my only issue with the CD is it's incredibly quiet and i have to crank it up twice as loud to hear it well. i suspect the remastered version will be a big improvement.
and you may yet like it, D. you may yet.
― LIKE If you are against racism (omar little), Tuesday, 14 October 2014 18:20 (nine years ago) link
I love "Juanita/Kiteless" on Everything, Everything but that's partially because it turns into "Cups"
― 💪😈⚠️ (DJP), Tuesday, 14 October 2014 18:24 (nine years ago) link
Knowingly acquiescing to the Groundhogs Day that is ILM's ongoing STITI discussion, I hate hate hate hate hate the Everything, Everything version of "Juanita," which destroys its spell completely.
― Eric H., Tuesday, 14 October 2014 18:27 (nine years ago) link
lol come on
― 💪😈⚠️ (DJP), Tuesday, 14 October 2014 18:28 (nine years ago) link
i don't get that at all
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Tuesday, 14 October 2014 18:36 (nine years ago) link
but i do sort of get djp's issue with second toughest bc it took that record forever to unfold for me
Voting 'Dirty Epic' but 'Tongue' deserves a mention - there's post rock stuff I like mainly because it reminds me of that track.
― Gavin, Leeds, Tuesday, 14 October 2014 18:42 (nine years ago) link
What's so hard to get about someone liking a hypnotic track and then objecting when its live version turns it into a hyperventilating lager-lager anthem?
― Eric H., Tuesday, 14 October 2014 18:48 (nine years ago) link
The dryness of the backbeat cymbal snaps in the right channel when they come in? The rave-next-door "is that a choral wash" of the undulating chords when they finally come in about 3 minutes in? C'mon. No contest.
― Eric H., Tuesday, 14 October 2014 18:50 (nine years ago) link
But on record they did all of that much better on "Born Slippy (original)" anyway
― 💪😈⚠️ (DJP), Tuesday, 14 October 2014 18:53 (nine years ago) link
Wrong cymbal. Wrong chords.
― Eric H., Tuesday, 14 October 2014 18:53 (nine years ago) link
when its live version turns it into a hyperventilating lager-lager anthem?
i argue that it does not
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Tuesday, 14 October 2014 18:53 (nine years ago) link
it is maybe slightly inflated
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Tuesday, 14 October 2014 18:54 (nine years ago) link
also every beat-heavy thing they did in this time period was a lager-lager anthem in one way or another
― 💪😈⚠️ (DJP), Tuesday, 14 October 2014 18:55 (nine years ago) link
I hear no subtlety in the live version at all, and what I value the most about Underworld (at least prior to Beaucoup) is their droning om cred.
― Eric H., Tuesday, 14 October 2014 18:57 (nine years ago) link
Which is why I'm probably voting "Spoonman" here.
― Eric H., Tuesday, 14 October 2014 18:58 (nine years ago) link
Soz, but another big 'Dirty Epic' for me
― Jessie Fer Ark (Mobbed Up Ping Pong Psychos), Tuesday, 14 October 2014 18:59 (nine years ago) link
Dirty Epic into Cowgirl is all time. Voted for the latter.
― kraudive,
Between these two for me.
― the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Tuesday, 14 October 2014 21:12 (nine years ago) link
Think I'll listen to the whole thing while I do the tidying tomorrow and decide then (maybe not the last two tracks).
― the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Tuesday, 14 October 2014 21:13 (nine years ago) link
Voting 'Dirty Epic' but 'Tongue' deserves a mention
― Gavin, Leeds
Came here to post exactly this. Tongue is a really beautiful song. Never thought of it as post rock but it really doesn't sound that far away from someone like Bark Psychosis at all.
― Kitchen Person, Tuesday, 14 October 2014 22:03 (nine years ago) link
Remaster is pretty ace. I think all UW albums sound great but those first two were so unusually quiet. Very noticeable difference. If they do this for all 6 of their albums I will be in paradise, not that any of them really need a remaster (STITI is quiet but sounds absolutely amazing) Underworld is the sort of band where opening the vaults is a very very good thing, as in addition to their many many amazing B-sides there are a ton of rare tunes out there that just kill
― Maggie killed Quagmire (collest baby ever) (frogbs), Wednesday, 15 October 2014 21:25 (nine years ago) link
Did you get the 5-disc? Man it's tempting.
― LIKE If you are against racism (omar little), Wednesday, 15 October 2014 21:26 (nine years ago) link
yeah - it's one of my favorite albums ever so I figured I would jump on it. but I haven't listened to discs 2-5 yet.
― Maggie killed Quagmire (collest baby ever) (frogbs), Wednesday, 15 October 2014 21:34 (nine years ago) link
Mmmm Skyscraper... for me. I started listening to the bonus material yesterday, some interesting re-works there.
― Barry Gordy (Neil S), Thursday, 16 October 2014 08:08 (nine years ago) link
Dirty Epic is the heart of the album for me - real sadness in the grimy nightcrawling. Surfboy's the only one that underwhelms. ME, I recently learned, was their attempt at doing something like Steve Miller's Fly Like an Eagle. I like it because it's the last trace of their Balearic phase.
― Re-Make/Re-Model, Thursday, 16 October 2014 08:55 (nine years ago) link
Hoping they do something similar for STITI in a couple of years - that would probably be the only other 5 CD version I'd buy though.
― groovypanda, Thursday, 16 October 2014 09:23 (nine years ago) link
Beaucoup Fish had some interesting remixes IIRC- Dave Clarke, Chemical Bros etc. which would make the expanded version of that worth hearing, if they bother.
― Barry Gordy (Neil S), Thursday, 16 October 2014 09:31 (nine years ago) link
From memory wasn't BF the first time they got others in to remix their work. Previously it was mainly just Rick wasn't it?
― groovypanda, Thursday, 16 October 2014 10:06 (nine years ago) link
Born Slippy Nuxx and Banstyle were remixed by Darren Price and Alex Reece prior to BS LP but yeah surprising lack of remixes from others before that.
― nashwan, Thursday, 16 October 2014 10:42 (nine years ago) link
Listened and decided: it is Cowgirl.
― the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Thursday, 16 October 2014 12:09 (nine years ago) link
This reissue and gig sent me scurrying to find digital copies of their old remixes of other acts. I wish there was a compilation of the best ones but they were so long it would have to run for hours.
― Re-Make/Re-Model, Thursday, 16 October 2014 12:12 (nine years ago) link
Yeah and this is where things get a little spotty, Rick's own remixes of UW material have been amazing and often result in tunes very different from the originals while some of the outside remixes feel a little substandard. I got the BF singles boxset way back when and I remember really liking one track per disc but kinda forgetting the rest. That said if it has stuff like "Five Points" or "Cappe Ffuno" I will gladly shell out for it.
Ditto for Barking (if they get that far) - I'm suddenly reminded of how many excellent versions of "Always Loved a Film" there was. The only time UW have disappointed me was on that 2-disc version with all the "alternate" takes that more of a "works in progress" disc more than the nearly-finished versions they were playing live and on radio broadcasts.
― Maggie killed Quagmire (collest baby ever) (frogbs), Thursday, 16 October 2014 13:10 (nine years ago) link
― groovypanda, Thursday, 16 October 2014 19:08 (nine years ago) link
Was the Cafe Del Mar one "Second Hand"?
― Maggie killed Quagmire (collest baby ever) (frogbs), Thursday, 16 October 2014 19:41 (nine years ago) link
Dirty Epic will surely walk this, but am tempted to vote River of Bass just to give it a look-in
― Dr X O'Skeleton, Thursday, 16 October 2014 19:56 (nine years ago) link
No. Second Hand was an 'edit' of their 20 minute long Thing In A Book mix of Dark & Long that appeared on the first Cafe Del Mar comp.
I meant their actual remix of the track Cafe Del Mar by Mental Generation:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2DJg5ABvk-E
― groovypanda, Friday, 17 October 2014 07:27 (nine years ago) link
ah. was confused about that one. never heard many of those early UW remixes, maybe I should seek 'em out.
I still think "Dirty Epic" will be #1 here, but I'm getting the feeling that everyone's just going to vote for their second favorite? "Dirty Epic" is just so massive and all-encompassing, it has so many layers and such a wealth of great moments, I find it hard to believe that it began life as just a remix; to me it's one of the greatest songs ever recorded. Like the ultimate Pet Shop Boys tune that the PSBs couldn't write themselves.
― Maggie killed Quagmire (collest baby ever) (frogbs), Friday, 17 October 2014 12:47 (nine years ago) link
I actually prefer both the "Dirty" and "Dirty Guitar" versions to the album mix. (Sorry, not ducking.)
― Eric H., Friday, 17 October 2014 13:22 (nine years ago) link
I'm waiting for my 5CD to arrive, it's starting to feel like it's stuck or lost somewhere. Got a download code but that's only for the album itself.
― StanM, Friday, 17 October 2014 20:12 (nine years ago) link
i love "dirty guitar" but i can't imagine preferring the og "dirty"
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Friday, 17 October 2014 20:16 (nine years ago) link
sorry eric apparently u baffle me on the reg
I prefer "Thing In A Book" to anything else they've made but it's not on this album either.
― Acting Crazy (Instrumental) (jed_), Friday, 17 October 2014 21:27 (nine years ago) link
Is it just me or are there 3 different versions of Dark Train? 9'52" / 10'24" / 10'53"
― StanM, Saturday, 18 October 2014 18:54 (nine years ago) link
Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.
― System, Wednesday, 29 October 2014 00:01 (nine years ago) link
Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.
― System, Thursday, 30 October 2014 00:01 (nine years ago) link
this 5-disc remaster is so good; never realized what a jam "Dogman Go Woof" is
― Abstinence Hawk (frogbs), Friday, 31 October 2014 13:08 (nine years ago) link
I finally received it this week - when the guy at the post office returned with it I thought "you idiot, you ordered the vinyl" to myself - hadn't looked at the pictures of the package in detail before :-)
But yeah, it's very good indeed, I hope they do 5-disc versions of the next two albums too.
― StanM, Friday, 31 October 2014 13:36 (nine years ago) link
Yeah, that was like when my Kraftwerk box arrived, was totally expecting a five-inch square thing
― Mark G, Friday, 31 October 2014 13:45 (nine years ago) link
I would probably order a 5-disc version of all of their albums. As I've mentioned a dozen times they have sooo much good stuff squared away.
This 3rd disc, with "Thing in a Book" and "Most 'Ospitable" is so ace. TiaB would probably be a top 5 for me track if we did a poll right now. Maybe even like, #1.
― Abstinence Hawk (frogbs), Friday, 31 October 2014 14:06 (nine years ago) link
Put on the Steppin Razor mix of Song of Life yesterday while going through Underworld remixes on vinyl and holy cow, what an awesome remix. That and Schmoo remix sounded incredible.
― brotherlovesdub, Friday, 31 October 2014 14:38 (nine years ago) link
'Dirty Epic' and 'Cowgirl' back to back = the peak of this album, for me. Just fucking sublime. Although I don't understand why folks are so down on 'M.E.' ... I love that one!
― Turrican, Wednesday, 1 June 2016 19:57 (seven years ago) link
M.E is ace. One of my favourite tracks of theirs.
― groovypanda, Wednesday, 1 June 2016 20:01 (seven years ago) link
"Surfboy" is underrated IMO
― DJP, Wednesday, 1 June 2016 20:16 (seven years ago) link
As is 'Tongue', which is probably their best track in that mould.
― Turrican, Wednesday, 1 June 2016 20:36 (seven years ago) link