imo the biggest crime of Borat is using Kazakhstan, an actual place, as a stand-in for the other because it was a convenient stand-in
― ⌘-B (mh), Tuesday, 7 October 2014 15:47 (nine years ago) link
well I dunno if he could've booked all those interviews or appearances or w/e using some fake country so I guess he kinda had to
― Maggie killed Quagmire (collest baby ever) (frogbs), Tuesday, 7 October 2014 15:50 (nine years ago) link
Well, OTOH, a Kazakh director made an unofficial sequel to raise the country's image and the punchline to the movie was "Hey, these guys aren't even really Kazakh, they're Jews from Romania" so . . .
― bippity bup at the hotel california (Phil D.), Tuesday, 7 October 2014 15:51 (nine years ago) link
^^^
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 7 October 2014 15:53 (nine years ago) link
If I were Indian or Jewish, for exampleIf I were Indian or Jewish, for exampleIf I were Indian or Jewish, for exampleIf I were Indian or Jewish, for exampleIf I were Indian or Jewish, for exampleIf I were Indian or Jewish, for exampleIf I were Indian or Jewish, for example
― Guayaquil (eephus!), Tuesday, 7 October 2014 15:54 (nine years ago) link
and it's not that there aren't rabid anti-semites in Kazakhstan - I'm sure there are - but caricaturing them that way, the entire character of Borat, is totally racist
xp
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 7 October 2014 15:54 (nine years ago) link
he portrays their entire culture as backward, incestuous, nothing but poor dumb peasants etc.
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 7 October 2014 15:55 (nine years ago) link
every generation gets the Yakov Smirnoff they deserve
― ⌘-B (mh), Tuesday, 7 October 2014 15:56 (nine years ago) link
I love how dude sets the stage by pretending that massive hit "Clarissa Explains It All" was only retroactively appreciated due to Melissa Joan Hart's star turn on "Sabrina, The Teenage Witch" and then jumps whole hog into "oh btw I'm a virulent racist too, let me show you all the ways I suck" with zero prompting
― 💪😈⚠️ (DJP), Tuesday, 7 October 2014 15:57 (nine years ago) link
Wow that Pete & Pete interview went downhill rather quickly.
― pplains, Tuesday, 7 October 2014 15:58 (nine years ago) link
Blah blah blah pure, fervent nostalgia blah blah blah ren and stimpy melissa joan hart blah blah blah whitewashed suburbs blah blah blah SPEAKING OF WHICH….
― pplains, Tuesday, 7 October 2014 15:59 (nine years ago) link
In for a dime, in for a dollar.
― bippity bup at the hotel california (Phil D.), Tuesday, 7 October 2014 15:59 (nine years ago) link
Holy shit, wow did that interview go downhill
― Nhex, Tuesday, 7 October 2014 16:01 (nine years ago) link
Like he just keeps digging the hole for himselfAt least he's being more openly racist in his nostalgia. WHITE PEOPLE ARE PEOPLE TOO, YA KNOW
― Nhex, Tuesday, 7 October 2014 16:02 (nine years ago) link
Imagining this full grown guy watching kiddie shows all day and getting mad that they have Indian characters.
― King Clone (Crabbits), Tuesday, 7 October 2014 16:04 (nine years ago) link
Admit I got a good chuckle out of the little spiteful footnote that confirms the obvious that yes, Clarissa Explains It All was immensely popular
― Nhex, Tuesday, 7 October 2014 16:04 (nine years ago) link
I'm gonna spend the rest of my day going up to Indian people and asking them if there's a reason they're Indian
― Guayaquil (eephus!), Tuesday, 7 October 2014 16:04 (nine years ago) link
Love the concern trolling about "sure, the character and voice actor are Indian, but why can't the producers be Indian too? Otherwise it's just racist." GREAT IDEA I'M SURE THEY'LL BE HIRING LOTS OF MINORITY DIRECTORS/PRODUCERS ANY SECOND NOW.
― bippity bup at the hotel california (Phil D.), Tuesday, 7 October 2014 16:04 (nine years ago) link
he is definitely rarin' to share his opinions
They’re doing it just for that reason: “Hey, here is the Jewish character” or “Hey, here’s the Indian character” or “Hey, here’s the token black,” which I think South Park does so amazingly well. For example, I’ve worked very closely with people with disabilities, volunteering, sometimes paid, and I love what South Park does. They show those characters as quote-unquote real people. They fight, they cuss, they take drugs. They do everything all the rest of the kids do. That’s great.
― the other song about butts in the top 5 (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 7 October 2014 16:05 (nine years ago) link
I don't know anything about this Clarissa show, but I don't understand why the lead had to be a girl. Couldn't it have been written by men and star a boy? Seems kind of contrived.
― ⌘-B (mh), Tuesday, 7 October 2014 16:06 (nine years ago) link
People WIth Disabilities: They Fight, They Cuss, They Take Drugs.That's Great.
― the other song about butts in the top 5 (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 7 October 2014 16:06 (nine years ago) link
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1493227/bio?ref_=nm_ov_bio_sm
this guy made a docu about Kids of Whidney HighI am sure in the kindest of spirits
― King Clone (Crabbits), Tuesday, 7 October 2014 16:08 (nine years ago) link
I am feeling personally vindicated that a lot of my dating red flags (grownup obsessed with childhood entertainments, enjoys Kids of Whidney High) coincide with him being an odious bigot when given the chance to reveal it
― King Clone (Crabbits), Tuesday, 7 October 2014 16:10 (nine years ago) link
yes this was amazing
― 💪😈⚠️ (DJP), Tuesday, 7 October 2014 16:14 (nine years ago) link
YESSSSS But anyway, back to Pete & Pete, the best show on television.
― Orson Wellies (in orbit), Tuesday, 7 October 2014 16:33 (nine years ago) link
Why was it the best? I can't really tell you that, it was just genius, better than anything else. It had a certain...ineffable quality (of whiteness and maleness). But definitely the best show ever created.
― Orson Wellies (in orbit), Tuesday, 7 October 2014 16:34 (nine years ago) link
how the hell did you have cable tv as a kid?!?
― ⌘-B (mh), Tuesday, 7 October 2014 16:36 (nine years ago) link
I stopped pay attention as soon as he used the word "ineffable" tbh. IT'S YOUR JOB TO MAKE IT EFFABLE, THIS IS NOT MAGIC.
― Orson Wellies (in orbit), Tuesday, 7 October 2014 16:36 (nine years ago) link
I have this weird image of people around my age who have all these nickelodeon memories, sorry
― ⌘-B (mh), Tuesday, 7 October 2014 16:37 (nine years ago) link
Who, me? Was Nickelodeon a cable channel? I can't remember.
― Orson Wellies (in orbit), Tuesday, 7 October 2014 16:38 (nine years ago) link
haha mh otmthe only kid on my block who had nickelodeon was the same kid who would try to end playground disputes with "well my dad's a lawyer and he'll sue you"
― King Clone (Crabbits), Tuesday, 7 October 2014 16:39 (nine years ago) link
mh yea me too xp. felt like an outsider for many reasons growing up but honestly not having cable and everybody in school talking about this nickelodeon bullshit and all these weird-ass shows was not an insubstantial one
― marcos, Tuesday, 7 October 2014 16:39 (nine years ago) link
I don't know what you all are talking about, the article clearly states that "There is no era of television that inspires such a pure, fervent nostalgia as the Golden Age of Nickelodeon. "
― pplains, Tuesday, 7 October 2014 16:40 (nine years ago) link
we had illegal cable
― jello my future biafriend (roxymuzak), Tuesday, 7 October 2014 16:40 (nine years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E7iSILfWm2Y
― da croupier, Tuesday, 7 October 2014 16:41 (nine years ago) link
Yes!
I remember when I was a kid being completely mystified by the girl down the street saying her family didn't have cable, and I was like... yeah, you do. Apparently she was under the impression only premium channels were cable.
When I was a kid we had the local affiliates for ABC, CBS, NBC, PBS, and in the late 80s/early 90s, FOX. I think sometime after then some mostly-infomercial crap that barely came in was on some higher channel with occasional syndicated reruns.
― ⌘-B (mh), Tuesday, 7 October 2014 16:42 (nine years ago) link
every kid in my elementary school who had cable had divorced parents and conspicuously new backpacks or video games because their dads were overcompensating. also they were apparently raised by Nickelodeon reruns of the brady bunch or something
― ⌘-B (mh), Tuesday, 7 October 2014 16:44 (nine years ago) link
wow you've got some serious lingering resentments there
― da croupier, Tuesday, 7 October 2014 16:44 (nine years ago) link
perhaps you should talk to flavorwire about it
― da croupier, Tuesday, 7 October 2014 16:45 (nine years ago) link
I think you're confusing resentment with a superiority complex, which I probably do have on these things
Also, my parents managed to get satellite tv two months before I went to college. I think they figured they needed something to pass the time without me yammering all the time.
― ⌘-B (mh), Tuesday, 7 October 2014 16:48 (nine years ago) link
― ⌘-B (mh), Tuesday, October 7, 2014 12:42 PM (6 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
yea me too. my parents finally got cable/satellite maybe 5 years ago
― marcos, Tuesday, 7 October 2014 16:50 (nine years ago) link
there was a brief period when "much music" or something came in through lousy reception, but that didn't last long
It's a shame that this author seems like a tool, as his is a book I'd otherwise love to read (a la the MTV oral history from a couple years back).
I can't even envision an '80s childhood without Nickelodeon. Y'all have my deepest sympathies.
― Certified Genious (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 7 October 2014 16:53 (nine years ago) link
We didn't have much, but at least we had cable.
dunno what this tool is watching but in most of the Disney/Nick shows I've seen, whenever there's an Indian character his race is 90 percent of the punchlines
― Chimp Arsons, Tuesday, 7 October 2014 16:54 (nine years ago) link
we had reagan and white flight
― ⌘-B (mh), Tuesday, 7 October 2014 16:54 (nine years ago) link
Last Saturday: http://gizmodo.com/this-is-the-first-weekend-in-america-with-no-saturday-m-1642441646
The one broadcast holdout all this time? CW.
― pplains, Tuesday, 7 October 2014 16:55 (nine years ago) link
http://assets.nydailynews.com/polopoly_fs/1.1458788!/img/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/article_970/nick22f-4-web.jpg
― LIKE If you are against racism (omar little), Tuesday, 7 October 2014 16:58 (nine years ago) link
xp tbf, there's an entire 24 hour NETWORK for saturday morning cartoons in Boomerang
― the other song about butts in the top 5 (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 7 October 2014 17:01 (nine years ago) link
on cable tv
― ⌘-B (mh), Tuesday, 7 October 2014 17:02 (nine years ago) link