rolling US charts 2008/talk about "pop" here

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WE THE BEST

This is like the fourth straight #1 that I haven't heard prior to it becoming #1. Out of the loop, I guess.

It's partly iTunes and everything making hits rise much faster than they used to, and "Low" in particular kinda came outta nowhere. The last few before that (Alicia, Chris Brown, Soulja Boy) all had a good month or so of mainstream saturation before hitting #1, though.

WHO IS ASIA CRUISE?

( http://www.myspace.com/asiahitz .. those ads have been popping up everywhere for the last few months)

Thought that "Spring Street" on the recent Vanessa Carlton album was the best thing she ever did. Trying to do the mother-daughter continuity thing (a now-I-understand-you-mom song); her lyrics find a way to the obvious, but she's got this beautiful not-quite-a-kid anymore hum in her voice.

Yeah, it baffles me that you put "U.S. charts" in what you intended to be a general pop thread. What's the chance of Stephanie McIntosh or Ewa Farna or Kim-Lian ever charting in the U.S., or Dahv or Katy Rose ever charting anywhere, or Marit Larsen or Ashlee Simpson ever charting again? But then, since I chose not to start a thread, I shouldn't get into this. But also, nothing stopped you from waiting for the discussion to go further rather than unilaterally starting a thread.

But anyway, whether this thread gets interesting depends on whether people inspire themselves to actually say something about the music. But if someone starts a rolling everywhere everything bubblegum and popped thread, I'd take a look.

again, i made this the US charts thread because a. we had good discussion about pop on the us charts thread last year and b. it makes it obvious to people where they can talk about shit like "low" and "paralyzer" and "tattoo" etc. etc.

that said, i could care less what people talk about on here. pop music released in the us? cool? marit larsen? cooler. ppl letting thread titles derail whatever pop they want to talk about are on here are either taking this too seriously or idiotically stubborn.

if you want to talk about dahv or katy rose or whatever, and other ppl also want to talk about them, i see no reason why it can't be discussed here. if people bitch, it's gonna be reactionary anti-teen pop ppl, not anyoen trying to protect the integrity of the "charts" thread.

I think I just realized that the end of the Stylus Singles Jukebox is partially to blame for me not having heard these songs.

xp I consider this thread the 2008 version of the Rolling U.S. Charts thread. The only thing that's changed is that Jordan is letting us know we can talk about pop more broadly in it, too. Which we were kind of doing already last year, anyway.

i'm not exactly sure why ppl feel like their discussions are going to be curtailed here. if anything, combining teenpop crew w/ ppl who listen to broader pop but not teenpop will be a good thing.

Rolling Debutante Bubblegum Teenpop Thread 2008

aaaaaaaanway, i think it's because i'm living in a pretty hispanic-dominated market right now, but i keep hearing this great "calabria 2007" track on the radio (as much as say, "kiss kiss" even) a really great cheap sounding dancehall/reggae thing even though i think it comes from sweden. the beat is just this simple plastic horn loop but it's fire. i think lil jon samples it on new pitbull single.

also really liking the new trey songz. it might have j holiday potential.

new mary j. also growing on me. it sounded really thin to me the first few times i've heard it, but the verses are really great. still wish the hook had a little more too it but whatever. i like really overblown mary like "be without you" better than this but i don't mind hearing this in the car at all.

watched jordin sparks do "tattoo" for one of the networks' new years eve thing, and she was really fucking bland. i didn't watch her season of AI, but i can see why she's has yet to reach superstardom. she seemed really bored and it was just blah. still like the song though.

i can't believe anyone seriously listens to that crap. you've got to have, like, no mind

lol

yeah I liked Jordin on AI, but that was probably due to really thin competition that season. still, i don't get the sense that "Tattoo" or "This Is My Now" or anything else she's recorded really gives her a chance to perform the way she did on the show anyway.

"Just Fine" is my favorite Mary J. single in ages. don't know what I think about "Work That," though. (xpost)

I don't like any of the previous "Calabria" versions I've heard, but this one's alright. I haven't bothered to hear any of the new Pitbull, which is kind of weird of me because I've loved all his stuff in the past.

It's Danish, btw.

ah ok. i can't stress enough how much it's being played on the radio here in miami. also the new trina single which is pretty bug. the chorus sounds like kind of icy techno and verses talk about intimate details of dating wfb. it's really weird. trina sings the hook though and it's not half bad. not that a good look for her though.

haha, I always read "wfb" as "wtf"

3rd soulja boy single that's genuinely funny

I'm still confused about Trina dating William F. Buckley.

"aaaaaaaanway, i think it's because i'm living in a pretty hispanic-dominated market right now, but i keep hearing this great "calabria 2007" track on the radio (as much as say, "kiss kiss" even) a really great cheap sounding dancehall/reggae thing even though i think it comes from sweden. the beat is just this simple plastic horn loop but it's fire. i think lil jon samples it on new pitbull single."

I love the new version of "Calabria" with those hypnotic female dancehall vocals. In Australia this is basically received as house music (which, technically, the track actually is) - there was a rather tiresome bootleg with the vocal from Crystal Waters' house track "Destination Unknown" that remains inescapable on commercial radio.

It reminds me a bit of the dancehall/house fusion that Bob Sinclar's been trying to getoff the ground recently. But I like the idea of it being picked up and misappropriated in the US.

Yeah, but it has the reggaeton "dembow" rhythm, so I imagine it's being recieved as reggaeton here. This coincides with the trend in reggaeton toward faster bpms and a more four-to-the-floor feel.

jordan you should hear some of the other mary j songs on that album that are even better than Just Fine.

the thin thing --> not too much synth on a lot of tracks, but the beats/bass is not thin at ALL. really packs a huge punch.

For comparison:

Nejo & Dalmata, "Algo Musical" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cjiPsRQ9-lk
Wisin y Yandel, "Sexy Movimiento" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W9oFveyv94E
Tego Calderon, "Quitarte To" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t8I4A7VSyhY

xp

"Yeah, but it has the reggaeton "dembow" rhythm, so I imagine it's being recieved as reggaeton here. This coincides with the trend in reggaeton toward faster bpms and a more four-to-the-floor feel."

yeah sorry I meant to make it clear that I can totally see how this would happen - it's partly because of the lack of a proper reggaeton scene that this probably won't happen in australia.

but i keep hearing this great "calabria 2007" track on the radio

My girlfriend heard that on the radio the other day and then made me listen to it on iTunes. It's pretty cool!

So, it's the second Billboard Hot 100 of 2007. What's happening:

"Low" spends a second week at #1, the rest of the top 4 is unchanged. "Soulja Boy" does rebound to #5, a rebound I'm assuming is gonna be short lived. "Apologize" apparently can't get over the hump and must be happy with a #2 peak. Other than Soulja's leap, not too much going on in the top 10, though Sara Bareilles is not just a one week wonder here. Does she have the staying power of Colbie Caillat or of Feist?

Sean Kingston's "Take You There", Good Charlotte's "I Don't Wanna Be In Love" and Taylor Swift's "Our Song" and "Teardrops on My Guitar" are steady climbers, the latter two being the biggest country crossover hits since "Before He Cheats". "Big Girls Don't Cry" is airplay gainer wtf. "Piece of Me" already falling. "Into the Night" and "Don't Stop the Music" are slowly crawling up. And "See You Again" jumps into the top 50, yay.

"Low" is growing on me more and more. Not the best f/ T-Pain hit but possibly the best rapping on any f/ T-Pain hit.

I'm feeling less and less charitable towards the Bedingfield/Kingston song since it's now official that "Babies" won't be on her U.S. album and whatever chance of it ever being a single here is nil.

From Fred Bronson, the #1's of 2007:

7 weeks: "Umbrella," Rihanna featuring Jay-Z
7 weeks: "Crank That (Soulja Boy)," Soulja Boy Tell'em
5 weeks: "No One," Alicia Keys
4 weeks: "Beautiful Girls," Sean Kingston
3 weeks: "Makes Me Wonder," Maroon 5
3 weeks: "Kiss Kiss," Chris Brown featuring T-Pain
2 weeks: "This Is Why I'm Hot," Mims
2 weeks: "Glamorous," Fergie featuring Ludacris
2 weeks: "Don't Matter," Akon
2 weeks: "Give It to Me," Timbaland featuring Nelly Furtado and Justin Timberlake
2 weeks: "Hey There Delilah," Plain White T's
1 week: "Say It Right," Nelly Furtado
1 week: "What Goes AroundýýComes Around," Justin Timberlake
1 week: "Girlfriend," Avril Lavigne
1 week: "Buy U a Drank (Shawty Snappin')," T-Pain featuring Yung Joc
1 week: "Big Girls Don't Cry," Fergie
1 week: "Stronger," Kanye West

some things:

-heard 'paralyzer' for the first time today. thought the music was pretty good but the vocals are way too aggro for me with like this big burly dude growling "I WANT TO MAKE YOU MOVE". no thx

- i dunno if they play birdman/wayne's 'poppin bottles' anywhere else (i've heard it like 12 times in the 3-week-long span that i've been home and not coincidentally all 12 times have been on the station where dj khaled works and 10 of the times have been on his show [this is the station that named "i'm so hood" the #1 'hottest' track of 07 mind you]) and they totally bleep out when wayne says "po it on the models/shut up bitch swallow/if you can't swallow/shut up bitch, googles" so it's like 2 seconds of silence and it's really disorienting every time and i can't ever remember a song that had that long of a censor

Down here in central NC they play "Poppin' Bottles" plenty frequently, and this makes me very happy.

Yeah "Pop Bottles" has been on the radio here constantly for weeks, if not months. And they don't even censor that swallow/gargle (lol googles) line except for the b-word. It's great to hear Jadakiss on the radio again, even if only as a 2-bar sample, especially since they leave the bottle popping sound effect from his track in there.

I think the longest stretch of dead air from censored lines on a recent hit was "Make It Rain," couple lines in a row that's nothing to references to bricks and weed and lean that made for a real garbled radio edit.

lol googles

interesting i thought no one outside of dj khaled had the patience for birdman anymore

well i mean obviously the song functions as part of the wfb hit parade more than a birdman song (there are SEVEN songs w/ wayne on his new album), but i actually do like his verses on "pop bottles" too.

i actually really like wayne's verse the more i hear it. kinda falls in between his serious rapping voice and his dumb-ass hyena howl.

birdman starting out the second verse by basically talking is hilarious.

birdman starting out the second every verse by basically talking is hilarious.

Chart news Miley Cyrus's "I'll See You Sometime If My Record Company Ever Notices That My Single Is A Hit And Decides To Play It On Their Own Radio Station" looks like it's stalling in the upper 40s. Snoop Dogg's "I Have Decided To Become A Novelty Act" jumps from 39 to 21; everything else is in stasis. (Remember two years ago when the Hot 100 was jumping every which way?) Enur f. Natasja "Calabria 2007" at 60 but not yet taking off the way it seemed it might. (Billboard is now calling it "Calabria 2008.") Would like to know more about Natasja, who was killed in a car crash last June. Was she Denmark's first dancehall star?

Hey, career artists are allowed to have a novelty hit now and then.

Also, a pretty funny review of the Birdman alb from Kelefa several weeks ago:

Birdman, a microphone, and no help in sight

Enur f. Natasja "Calabria 2007" at 60 but not yet taking off the way it seemed it might. (Billboard is now calling it "Calabria 2008.")

still loving the shit out of this

really liking new missy!!!

aka FUCK THE HATERS

like this pwns 90% of the new top 20 by like a mile and a half

Enur f. Natasja "Calabria 2007" at 60 but not yet taking off the way it seemed it might. (Billboard is now calling it "Calabria 2008.")

video to this = i would have sex with all this white girls

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DAAMN "Ching-A-Ling" is pretty redonkulous.