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DeRo disses Matos for doing (very well IMHO) what he himself does in like every review ever (poorly IEHO): http://www.suntimes.com/output/derogatis/sho-sunday-dero04.html
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― Haikunym (Haikunym), Friday, 9 June 2006 17:57 (seventeen years ago) link

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― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 9 June 2006 18:06 (seventeen years ago) link

Jim Milonakis?

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Friday, 9 June 2006 18:48 (seventeen years ago) link

I found that one entertaining and was actually less satisfied with Michaelangelo Matos' self-indulgent look at Prince's "Sign o' the Times," which spent entirely too much time dwelling on how the author discovered the disc as a teenager in the Minneapolis suburbs.

So then I guess he didn't read the 100-odd pages in which Matos discussed Prince.

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Friday, 9 June 2006 20:48 (seventeen years ago) link

Shh, you're giving it away!

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 9 June 2006 20:53 (seventeen years ago) link

"...he not only gives us the perfect adjective for Sly's dense epic ("swampy," indeed) but the nugget that this was a pioneering use of the beat box. (Who knew? I didn't.)"

DeRo is a FUCKING MORON.

― Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 9 June 2006 20:55 (seventeen years ago) link

I just finished the one on PAUL'S BOUTIQUE. It's only the third I've read thus far, but it's the one I've enjoyed the most.

― Terrible Cold (Terrible Cold), Friday, 9 June 2006 20:55 (seventeen years ago) link

The one supposedly on the Replacements was AWFUL!

― Jeff LeVine (Jeff LeVine), Friday, 9 June 2006 21:09 (seventeen years ago) link

I just finished the one on PAUL'S BOUTIQUE. It's only the third I've read thus far, but it's the one I've enjoyed the most.

Yeah, it's all info, no prose. A lot of the 33 1/3 books seem to forget how much people like that.

― Whiney G. Weingarten (whineyg), Friday, 9 June 2006 22:05 (seventeen years ago) link

personally speaking, i'd read a book that wasn't taking on yet another album from the canon. c'mon, guys! dig deeper!

― gear (gear), Friday, 9 June 2006 22:32 (seventeen years ago) link

Christ, that quotation. Shakey OTM.

― David Bachyrycz (David Bachyrycz), Friday, 9 June 2006 22:37 (seventeen years ago) link

c'mon, guys! dig deeper!

Someone should do Tom T. Hall's greatest hits.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 9 June 2006 22:56 (seventeen years ago) link

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― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Friday, 9 June 2006 22:58 (seventeen years ago) link

(That was a "dig deeper" joke in case it wasn't clear. LOL @ self.)

― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Friday, 9 June 2006 22:59 (seventeen years ago) link

I just fell asleep.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 9 June 2006 23:00 (seventeen years ago) link

i've got an idea, fellas, let's create a book series in which we reinforce the canon some more.

seriously though, i realize the books have to sell, hence the more mainstream angle. i'm sure there are a ton of albums the writers would love to write about that aren't commercially viable for the publisher.

― gear (gear), Friday, 9 June 2006 23:11 (seventeen years ago) link

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― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 9 June 2006 23:26 (seventeen years ago) link

ned you should pitch that one!

actually do you think they would let somebody self-33 1/3? if it was some famous musician?

― s1ocki (slutsky), Friday, 9 June 2006 23:33 (seventeen years ago) link

"Morrissey on...Morrissey."

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 9 June 2006 23:38 (seventeen years ago) link

Morrissey did write a book actually! (didnt he?)

― ¨ˆ¨ˆ¨ˆ¨ˆ¨ˆ¨ˆ (chaki), Friday, 9 June 2006 23:41 (seventeen years ago) link

yeah, i think it was about the new york dolls or something

― J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Friday, 9 June 2006 23:55 (seventeen years ago) link

He founded the series in spirit!

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 9 June 2006 23:56 (seventeen years ago) link

i thought it was on James Dean, re: Moz's book

― that's so taylrr (ken taylrr), Saturday, 10 June 2006 02:04 (seventeen years ago) link

"Morrissey on...Morrissey."

Morrissey is not attracted to Morrissey.

― jinx hijinks (sanskrit), Saturday, 10 June 2006 02:15 (seventeen years ago) link

i'm sure there are a ton of albums the writers would love to write about that aren't commercially viable for the publisher.

Carl Wilson is writing one about Celine Dion's "Let's Talk About Love".

― NoTimeBeforeTime (Barry Bruner), Saturday, 10 June 2006 02:59 (seventeen years ago) link

You are all OTM regarding the Franklin Bruno Armed Forces book, but has anyone read Daphne A. Brooks' take on Grace? I found it largely disappointing for a number of reasons. For someone who's obviously deeply in love with the material and who has deeper access to the Buckley archives than most, she made some really frustrating, bizarre factual errors. Maybe I'm being overly-pedantic, but simple mistakes like misquoting lyrics kept me from enjoying and engaging in the book as much as I could have-- like I couldn't trust her after a certain point. Clearly, I'm an asshole, but did anyone else have problems with this?

― Jeff Reguil0n (Talent Explosion), Saturday, 10 June 2006 03:14 (seventeen years ago) link

The Aeroplane book was excellent. The Pet Sounds book was not.

― Steve Schneeberg (Steve Goldberg), Saturday, 10 June 2006 11:52 (seventeen years ago) link

Somebody pitched to do Killed by Death Vol. 2 for the last round of books. I would have loved to have read that!

― Raw Patrick (Raw Patrick), Saturday, 10 June 2006 15:25 (seventeen years ago) link

And that Kick Out the Jams book that DeRo praises was the worst I've read in the series--no original info or thinking whatsoever, and blandly told.

― Raw Patrick (Raw Patrick), Saturday, 10 June 2006 15:30 (seventeen years ago) link

I wanna see a 33 1/3 tome on the Melvins' "Stag."

― Terrible Cold (Terrible Cold), Monday, 12 June 2006 15:45 (seventeen years ago) link

I enjoyed the books for The Piper at the Gates of Dawn and There's a Riot Goin On out of this series a lot.

― Tripmaker (SDWitzm), Monday, 12 June 2006 15:52 (seventeen years ago) link

actually do you think they would let somebody self-33 1/3? if it was some famous musician?

This is more or less happening with LD Beghtol writing about 69 Love Songs. No idea how it's coming along; I haven't talked to him since the EMP Pop Conference.

― Joseph McCombs (Joseph McCombs), Monday, 12 June 2006 15:59 (seventeen years ago) link

mr sherburne on something miniMAL would be good.

― dh (djh), Monday, 12 June 2006 17:26 (seventeen years ago) link

I just finished reading a new batch.

The Stone Roses one was okay, not much in the way of new info and insights really (though I did learn that what I previously thought was just a guitar string squeak in "Elizabeth My Dear" was really supposed to be a silenced gunshot.)

The Riot one was excellent. I especially liked his first chapters talking from the point of view of someone who was there.

I had high hopes for the Endtroducing one since it's one of the few (only?) hip-hop books but it was really just one long interview with Shadow. Very boring, gross hyperbole at the beginning (the author says something along the lines of Endtroducing not sounding like anything before or since type crap) and Davis himself is not the most interesting of interviewees.

The VU and Nico had some informative info but Joe Harvard's writing style and attitude just rubbed me the wrong way.

― Viz (Viz), Monday, 12 June 2006 17:28 (seventeen years ago) link

Anyone read the " Zeppelin IV" one? I've only read the one on Bowie's "Low" and liked it.

― Jay Vee's Return (Manon_69), Monday, 12 June 2006 17:35 (seventeen years ago) link

Zeppelin one is kind of over-the-top and fascinating, I recommend it

― Haikunym (Haikunym), Monday, 12 June 2006 17:54 (seventeen years ago) link

I actually really liked the Shadow one.

― Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Monday, 12 June 2006 18:29 (seventeen years ago) link

"I actually really liked the Shadow one."

For this series, I've really enjoyed both the personal takes and insights gained from repeated close listenings that the authors bring to their books and the Endtroducing one was more like "here's an oral history of DJ Shadow" and it didn't focus enough on Endtroducing.

I think the format that was used for the Paul's Boutique book would have served Endtroducing a lot more, ie. context, process, funny stories behind the samples...

― Viz (Viz), Monday, 12 June 2006 19:56 (seventeen years ago) link

one month passes...

I've read the In The Aeroplane one (PHENOMENAL) and the OK Computer one (just "meh"). I've been meaning to buy Doolittle and The Stone Roses and can't fucking wait for Loveless to come out. Now we just need Spiderland, Ege Bamyasi, Dummy, Suicide/First Album, ...I Care Because You Do, Neu! 1/2/'75 (you never really can choose one, can you?), Playing with Fire, Ladies and Gentlemen We Are Floating In Space, etc etc etc.

― less-than three's Christiane F. (drowned in milk), Saturday, 15 July 2006 06:52 (seventeen years ago) link

Dleone should write all the kosmische/prog 33 1/3s

― Roque Strew (RoqueStrew), Saturday, 15 July 2006 20:55 (seventeen years ago) link

haha you know i was wondering why they turned my heathen earth pitch down forever and i just noticed that drew snagged 20 jazz funk. bastard.

― david allen grier (dubplatestyle), Saturday, 15 July 2006 21:37 (seventeen years ago) link

What about EXILE ON MAIN STREET?

― reynard the fox (Pearl Hooch), Saturday, 15 July 2006 21:40 (seventeen years ago) link

I have Piper at the Gates of Dawn, which is really good, and OK Computer, which is less good

I'd like to read more though. I'd most like to read ones that either give a lot of details about the making of the record or do close critical analysis rather than ones that are more off-the-wall in their theorizing. Which ones would suit me?

― Matt Olken (Moodles), Saturday, 15 July 2006 22:11 (seventeen years ago) link

Now we just need.. Ege Bamyasi...

I pitched it and got rejected.

― Dave Segal (Da ve Segal), Saturday, 15 July 2006 22:44 (seventeen years ago) link

What?!? Pitched to and rejected by whom, may I ask? They'll fucking do ABBA but not Can? What if we all sent in emails to Continuum requesting an Ege Baymasi release?

― less-than three's Christiane F. (drowned in milk), Sunday, 16 July 2006 01:46 (seventeen years ago) link

The editor of 33 1/3 is David Barker.

― Dave Segal (Da ve Segal), Sunday, 16 July 2006 01:49 (seventeen years ago) link

Wait... Dleone, as in Dominique Leone? Is he actually on here or something?

― less-than three's Christiane F. (drowned in milk), Sunday, 16 July 2006 02:06 (seventeen years ago) link

Once you summon him
he will soon appear IN FIRE
HOLDING A GOATS HEAD

― Haikunym (Haikunym), Sunday, 16 July 2006 02:09 (seventeen years ago) link

the doolittle one got reviewed in the nytbr.

― gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Sunday, 16 July 2006 03:28 (seventeen years ago) link

They'll fucking do ABBA but not Can?

I don't see why this is so hard to believe.

And yes, Dominique Leone posts on ILX.

Jesus, ILM these days is a chore.

― jaymc (jaymc), Sunday, 16 July 2006 05:40 (seventeen years ago) link

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