009 03:39 (4 years ago) Permalink
I ran 2 miles today in 18 minutes, which is Very Good.
― milk plasma (Jesse), Tuesday, 24 March 2009 03:53 (4 years ago) Permalink
i dunno it's kind of like you feel a switch go off, i really think you would know
― (lbrah) (harbl), Tuesday, 24 March 2009 11:36 (4 years ago) Permalink
also do you guys run in the morning? i can't do it, i always feel so stiff and tired, and if i plan to wake up earlier to run i just end up going back to bed. i'd like to do it in the morning just to get it done but i'm wimpy.
― (lbrah) (harbl), Tuesday, 24 March 2009 11:37 (4 years ago) Permalink
I don't even go back to bed, I can't get out of it in the first place. I ran in the morning when I first started, but I didn't need to be at work very early then, so it was easier.
― Maria, Tuesday, 24 March 2009 11:57 (4 years ago) Permalink
this goes for me the exact same.
i only run in the morning... by the end of the day my energy levels are good enough to cycle home, but not really high enough for a run
― behind the times (gem), Tuesday, 24 March 2009 12:06 (4 years ago) Permalink
yeah i don't mean i run and then get back into bed, i think i meant i go back to sleep and never get out of bed. i guess i'm a morning person but if i don't need to be somewhere i'm just going to sleep. i just need to do it and get used to it but it's easier said than done. thinking about summer though, if it's 95º during the day i should make myself run at 6 am when it's high 70s instead, or else i'll have to wait until it's dark out which is not always the best idea.
― (lbrah) (harbl), Tuesday, 24 March 2009 12:23 (4 years ago) Permalink
Jesse, when are you going to start running outside? I can't do the treadmill, I like running outside too much. I like the heat (whenever it gets here) and the lakefront views. And taking a break at the zoo.
I can't get up early to run, because I already get up at 5:30 to try and get into work by 7:00 am. To get up early would just give me so little sleep I wouldn't be able to run or work. Then I sometimes I don't leave work till 6:30 or 7:00 pm, so it's hard to get the energy to run at night either. I can't run at lunch because I don't have time and normally eat at my desk. So it's mostly weekends for me at this point. Not good for building up stamina.
I should get these today. I'm pretty excited, I'm tired of the wires of my current headphones bouncing everywhere.
― Jeff, Tuesday, 24 March 2009 12:28 (4 years ago) Permalink
I'm going to start when it gets a little warmer and isn't raining. This summer I plan not to wuss out and run indoors when it gets hot like I did last summer.
Those headphones seem pretty cool, but I do a lot of fiddling w/ volume, tracks, etc., so that might be limiting. Wires are the bane of my existence though.
I usually run in the evening right after work. For the past many days I have set my alarm so that I would get up and run in the morning, but I've been hitting snooze. When it gets lovely out I'm going to ride my bike to work which will be a nice change.
― milk plasma (Jesse), Tuesday, 24 March 2009 14:11 (4 years ago) Permalink
Oh, Jeff - why do you have to go to ENT? I'm assuming that means ear-nose-throat.
― milk plasma (Jesse), Tuesday, 24 March 2009 14:12 (4 years ago) Permalink
I prefer to run in the evenings, after work (or after sundown on weekends). I got used to this schedule because I found that during summertime, it was simply too hot to run during the day.
― NoTimeBeforeTime, Tuesday, 24 March 2009 14:57 (4 years ago) Permalink
Yeah, figuring out timing is tricky. During the winter, it's too cold to run until the evening, whereas during the summer, early mornings is best (this is NYC). Combined with a job...weekends are the only easy time.
On the runner's high thing: I never feel that euphoric. The two types for me are the cruising feeling when it feels like running is no effort, that you're almost floating, and could go on forever (happens maybe every 5th run?), and the sense of immense well-bring after a run that lasts an hour or two. But no, not ecstasy-like at all.
― paulhw, Tuesday, 24 March 2009 15:29 (4 years ago) Permalink
I'm lucky enough to work a runable distance from home, so I can do it as my commute if I want. Saves lots of time.
Easiest runners high is got from a flat run with a nice tailwind behind you, sometimes you can stop trying and just float along. Is that cheating?
― Dom Cry For Me, Passantino (NickB), Tuesday, 24 March 2009 15:36 (4 years ago) Permalink
It's a great feeling. Cheating, yeah a little. Do you shower at work?
― paulhw, Tuesday, 24 March 2009 15:38 (4 years ago) Permalink
I have a feeling of great well-being after running too. It turns my mental state around, which is great if I'm depressed or just blah. The hard part is starting running when I'm feeling blah.
Having a shower at work is great. I'm lucky to have a full home-style bathroom at work, which is great for biking in. But I live about 8 miles from my work, so I probably will never run it.
― milk plasma (Jesse), Tuesday, 24 March 2009 15:42 (4 years ago) Permalink
yeah ive gotten to the point where i feel like crap if i DONT run for 3 or 4 days. right, then also i totally sleep and feel better after i've run or exercised in some way. i go late afternoons/early evenings usually
― johnny crunch, Tuesday, 24 March 2009 15:47 (4 years ago) Permalink
Running fixes drinking.
― milk plasma (Jesse), Tuesday, 24 March 2009 15:51 (4 years ago) Permalink
The two types for me are the cruising feeling when it feels like running is no effort, that you're almost floating, and could go on forever
yeah i get this too. they seem like they last for ages, then you come out of that state and realise it only lasted for 10 mins. agree about the state of well-being post-run though - it seems obvious but my head just feels so amazingly clear after even a 25-min run. i imagine it'll get better as i start running longer, which is great motivation.
i work from home, so i run during the day when no one's around - running at the weekend and having to constantly dodge other runners, cyclists, walkers who love to gawp at struggling runners, is hellish. the ideal is to do it first thing in the morning but i have to beware the procrastination trap and getting to 1pm without doing anything cuz i'm going for a run "in a minute".
used to run with headphones but they were too much of a distraction...running without music is really good actually, you can completely clear your head.
my sinuses can be an issue esp if it's a bit cold, a snotty nose really impedes your breathing but i don't want to be stopping to blow my nose all the time.
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 24 March 2009 16:00 (4 years ago) Permalink
Yeah, the "floating" feeling is great, and it happens only every 4th or 5th run for me too. Another thing about the post-run "high" ... do you guys ever hit the pub after running? Not immediately afterward, of course, but after re-hydration, shower, food, etc. There's nothing like the taste of that first beer after a run. It's like the most refreshing drink ever.
― NoTimeBeforeTime, Tuesday, 24 March 2009 16:31 (4 years ago) Permalink
Although maybe it's not healthy to drink too soon after running? I don't do it too often though ...
― NoTimeBeforeTime, Tuesday, 24 March 2009 16:33 (4 years ago) Permalink
i love beer after a run because the alcohol hits you so fast and you can feel it in your extremities all tingly. maybe just me though.
― (lbrah) (harbl), Tuesday, 24 March 2009 16:34 (4 years ago) Permalink
after rehydrating and shower = don't really count this as after a run
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 24 March 2009 16:36 (4 years ago) Permalink
Yeah, it's not exactly "after the run", but it's still during the period of "immense well-being" that paulhw talked about, the one that lasts for an hour or two.
― NoTimeBeforeTime, Tuesday, 24 March 2009 16:44 (4 years ago) Permalink
In any case, the beer really does taste different in that situation, and that's what matters to me.
― NoTimeBeforeTime, Tuesday, 24 March 2009 16:45 (4 years ago) Permalink
i used to run at least a few miles every day but now that i'm playing pickup basketball just about every day that's more than taken its place.
― Leif ericsonned (k3vin k.), Tuesday, 24 March 2009 16:50 (4 years ago) Permalink
― Jeff, Wednesday, 17 April 2013 21:26 (1 month ago) Permalink
really just getting those carbs/protein ASAP
― Jeff, Wednesday, 17 April 2013 21:27 (1 month ago) Permalink
Z, how much are you running and are you drinking water right before running? If you are, maybe decrease your water intake as you get closer to go for a run?
― c21m50nh3x460n, Wednesday, 17 April 2013 21:34 (1 month ago) Permalink
running about 4-5 miles. usually i run right after i get home, which is after a 20 minute bike ride, so i have about a full glass of water.
― your holiness, we have an official energy drink (Z S), Wednesday, 17 April 2013 21:40 (1 month ago) Permalink
and yeah, i'm probably having the glass of water maybe 10 minutes before i run. d'oh!
― your holiness, we have an official energy drink (Z S), Wednesday, 17 April 2013 21:41 (1 month ago) Permalink
I eat a graham cracker before I go out but I usually go in the morning.
― and that sounds like a gong-concert (La Lechera), Wednesday, 17 April 2013 21:47 (1 month ago) Permalink
If I run in the morning (rarely), I always eat two toaster waffles with jam/peanut butter, banana, and coffee. This is usually 1.5 hours before the start of my run.
― Jeff, Wednesday, 17 April 2013 22:00 (1 month ago) Permalink
wow, thx for all the great info, c21m50nh3x460n, whoever you are!
― 1 P.3. Eternal (roxymuzak), Thursday, 18 April 2013 13:23 (1 month ago) Permalink
― your holiness, we have an official energy drink (Z S), Thursday, 18 April 2013 16:03 (1 month ago) Permalink
After my last bonkathon, I refer to these two books often for nutrition advice:
― Jeff, Thursday, 18 April 2013 16:08 (1 month ago) Permalink
10 mile race yesterday, finished in 1:12:24. I was looking to be around 1:10 to 1:13, so I'm happy with the effort.
― Jeff, Sunday, 21 April 2013 12:24 (4 weeks ago) Permalink
I have a love/hate relationship with racing. It was pretty much 1:12 of pain and unpleasantness. But then once I finished, it was awesome! But then the thought of racing again to try and run even faster and experiencing even more suffering seems unappealing. But then I want to feel awesome again. So I'll race again.
― Jeff, Sunday, 21 April 2013 12:56 (4 weeks ago) Permalink
that's why i want to stick with 5k for now. even though i'm so slow, it hurts. i ran yesterday. it was fun.
― veryupsetmom (harbl), Sunday, 21 April 2013 14:56 (4 weeks ago) Permalink
great run today! accidentally tied my distance record from last year (although i noticed that last year i ran it about 30 seconds/mile faster). but the best part was that i felt really good the whole time, had steady, slow breathing the whole time, and probably could have pushed myself another mile if i had to. it feels so good to have a run like that!
― your holiness, we have an official energy drink (Z S), Tuesday, 30 April 2013 01:08 (2 weeks ago) Permalink
I love the mood at races, but I want them to remain special so I only do one or two a year. Also they tend to be on all pavement, and I run on trails, so that exacts a physical toll.
― the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Tuesday, 30 April 2013 01:15 (2 weeks ago) Permalink
Perfect running weather today. 66 degrees, sunny, light breeze. 15 miles in 2 hours, my best long run in awhile.
― Jeff, Saturday, 4 May 2013 17:39 (2 weeks ago) Permalink
i signed up for a 5k to motivate myself to run again. i use runkeeper but i turned off all the notifications except for time because the rest of it was too distracting. but i estimated based on my recent runs that i'd probably run the 5k in around 35 minutes so yesterday i said i would run for 35 minutes and not worry about the distance. i ran for exactly 35 minutes, turned off runkeeper, and i had gone exactly 3.11 miles.
― congratulations (n/a), Thursday, 9 May 2013 20:28 (1 week ago) Permalink
The 5k during craft beer week?
― Jeff, Thursday, 9 May 2013 20:29 (1 week ago) Permalink
yeah. sounded fun + more affordable than most of the other 5ks i saw. i should find one in june though too so i don't just stop again. i have shitty willpower so i need external motivation like not embarrassing myself in public.
― congratulations (n/a), Thursday, 9 May 2013 20:32 (1 week ago) Permalink
It should be a good time. It will be interesting to see how many people show up since most of the beer nerds are going to be hungover from the night before.
― Jeff, Thursday, 9 May 2013 20:55 (1 week ago) Permalink
n/a, if you're interested, Carl and I are doing the Race Against Hate 5k/10k up in Evanston on 6/16. I'm racing the 10k, she's walking the 5k. It's $32 right now, but goes up to $35 on 5/15.
― Jeff, Friday, 10 May 2013 14:22 (1 week ago) Permalink
cool, i'll think about it.
― congratulations (n/a), Friday, 10 May 2013 14:28 (1 week ago) Permalink
just ran my first ever 10K (just around my neighborhood, not in a race or anything) then added an extra half mile at the end for good measure :)
― your holiness, we have an official energy drink (Z S), Monday, 13 May 2013 23:59 (6 days ago) Permalink
i had intended on doing this on my 30th birthday in a few days, but now i don't have to live in fear of terrible failure. or at least, not not in fear of THAT terrible failure.
― your holiness, we have an official energy drink (Z S), Tuesday, 14 May 2013 00:00 (5 days ago) Permalink
30 years and i still can't talk american
High five on the 10k, old man.
― Jeff, Tuesday, 14 May 2013 02:18 (5 days ago) Permalink
FLYING INSECTS ;_; ;_; ;_;
i know all other runners will feel my pain here
― flamenco drop (lex pretend), Thursday, 16 May 2013 12:59 (3 days ago) Permalink
― dschinghis kraan (NickB), Thursday, 16 May 2013 13:02 (3 days ago) Permalink
also nice work ZS
― dschinghis kraan (NickB), Thursday, 16 May 2013 13:03 (3 days ago) Permalink
My face and neck is covered with the corpses of bugs after my run.
― Jeff, Thursday, 16 May 2013 14:42 (3 days ago) Permalink