2008 USP(G)ET pt. II: counting the days to 2012 primary thread 1

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The thing of real interest to me is if McCain bungles this so much that even the base can't continue to back him in public without everybody tittering, his entire campaign may flame out by next week. I doubt it, but you never know with him.

o thats fucked up xp

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THISSSSSS

maybe this dude should retitle his mccain is a genius post

When I first heard the news earlier today that there was an agreement in place for bipartisan support of the massive Wall Street bailout, I initially thought that John McCain had overreached in suspending his campaign. After all, he comes back to D.C. and yet the bill is largely hammered out without him. Then comes word from Richard Shelby and House Republicans that they aren't on board with this agreement. Both candidates have met with the President. Here is what Obama briefly said.

I'm going to tell him we're going to have to get something done," Obama said. "And that it has to include something for Main Street, not just Wall Street."

Here is the score. Obama will do a press conference and then his entire contribution to this process will be over. He will go back to prepping for the debate and he will watch the rest from the sidelines. Meanwhile, despite what some have reported, the legislature is nowhere near reaching an agreement. In fact, many Republicans are diametrically opposed to the bailout entirely.

On the other hand, there will be a deal in place by Monday morning. There has to be a deal because there will literally be a financial meltdown if there isn't. These financial services companies deeply leveraged in these Mortgage Backed Securities. Without a deal, there will soon be a meltdown.

What will happen now is down and dirty politicking, horse trading and legislating. John McCain will be in the middle of all of it and Barack Obama will be watching all of it. Because he is the Presidential candidate, he is the de facto leader of the Republican party. That means that he is in a leadership position in all of these negotiations. As lawmakers update the media, his name will be mentioned in most every important meeting that is taking place all around the Capitol.

It's unlikely a deal will be reached tonight, and if it is, it won't be until much later this evening. It may not even be reached tomorrow. It may take until the weekend for a deal to be reached. Meanwhile, as updates come in, McCain's name will be prominently mentioned in each and every meeting.

If Obama insists on going forward with the debate, then McCain should insist on another master stroke. He should send Sarah Palin to debate Obama. She can make it clear that John McCain is involved in serious negotiations trying to hammer out an agreement to save our financial system. If Obama insists on debating, it will have to be with her. In that case, either way Obama loses.

Finally, once an agreement is reached it will be John McCain that will figure prominently in ironing it out. Keep in mind that most every single important piece of legislative business over the last decade has had McCain's fingerprints on it. He will look like the dutiful statesman while Obama looks like the talker. Furthermore, since he will be working nearly non stop for several days it will even put to rest any fears that he is too old to serve. McCain took a big gamble in suspending his campaign. It's not his first big political gamble. He gambled on the surge and won. He gambled on comprehensive immigration reform and lost. McCain is not afraid to put his political career on the line for a bold move, and this time it, in my opinion, will lead him right into the White House.

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The bold stroke pays off for John McCain

By Barb Shelly, Kansas City Star editorial page columnist

Americans love the bold stroke. That's why John McCain's dramatic I'm-suspending-my-campaign announcement was met by a nice bump in his daily Gallup Poll numbers.

It's like watching football. Way more fun to watch the long pass than the grind-it-out-on-the-ground game we're being subjected to these days in Kansas City.

But do we want the leader in the White House trying out the long pass? The ground game is usually safer. That's something voters will have to weigh in November.

barb

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mccain looks like he's had a stroke

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yah that eye is hell of wonky

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so is this the strategy? stonewall the passage of the bailout package to make it look as though mccain had a hand in the negotiations? fucking fucker.

this is absolutely the strategy. whether it works or not I am skeptical.

Obama is not gonna debate Palin what kind of silliness is that

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The Sarah Palin Selection: McCain Folly Or Stroke of Genius?

The presumptive Republican nominee for President, John McCain, made his choice for Vice President on the ticket by naming Sarah Palin, governor of Alaska. Political pundits have rightly noted she has no foreign policy experience and very little executive experience, being just shy of 2 years into her first term as governor.

Palin, a mother of five and a hockey mom, was introduced by McCain to a crowd of about 15,000 supporters. She stepped to the mike and addressed the audience like a seasoned veteran. After introducing her family and accepting McCain's offer of the number 2 spot on the ticket she made a few colorful and timely remarks.

Palin, a beautiful woman, who facially resembles movie actress Rachel Welch in the movie 10,000 B.C., shimmered with youthful vigor and vitality while making her remarks. Based on my first impression of Palin I believe John McCain may have had a stroke of genius when he decided to select her. If Sarah Palin is as smart as she is vivacious I don't believe the American electorate will care about her inexperience.

Some people have expressed concern that she will become a liability for McCain when facing Joe Biden in the Vice Presidential debates. As almost every married man in America can attest it is unlikely Joe Biden or any man can out-argue a woman. If, during the debate, Biden hits her over the head with facts, she doesn't grasp, it will appear to female voters he is trying to bully her. If Biden mocks her lack of experience he runs the risk of appearing like John McCain deriding Obama for lack of foreign policy experience. It didn't work for Hillary Clinton against Obama and it won't work for Biden against Palin. If she is careful it is unlikely Joe Biden, or any man, can defeat her in a one on one debate.

Sarah Palin has a colorful, salt of the earth, speaking style which is disarming. I believe the American people could fall in love with her as a person.

As almost every married man in America can attest it is unlikely Joe Biden or any man can out-argue a woman.

ok comparing sarah palin to raquel welch is a bridge too far, my friends. a bridge way too fucking far.

down boy

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also what the Democrats should do is obvious - point out that THEY HAD A PLAN and that the Republicans were too incompetent to get their shit in order and cooperate in a timely fashion; Dubya couldn't get members of his own party to sign off on his own deal

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So we're all suckers for a bimbo, eh? Great. Long live the Republic.

Based on my first impression of Palin I believe John McCain may have had a stroke of genius when he decided to select her.

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colorful, salt of the earth, speaking style

it's this style where you speak

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ok comparing sarah palin to raquel welch is a bridge too far, my friends. a bridge way too fucking far.

― the schef (adam schefter ha ha)

... to nowhere?

COURIC: Have you ever been involved with any negotiations, for example, with the Russians?

PALIN: We have trade missions back and forth. We-- we do-- it's very important when you consider even national security issues with Russia as Putin rears his head and comes into the air space of the United States of America, where-- where do they go? It's Alaska. It's just right over the border. It is-- from Alaska that we send those out to make sure that an eye is being kept on this very powerful nation, Russia, because they are right there. They are right next to-- to our state.

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seriously if the Republicans don't get on board with a plan how easy will it be to both blame them for the crisis in the first place, as well as hang them for being totally incompetent to deal with its aftermath?

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maybe they just caught him mid-wink

like he saw one of his grandkids in the audience or something

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T/S Lop Sided Strokey McCain vs Slightly Startled McCain vs Don Corleone McCain

the one where both halves are the stroke half has me in hysterics right now

serious lols at lucille

John McCain == 1/2 Johnny Carson + 1/2 John Madden

T / F

are we going to get called out as a sleazy obama personal attacks and smear site now

i sure hope so

the both stroke eye mccain looks like bebop and rocksteady

I keep imagining the mccain gifs cycling to the beat of the Jeopardy theme song

also what the Democrats should do is obvious - point out that THEY HAD A PLAN and that the Republicans were too incompetent to get their shit in order and cooperate in a timely fashion; Dubya couldn't get members of his own party to sign off on his own deal

From what I've read and watched, it's House Republicans, spines stiffened since one o'clock this afternoon, who've suddenly rebelled. Senate Dems, Republicans, and the President were all behind it. If there's enough bipartisan outrage, and no deal happens before Monday, McCain will pay for it.

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yeah that's what I gleaned too, although it was the Republican Senator on the Banking Committee who was quoted as saying "there is no deal" (blanking on who that is right now)

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Elisabeth Hasselbeck finally called out some of "The View"co-hosts on the Sarah Palin bashing she finally proclaimed September 25 as "Hate Sarah Palin Day." Immediately the other co-hosts defensively swarmed over the comment denying there is any hate for Governor Palin. Joy Behar claimed "it’s not personal. It’s my country that I’m worried about."

Hasselbeck’s remark was sparked by a discussion over a new YouTube video displaying a Kenyan preacher praying to protect a woman, who resembles Gov. Palin, from witchcraft. Sherri Shepherd and Elisabeth Hasselbeck explained to the other two theologically challenged co-hosts that this is simply a prayer to protect this woman, possibly Sarah Palin, from evil.

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"theologically challenged"

"what, we're just sacrificing a goat - don't you get it, you simpleton?"

I have some q's about two-face's wang (not mccain's)