Why is casual racism/sexism more accepted in video games than other forms of media (these days)?

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loool

how's life, Wednesday, 15 October 2014 15:29 (nine years ago) link

the idea that online interaction is like some game simulating real world socialization def has some legs

the escalation model, from really awkward conversation to threats to calling swat teams or w/e really shows a lack of understanding about how the world works, although it really does seem like an echo of the 'war on terror' in some ways.

there's no end goal, though. do you want these people to leave your sphere, commit suicide, or what? it's like an obsessive-compulsive need to make your little cultural area a 'safe space', with the understanding that this safety means only arguments that you approve of can exist, only viewpoints within a certain range of variation exist, and thoughts that you don't want to have are kept at bay. it's as if the existence of alternative viewpoints is a threat to their sense of self.

people who base their self-image and sense of self worth on exclusion are doomed unless they can live in a world where they're a hegemony, and then they're still going to be circling the drain because the absence of outside ideas and influences is a death spiral

⌘-B (mh), Wednesday, 15 October 2014 15:32 (nine years ago) link

gamers need to learn to day whatever man

lag∞n, Wednesday, 15 October 2014 15:37 (nine years ago) link

like do they even toke weed wldnt that highten the gaming experince

lag∞n, Wednesday, 15 October 2014 15:37 (nine years ago) link

I don't know a thing about games these days, but I'm having trouble understanding what the gg beef is. Do they really think that if a game like Depression Quest gets a positive review on a website then every gaming company is going to stop producing the massively lucrative shit that gg folks like, and only put out games about navigating microaggressions and volunteering at crisis centers?

you walk on the street, grab the rock (President Keyes), Wednesday, 15 October 2014 15:41 (nine years ago) link

yes

bizarro gazzara, Wednesday, 15 October 2014 15:41 (nine years ago) link

they just think no one shd be able to say anything abt them especially girls

lag∞n, Wednesday, 15 October 2014 15:42 (nine years ago) link

m/l same as everyone else

lag∞n, Wednesday, 15 October 2014 15:42 (nine years ago) link

'ethics in video games journalism' really is a phrase that they're misusing, what they really mean is that journalists are acting against gamer ethics unless they work to further the current gaming culture and any deviation from that is unethical

don't know if they think depression quest style games will take over, they just literally don't like seeing them or reading about them on their websites/stores

⌘-B (mh), Wednesday, 15 October 2014 15:51 (nine years ago) link

probably because people who aren't them might be using steam or reading and contributing to their websites and they aren't comfortable with people unlike them

⌘-B (mh), Wednesday, 15 October 2014 15:51 (nine years ago) link

deadspin article is gooood

goole, Wednesday, 15 October 2014 16:17 (nine years ago) link

another hour, another gem

https://twitter.com/AlrightAnon/status/522414800148914176

(guys seems like another level of creepy shitbag, be warned)

goole, Wednesday, 15 October 2014 16:36 (nine years ago) link

What's made it effective, though, is that it's exploited the same basic loophole in the system that generations of social reactionaries have: the press's genuine and deep-seated belief that you gotta hear both sides. Even when not presupposing that all truth lies at a fixed point exactly equidistant between two competing positions, the American press works under the assumption that anyone more respectable than, say, an avowed neo-Nazi is operating in something like good faith.

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 15 October 2014 16:37 (nine years ago) link

Beäşt of Disçörd ‏@TheQuinnspiracy

it's the little things. Like seth rogan making fun of the actor who named the hate group that came out of yr shitty breakup #justgirlythings

jmm, Wednesday, 15 October 2014 16:42 (nine years ago) link

needs translation

am0n, Wednesday, 15 October 2014 17:06 (nine years ago) link

"I am happ with Seth Rogan because he clowned Adam Baldwin for supporting the dickbags who have been harassing me."

💪😈⚠️ (DJP), Wednesday, 15 October 2014 17:10 (nine years ago) link

i too am happ

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 15 October 2014 17:20 (nine years ago) link

new Pharre joint

Chimp Arsons, Wednesday, 15 October 2014 17:21 (nine years ago) link

Baldwin coined gamergate?

you walk on the street, grab the rock (President Keyes), Wednesday, 15 October 2014 17:23 (nine years ago) link

of the benign details involved in GamerGate, that is the one I find most hilarious

💪😈⚠️ (DJP), Wednesday, 15 October 2014 17:24 (nine years ago) link

Can anyone explain the The Fine Young Capitalists/Zoe Quinn aspect of the imbroglio? Most of GG has been rehashed many times, but any time I come across any references to TFYC, it seems like it was beamed in from a completely different dimension.

Like this morning, Quinn tweeted:

Beäşt of Disçörd ‏@TheQuinnspiracy

Also if anyone wants a storify of the truth about TFYC FINALLY coming out, here's a storify of that! https://storify.com/TheQuinnspiracy/tfyc-truth-finally-comes-out

And I'm like "oh good, I've been waiting for someone to make sense of this for me", but nope. I still got no clue.

how's life, Wednesday, 15 October 2014 17:28 (nine years ago) link

I guess the USU story has propelled this thing up another level. It's on the main page of the New York Times now. http://www.nytimes.com/2014/10/16/technology/gamergate-women-video-game-threats-anita-sarkeesian.html

jmm, Wednesday, 15 October 2014 18:19 (nine years ago) link

ya, causing the cancellation of a public event by threatening the largest school shooting in US history will do that

anonanon, Wednesday, 15 October 2014 18:24 (nine years ago) link

This is all so tragically pathetic. Half these idiots are probably counting this as a win.

💪😈⚠️ (DJP), Wednesday, 15 October 2014 18:42 (nine years ago) link

i have seen a lot of gamers say

1) omg big deal, trolls will be trolls, lighten up already

2) feminist false flag operation

the late great, Wednesday, 15 October 2014 18:44 (nine years ago) link

ya, causing the cancellation of a public event by threatening the largest school shooting in US history will do that

I'm seeing it in a few new places with the gun control angle being the thing emphasized. It's also embarrassing to the police, so kind of a perfect story.

jmm, Wednesday, 15 October 2014 20:04 (nine years ago) link

#SWATed

am0n, Wednesday, 15 October 2014 20:05 (nine years ago) link

still riding the tiger

https://twitter.com/CHSommers/status/522490480157024256

i tried watching some of the video out of fairness and found the people interviewed to be unwatchably incoherent and stupid and the host a dimwit

goole, Wednesday, 15 October 2014 21:14 (nine years ago) link

https://twitter.com/CCG2004/status/522490574574997506

lol

💪😈⚠️ (DJP), Wednesday, 15 October 2014 21:17 (nine years ago) link

they call her mom. it is so warped.

goole, Wednesday, 15 October 2014 21:20 (nine years ago) link

what is the fn deal w calling her mom

lag∞n, Wednesday, 15 October 2014 21:20 (nine years ago) link

i have seen a lot of gamers say

1) omg big deal, trolls will be trolls, lighten up already

2) feminist false flag operation

― the late great, Wednesday, October 15, 2014 2:44 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

fasle troll op

lag∞n, Wednesday, 15 October 2014 21:21 (nine years ago) link

"based mom" #actually

come to think of it i wonder if lil b has or will weigh in on this

goole, Wednesday, 15 October 2014 21:22 (nine years ago) link

what is the fn deal w calling her mom

https://twitter.com/CCG2004/status/522494966980149248

I really can't stop laughing at this shit

💪😈⚠️ (DJP), Wednesday, 15 October 2014 21:23 (nine years ago) link

I keep imagining Christina Somers taking chicken soup to sick GamerGaters, wiping their fevered brows, helping them with their math homework, tucking them in at night with a kiss on the forehead and a whispered "sleep well, my special little prince" in their ears

I fully recognize the regressive nature of many of these images and feel a little bad about it but OTOH lol

💪😈⚠️ (DJP), Wednesday, 15 October 2014 21:26 (nine years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YCExXie1XB4

the whole tone of nerds pretend jokey hauteur drives me insane they shd be executed

lag∞n, Wednesday, 15 October 2014 21:29 (nine years ago) link

yeah man the whole overenunciated manic vlogger steez is just mad bizarre to me, like i don't get how anyone can consider e.g. anthony fantano or who/e to have a natural or normal or... salubrious self-presentation

goole, Wednesday, 15 October 2014 21:33 (nine years ago) link

every nerd writes that way too like they arching their eyebrows at u cause their condescending routine is so cute and smart or something

lag∞n, Wednesday, 15 October 2014 21:37 (nine years ago) link

on some level its an obvs cover for social anxiety but damn man i dont wanna

lag∞n, Wednesday, 15 October 2014 21:39 (nine years ago) link

greeeetings ladies and gentlemen im the investigamer *smirk*

lag∞n, Wednesday, 15 October 2014 21:40 (nine years ago) link

I am not sure which is scarier, the idea that none of these people have social confidence or they do and this is how they convey it

⌘-B (mh), Wednesday, 15 October 2014 21:48 (nine years ago) link

he repeatedly says impartialty when he says impartiality through that whole video

lag∞n, Wednesday, 15 October 2014 21:57 (nine years ago) link

when he means lol

lag∞n, Wednesday, 15 October 2014 21:57 (nine years ago) link

the whole tone of nerds pretend jokey hauteur drives me insane they shd be executed

― lag∞n, Wednesday, October 15, 2014 5:29 PM (24 minutes ago)

irl fps

am0n, Wednesday, 15 October 2014 22:01 (nine years ago) link

he also pronounces brandeis "bran-day"

difficult listening hour, Wednesday, 15 October 2014 22:24 (nine years ago) link

the whole tone of nerds pretend jokey hauteur drives me insane they shd be executed

― lag∞n, Wednesday, October 15, 2014 2:29 PM (49 minutes ago) Bookmark

my best friend from high school grew up to become one of these people and has his xbox user name tattooed on his arm and i run into him at like weddings once every few years and he is completely intolerable to be around. his whole personality is such a lame imitation of what a human being is like and yet that's like somehow the cool way to be amongst these guys?

Clay, Wednesday, 15 October 2014 22:25 (nine years ago) link

(while listing mom's credentials as a scholar for "the completely non-partisan american enterprise institute" xp)

difficult listening hour, Wednesday, 15 October 2014 22:25 (nine years ago) link

it's like can-day

http://media.ticketmaster.com/tm/en-us/dbimages/97660a.jpg

xp

goole, Wednesday, 15 October 2014 22:26 (nine years ago) link

he also pronounces brandeis "bran-day"

― difficult listening hour, Wednesday, October 15, 2014 6:24 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

ha that is perfect

lag∞n, Wednesday, 15 October 2014 22:27 (nine years ago) link

LMFAO

💪😈⚠️ (DJP), Wednesday, 15 October 2014 22:28 (nine years ago) link


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