Grimes/Claire Boucher thread

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Can't imagine Grimes reasons for saying "Madonna sucks now" in that video were much or any different from Ariel Pinks, i.e, the same opinion of everybody on why she sucks now.

― Raccoon Tanuki, Thursday, October 16, 2014 2:33 PM (17 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

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Tim F, Thursday, 16 October 2014 14:52 (nine years ago) link

there's just something so goofy about the "woah, woah, the guy who casually says sexist shit may be a jerk, but that doesn't mean he's a real-deal, dyed-in-the-wool, my-woman-belongs-in-the-kitchen SEXIST" argument, as if it's important everyone be really delicate and careful in our estimation of egomaniacs who clearly don't give a fuck

da croupier, Thursday, 16 October 2014 14:53 (nine years ago) link

Never underestimate the ability of people to not understand things they don't really want to understand.

Frederik B, Thursday, 16 October 2014 14:58 (nine years ago) link

lol @ analysing and interpreting the wording of something arial pink says in an interview

he said she should stop gyrating like shes 20. call it ageist if you want, but still no one has bothered explained why it's sexist, let alone misogynist.

Raccoon Tanuki, Thursday, 16 October 2014 15:02 (nine years ago) link

+ I would actually find a dismissive "even though she sucks now" as far 'offensive' than what Ariel said, personally.

Raccoon Tanuki, Thursday, 16 October 2014 15:03 (nine years ago) link

because men are not generally subject to the same type of ageism

Treeship, Thursday, 16 October 2014 15:03 (nine years ago) link

RT: You're wrong, re-read the thread. Nobody owes you any further explanation you worthless troll.

Frederik B, Thursday, 16 October 2014 15:08 (nine years ago) link

- some of the arguments itt are being supported w/citations from youtube comments threads

schlump, Thursday, 16 October 2014 15:14 (nine years ago) link

people getting angry over this haha

Raccoon Tanuki, Thursday, 16 October 2014 15:23 (nine years ago) link

Life, Liberty, Property and the ability to gyrate at any age.

Evan, Thursday, 16 October 2014 15:23 (nine years ago) link

people getting angry over this haha

― Raccoon Tanuki, 16. oktober 2014 17:23 (14 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I am not angry. I am stating calmly and clearly, that what you write is factually wrong, and that you are a worthless troll. This isn't anger, this is fact. You have nothing to contribute, and you're wasting everyones time. So, quite frankly, shut up.

Frederik B, Thursday, 16 October 2014 15:40 (nine years ago) link

you're upset, just calm down.

Raccoon Tanuki, Thursday, 16 October 2014 16:22 (nine years ago) link

I love that gal Grimes. But that weird sheer top she wears with the felt on it, I hope she's not wearing that when she's 80. Amirite folks? I mean come on!

kornrulez6969, Thursday, 16 October 2014 16:24 (nine years ago) link

keep calm and FP

clouds, Thursday, 16 October 2014 16:26 (nine years ago) link

It's the Calm Police.

©Oz Quiz© (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 16 October 2014 16:26 (nine years ago) link

they live inside of my head

clouds, Thursday, 16 October 2014 16:28 (nine years ago) link

I'm calm, calm as can be. I'm listening to Stars of the Lid and drinking tea.

Frederik B, Thursday, 16 October 2014 16:32 (nine years ago) link

Just going to update this exchange with hopes of keeping this thread delivering for a few more days.

Ariel Pink:

"They need something edgy. They need songwriting," he said. "She can’t just have her Avicii, her producers or whatever, come up with a new techno jam for her to gyrate to and pretend that she’s 20 years old. They actually need songs. I’m partly responsible for that return-to-values thing."
"I guess it’s called ‘throwback’, but the first record was so good because of the songs," he said. "It's been a downward slide (since). Ray of Light is not cool. And all the other stuff she’s done after that, it’s not like it matters. It really shows a drain of values. People need more substance in their mac-and-cheese. People need more sugar or something."

Grimes:

Ariel pinks delusional misogyny is emblematic of the kind of bullshit everyone woman in this industry faces daily. Also Ray of Light is a masterpiece. Even though she sucks now.

everything, Thursday, 16 October 2014 16:38 (nine years ago) link

a.p otm tho tbh

Raccoon Tanuki, Thursday, 16 October 2014 16:51 (nine years ago) link

no one talking about putting sugar into mac and cheese can ever be OTM

💪😈⚠️ (DJP), Thursday, 16 October 2014 17:03 (nine years ago) link

He's not saying that you should put sugar in your mac-and-cheese.

He's saying people need more substance in their mac-and-cheese. He's also saying people need more sugar or something. Not necessarily in their mac-and-cheese though. Maybe just have a Mountain Dew at the same time.

everything, Thursday, 16 October 2014 17:14 (nine years ago) link

He's saying people need more sugar. He's saying people need more sugar in their aero-plane sachets, he's saying fuck your mac, he's saying macs don't gyrate covered in sugarwashes and spray you in the face like a feminist outside a healthshake store.

I wonder if Grimes likes the eco-feminists in Futurama. I wonder if Grimes is a really uptight person who cant' take jokes and stuff. I wonder if Grimes talks off the cuff knowingly about things like witch house then mixes it up with a Beiber-is-underrated spin off. I wonder if Grimes spends too much time tweeting and shit. I wonder if Ariel is a crack head with greasy fucking hair like an unfamous lo-fi tramp who nobody knows.

Raccoon Tanuki, Thursday, 16 October 2014 17:29 (nine years ago) link

Quit being so got damn selfish
Put it in ya pelvis
Let it work, gyrate, motivate

Raccoon Tanuki, Thursday, 16 October 2014 17:32 (nine years ago) link

I wonder if Grimes likes the eco-feminists in Futurama. I wonder if Grimes is a really uptight person who cant' take jokes and stuff.

flagged this post by the way. encourage others to do so too.

Treeship, Thursday, 16 October 2014 18:48 (nine years ago) link

It sickens me how many of her supporters are so patronizing toward her and treat her like a wounded animal who constantly needs defending and pats on the back. I'm a fan of both but her manic-pixie-dreamgirl stuff projected onto her by fans is so bizarre to me.

Ariel gets pat on the back 7 minutes into this.
http://pitchfork.com/news/56089-ariel-pink-i-got-maced-by-a-feminist/

©Oz Quiz© (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 16 October 2014 19:09 (nine years ago) link

one month passes...

Clear Butcher @Grimezsz
guitar is just a whole new sonic world, melodically, rhythmically etc,. playing 'irl' music is my biggest inspiration lately

Number None, Friday, 12 December 2014 19:35 (nine years ago) link

the pop-punk grimes album markers deserves

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Friday, 12 December 2014 19:47 (nine years ago) link

i remember her liking Blink 182 in her Amoeba Records 'what's in your bag?'

you say tomato/i say imago (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 12 December 2014 19:49 (nine years ago) link

http://instagram.com/p/wgFj4FjfiG/

gree hee hee

valleys of your mind (mh), Friday, 12 December 2014 20:07 (nine years ago) link

two months pass...

new album this year?

when is the new Jim O'Rourke album coming out (spazzmatazz), Monday, 16 February 2015 00:38 (nine years ago) link

I wouldn’t mind.

markers, Monday, 16 February 2015 00:38 (nine years ago) link

i feel like i remember her once saying it would come out sometime in the fall, so we still got quite a ways if that's still true

j. winters (josh), Monday, 16 February 2015 07:27 (nine years ago) link

two weeks pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L-P6Bhzv074

I dunno. (amateurist), Wednesday, 4 March 2015 06:06 (nine years ago) link

fucking awesome new song, album outtake

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N9XKLqGqwLA&sns=tw

flappy bird (spazzmatazz), Monday, 9 March 2015 07:17 (nine years ago) link

SHITTTTTTT

markers, Monday, 9 March 2015 07:20 (nine years ago) link

since this is no longer gonna be on the album, I’m releasing it as a special thank you to everyone in Singapore, KL, Manila, Jakarta, HK, Shanghai, Beijing, Taipei, Seoul, Osaka, Nagoya and Tokyo who came out to the shows! It was an honor to play with a bunch of amazing bands and travel to places I would never otherwise be able to go

This song was never finished. its a demo from ~ the lost album ~, recorded early 2013. i lost the ableton file, so its not mixed or mastered. i tried to doctor the mp3 into a listenable state, but it was poorly recorded in the first place and never meant to be heard by anyone, so its a bit of a mess haha.

flappy bird (spazzmatazz), Monday, 9 March 2015 07:27 (nine years ago) link

oh man, finally some new music

how's life, Monday, 9 March 2015 09:40 (nine years ago) link

<3 this

, Monday, 9 March 2015 12:34 (nine years ago) link

this song is amazing, I can't believe it's an offcut! Or that supposedly it's only in rough demo form.

Either some serious humblebraggery or she's about to drop the album of the millennium

bae sremmurd (monotony), Monday, 9 March 2015 12:40 (nine years ago) link

Oh, she's seriously fucking with us.

how's life, Monday, 9 March 2015 12:42 (nine years ago) link

This is awesome.

Allen (etaeoe), Monday, 9 March 2015 12:54 (nine years ago) link

Wow this is great

example (crüt), Monday, 9 March 2015 13:22 (nine years ago) link

admittedly my memory of the last album is shaky but am i wrong in thinking this is better than the majority of that?

dyl, Monday, 9 March 2015 15:07 (nine years ago) link

cool song!

call all destroyer, Monday, 9 March 2015 15:21 (nine years ago) link

"realiti" makes me so mad at the dweebs who discouraged her from making her big pop album. this is even better than "go."

soyrev, Monday, 9 March 2015 15:39 (nine years ago) link

"go" was real whatever, this is wonderful

"realiti" makes me so mad at the dweebs who discouraged her from making her big pop album.

^ exactly this!

Johnny Fever, Monday, 9 March 2015 15:56 (nine years ago) link

Agree xp

, Monday, 9 March 2015 15:58 (nine years ago) link

this is meant to be anything like a big pop move? k

lex pretend, Monday, 9 March 2015 16:18 (nine years ago) link

In context, sure. Was she going to make Teenage Dream? Probably not.

Johnny Fever, Monday, 9 March 2015 16:24 (nine years ago) link


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