Why is casual racism/sexism more accepted in video games than other forms of media (these days)?

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Can anyone explain the The Fine Young Capitalists/Zoe Quinn aspect of the imbroglio? Most of GG has been rehashed many times, but any time I come across any references to TFYC, it seems like it was beamed in from a completely different dimension.

Like this morning, Quinn tweeted:

Beäşt of Disçörd ‏@TheQuinnspiracy

Also if anyone wants a storify of the truth about TFYC FINALLY coming out, here's a storify of that! https://storify.com/TheQuinnspiracy/tfyc-truth-finally-comes-out

And I'm like "oh good, I've been waiting for someone to make sense of this for me", but nope. I still got no clue.

how's life, Wednesday, 15 October 2014 17:28 (nine years ago) link

I guess the USU story has propelled this thing up another level. It's on the main page of the New York Times now. http://www.nytimes.com/2014/10/16/technology/gamergate-women-video-game-threats-anita-sarkeesian.html

jmm, Wednesday, 15 October 2014 18:19 (nine years ago) link

ya, causing the cancellation of a public event by threatening the largest school shooting in US history will do that

anonanon, Wednesday, 15 October 2014 18:24 (nine years ago) link

This is all so tragically pathetic. Half these idiots are probably counting this as a win.

💪😈⚠️ (DJP), Wednesday, 15 October 2014 18:42 (nine years ago) link

i have seen a lot of gamers say

1) omg big deal, trolls will be trolls, lighten up already

2) feminist false flag operation

the late great, Wednesday, 15 October 2014 18:44 (nine years ago) link

ya, causing the cancellation of a public event by threatening the largest school shooting in US history will do that

I'm seeing it in a few new places with the gun control angle being the thing emphasized. It's also embarrassing to the police, so kind of a perfect story.

jmm, Wednesday, 15 October 2014 20:04 (nine years ago) link

#SWATed

am0n, Wednesday, 15 October 2014 20:05 (nine years ago) link

still riding the tiger

https://twitter.com/CHSommers/status/522490480157024256

i tried watching some of the video out of fairness and found the people interviewed to be unwatchably incoherent and stupid and the host a dimwit

goole, Wednesday, 15 October 2014 21:14 (nine years ago) link

https://twitter.com/CCG2004/status/522490574574997506

lol

💪😈⚠️ (DJP), Wednesday, 15 October 2014 21:17 (nine years ago) link

they call her mom. it is so warped.

goole, Wednesday, 15 October 2014 21:20 (nine years ago) link

what is the fn deal w calling her mom

lag∞n, Wednesday, 15 October 2014 21:20 (nine years ago) link

i have seen a lot of gamers say

1) omg big deal, trolls will be trolls, lighten up already

2) feminist false flag operation

― the late great, Wednesday, October 15, 2014 2:44 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

fasle troll op

lag∞n, Wednesday, 15 October 2014 21:21 (nine years ago) link

"based mom" #actually

come to think of it i wonder if lil b has or will weigh in on this

goole, Wednesday, 15 October 2014 21:22 (nine years ago) link

what is the fn deal w calling her mom

https://twitter.com/CCG2004/status/522494966980149248

I really can't stop laughing at this shit

💪😈⚠️ (DJP), Wednesday, 15 October 2014 21:23 (nine years ago) link

I keep imagining Christina Somers taking chicken soup to sick GamerGaters, wiping their fevered brows, helping them with their math homework, tucking them in at night with a kiss on the forehead and a whispered "sleep well, my special little prince" in their ears

I fully recognize the regressive nature of many of these images and feel a little bad about it but OTOH lol

💪😈⚠️ (DJP), Wednesday, 15 October 2014 21:26 (nine years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YCExXie1XB4

the whole tone of nerds pretend jokey hauteur drives me insane they shd be executed

lag∞n, Wednesday, 15 October 2014 21:29 (nine years ago) link

yeah man the whole overenunciated manic vlogger steez is just mad bizarre to me, like i don't get how anyone can consider e.g. anthony fantano or who/e to have a natural or normal or... salubrious self-presentation

goole, Wednesday, 15 October 2014 21:33 (nine years ago) link

every nerd writes that way too like they arching their eyebrows at u cause their condescending routine is so cute and smart or something

lag∞n, Wednesday, 15 October 2014 21:37 (nine years ago) link

on some level its an obvs cover for social anxiety but damn man i dont wanna

lag∞n, Wednesday, 15 October 2014 21:39 (nine years ago) link

greeeetings ladies and gentlemen im the investigamer *smirk*

lag∞n, Wednesday, 15 October 2014 21:40 (nine years ago) link

I am not sure which is scarier, the idea that none of these people have social confidence or they do and this is how they convey it

⌘-B (mh), Wednesday, 15 October 2014 21:48 (nine years ago) link

he repeatedly says impartialty when he says impartiality through that whole video

lag∞n, Wednesday, 15 October 2014 21:57 (nine years ago) link

when he means lol

lag∞n, Wednesday, 15 October 2014 21:57 (nine years ago) link

the whole tone of nerds pretend jokey hauteur drives me insane they shd be executed

― lag∞n, Wednesday, October 15, 2014 5:29 PM (24 minutes ago)

irl fps

am0n, Wednesday, 15 October 2014 22:01 (nine years ago) link

he also pronounces brandeis "bran-day"

difficult listening hour, Wednesday, 15 October 2014 22:24 (nine years ago) link

the whole tone of nerds pretend jokey hauteur drives me insane they shd be executed

― lag∞n, Wednesday, October 15, 2014 2:29 PM (49 minutes ago) Bookmark

my best friend from high school grew up to become one of these people and has his xbox user name tattooed on his arm and i run into him at like weddings once every few years and he is completely intolerable to be around. his whole personality is such a lame imitation of what a human being is like and yet that's like somehow the cool way to be amongst these guys?

Clay, Wednesday, 15 October 2014 22:25 (nine years ago) link

(while listing mom's credentials as a scholar for "the completely non-partisan american enterprise institute" xp)

difficult listening hour, Wednesday, 15 October 2014 22:25 (nine years ago) link

it's like can-day

http://media.ticketmaster.com/tm/en-us/dbimages/97660a.jpg

xp

goole, Wednesday, 15 October 2014 22:26 (nine years ago) link

he also pronounces brandeis "bran-day"

― difficult listening hour, Wednesday, October 15, 2014 6:24 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

ha that is perfect

lag∞n, Wednesday, 15 October 2014 22:27 (nine years ago) link

LMFAO

💪😈⚠️ (DJP), Wednesday, 15 October 2014 22:28 (nine years ago) link

(while listing mom's credentials as a scholar for "the completely non-partisan american enterprise institute" xp)

― difficult listening hour, Wednesday, October 15, 2014 6:25 PM (8 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

haha yes i love how hes all "i did some digging" like hes an investigative journalist for googling the extremely obscure american enterprise institute

lag∞n, Wednesday, 15 October 2014 22:36 (nine years ago) link

investigameive iirc

difficult listening hour, Wednesday, 15 October 2014 22:37 (nine years ago) link

btw the very first line of their wikipedia

http://i.imgur.com/LQlKqcq.png

lag∞n, Wednesday, 15 October 2014 22:37 (nine years ago) link

Lazarus long, jfc gtfo

a drug by the name of WORLD WITHOUT END (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 15 October 2014 22:38 (nine years ago) link

Among the prominent former government officials now affiliated with AEI are former U.S. ambassador to the U.N. John Bolton, now an AEI senior fellow; former chairman of the National Endowment for the Humanities Lynne Cheney, a longtime AEI senior fellow; former House Speaker Newt Gingrich, now an AEI senior fellow; former member of the Dutch parliament Ayaan Hirsi Ali, an AEI visiting fellow; and former deputy secretary of defense Paul Wolfowitz, now an AEI visiting scholar. Other prominent individuals affiliated with AEI include Kevin Hassett, Frederick W. Kagan, Leon Kass, Charles Murray, Michael Novak, Norman J. Ornstein, Richard Perle, Radosław Sikorski, Christina Hoff Sommers, Peter J. Wallison, and Mark J. Perry.[9]

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 15 October 2014 22:45 (nine years ago) link

for all their hyper connected techlologism these people seem to not know anything about the world outside of video games

lag∞n, Wednesday, 15 October 2014 22:51 (nine years ago) link

look at Lana Del Rey

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 15 October 2014 22:54 (nine years ago) link

lana was right

lag∞n, Wednesday, 15 October 2014 23:00 (nine years ago) link

i watched one of anita sarkeesian's videos a few weeks ago and . . . it's awfully restrained?

'here are 100 well-documented examples of really fucked up portrayals of women in video games and women shouldn't be treated that way, in fiction or real life.'

it's not like she called gamers assholes or misogynists or acne-ridden child-men who lack empathy or social skills of any sort. what kind of threat is she? ppl complain about sexism in movies, but there's no shortage of comic book films because studios, game or film, follow the demand.

tbh this is the first time i've found myself thinking wtf is wrong with the kids today, so thanks for making me feel old, gamergate

also it's pretty fucked up that the correct ppl are petitioning a global corporation to resume advertising somewhere

mookieproof, Thursday, 16 October 2014 00:57 (nine years ago) link

these people are paper-thin enough they just fucking can't tolerate someone having a different opinion. not even that -- sarkeesian & co like video games, they just wish they were mildly different!

⌘-B (mh), Thursday, 16 October 2014 01:16 (nine years ago) link

it's gross to see actual young persons involved on the conservative side of a culture war

Nhex, Thursday, 16 October 2014 01:18 (nine years ago) link

zoe quinn actually makes video games, but not real video games, and they get good reviews, and 'gamers' are worried that this could lead to video games changing and we can't have that.

Clay, Thursday, 16 October 2014 01:19 (nine years ago) link

i knew there was something wrong with people younger than me

you walk on the street, grab the rock (President Keyes), Thursday, 16 October 2014 01:23 (nine years ago) link

In a phone interview, Mr. Baldwin, who said he was not an avid gamer himself but has done voice work for the popular Halo games and others, said he did not condone the harassment of Mr. Sarkeesian and others.

good job NYT copy editors

you walk on the street, grab the rock (President Keyes), Thursday, 16 October 2014 01:36 (nine years ago) link

he doesn't condone the harassment of any of her male relatives

linda cardellini (zachlyon), Thursday, 16 October 2014 01:38 (nine years ago) link

sarkeesian's stuff isn't just restrained, it's generally obvious to the point of boring and that's part of why the vitriol against her confuses the living hell out of me. She's not andrea dworkin for crissakes; she's arguing some basic tenets of humanity along the lines of "all these naked women are being used as scenery and that's degrading" and this gets people upset?

the other song about butts in the top 5 (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 16 October 2014 01:44 (nine years ago) link

evil rightwing politics have dragged us all down

Nhex, Thursday, 16 October 2014 01:47 (nine years ago) link

for sure, people will say "I didn't agree with her take on X" but it's usually some nuance, not general disagreement. Maybe if it wasn't like shooting fish in a barrel, there would be less vitriol

⌘-B (mh), Thursday, 16 October 2014 01:48 (nine years ago) link

there's a common common that she cherry-picks her examples of sexism, like it was actually difficult for her to find the dozens of samples she used
seriously?

Nhex, Thursday, 16 October 2014 01:57 (nine years ago) link


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