Also remember reading a story about how clinics are refusing to accept donations from gingers because they are overloaded w ginger sperm and i guess nobody wants a ginger child?
people still using the word "ginger"?
― Yo Gotti Nutter Ting Hummin' (President Keyes), Friday, 3 October 2014 01:38 (nine years ago) link
only for things that are ginger
― zero content albums (darraghmac), Friday, 3 October 2014 01:39 (nine years ago) link
You must be a ginger xp
― 龜, Friday, 3 October 2014 01:40 (nine years ago) link
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/hurt-dave-seeing-red-697081
― C21H23NO5 (nakhchivan), Friday, 3 October 2014 01:42 (nine years ago) link
proceed gingerly
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 3 October 2014 01:42 (nine years ago) link
Shameful article xp
Didn't even include a picture so we could have a look for ourselves
― 龜, Friday, 3 October 2014 01:44 (nine years ago) link
http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Football/Clubs/Club%20Home/2009/3/12/1236897828691/Dave-Kitson-001.jpg
looks like a hot head.
― pplains, Friday, 3 October 2014 01:45 (nine years ago) link
i can see why he's getting all fired up.
― pplains, Friday, 3 October 2014 01:46 (nine years ago) link
I feel like red-haired people generally underrated and non-red haired people who try for red are overrated
― ⌘-B (mh), Friday, 3 October 2014 01:51 (nine years ago) link
this is the thread where I out my ginger-haired woman interests
― ⌘-B (mh), Friday, 3 October 2014 01:52 (nine years ago) link
ROLLING DAVE KITSON THREAD
― zero content albums (darraghmac), Friday, 3 October 2014 01:52 (nine years ago) link
Handsome but sounds like a right pain in the ass.
― Laurel, Monday, January 28, 2008 5:32 PM (6 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Er. What was the question again?
vmic btw
― zero content albums (darraghmac), Friday, 3 October 2014 01:53 (nine years ago) link
:)
― ⌘-B (mh), Friday, 3 October 2014 01:54 (nine years ago) link
― zero content albums (darraghmac), Thursday, October 2, 2014 8:52 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Well of course there's a thred about that.
― pplains, Friday, 3 October 2014 01:56 (nine years ago) link
Why isn't is ROILING DAVE KITSON THREAD?
― 龜, Friday, 3 October 2014 01:57 (nine years ago) link
TROLLING DAVE KITSON, RED
― LIKE If you are against racism (omar little), Friday, 3 October 2014 01:58 (nine years ago) link
this is a key moment in ilx us-uk relations
― Ƹ༑Ʒ (imago), Friday, 3 October 2014 01:59 (nine years ago) link
nobody fuck this up
― 龜, Thursday, October 2, 2014 9:40 PM (16 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Actually I'm a Gilligan.
― Yo Gotti Nutter Ting Hummin' (President Keyes), Friday, 3 October 2014 02:01 (nine years ago) link
BUT i do think you should be required by law to get inseminated at random.
Seeing as how people don't pick their sexual partners at random, but look for traits they find attractive, it feels a bit arbitrary to suggest that those who have to seek alternative methods of insemination should be forced to spin a big wheel. that only folks engaging in "traditional" insemination should have any authority over what genes they put inside themselves.
unless you're saying that NO ONE should get to pick their partner in procreation - in which case, good luck with that sci-fi shit
― da croupier, Friday, 3 October 2014 06:14 (nine years ago) link
Brave New Spigot
― the other song about butts in the top 5 (forksclovetofu), Friday, 3 October 2014 06:18 (nine years ago) link
Logan's Cum
― nickn, Friday, 3 October 2014 07:22 (nine years ago) link
rah
― zero content albums (darraghmac), Friday, 3 October 2014 07:24 (nine years ago) link
dysfallopian
xpost to harbl
yeah for this to be actual medical ~malpractice~ there has to be substantive harm, it may not be enough that an obvious (but totally benign) mistake was made
― gbx, Friday, 3 October 2014 11:00 (nine years ago) link
hence making the case that the "harm" is inherent to being a biracial kid in garbagetown USA
but like if the goal is just to shutter an incompetent sperm bank (and not to recoup losses that basically don't exist) then there are other ways to go about it I'd think
― gbx, Friday, 3 October 2014 11:04 (nine years ago) link
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You say Lady Gaga, I say Lady Antebellum. You say Jason Derulo, I say Jason Aldean. You say T-Pain, I say T-Swift You say Ke$ha, I say Kenny. You say Pitbull, I say Paisley. You say Justin Bieber, I say Justin Moore and go grow a pair. 92% of teenagers have turned to Hip Hop and Pop. If you are part of the 8% that still listen to real music, copy and paste this message to another 3 videos. Stop being a idiot and start listening to real music!!! COUNTRY!! thumbs up!!! BTW Brantley Gilbert is one of the best country artists.
This is the worst queen cover I've ever heard.
― how's life, Friday, 3 October 2014 11:08 (nine years ago) link
omg rolling dave kitson might be my fave britisher thread, what a day
― goole, Friday, 3 October 2014 16:11 (nine years ago) link
― gbx, Friday, October 3, 2014 7:00 AM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― gbx, Friday, October 3, 2014 7:04 AM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
I agree that the "wrongful birth" cause of action is probably a huge stretch, but there's also a breach of warranty claim, which is sort of interesting. If you go to a sperm bank that gives you the option of choosing donor traits, are you entitled to "get what you paid for"? I think you probably should be. I mean when you physically mate with someone, you have that option, even with racist motivations, so I don't really think sperm banks should function differently. What the appropriate compensation would be I have no fucking idea.
― my jaw left (Hurting 2), Friday, 3 October 2014 16:33 (nine years ago) link
lol HL
― Nhex, Friday, 3 October 2014 16:35 (nine years ago) link
it may not be enough that an obvious (but totally benign) mistake was made
I'm not...I don't want to argue at all with the racism call. But impregnating someone with sperm they didn't volunteer to get pregnant by is a lot closer to rape than anyone seems to be acknowledging. It's non-consensual impregnation. It's horrifying.
― Orson Wellies (in orbit), Friday, 3 October 2014 16:44 (nine years ago) link
Imo to make light of that issue is to also condone other ways of taking control of their own fertility away from women.
― Orson Wellies (in orbit), Friday, 3 October 2014 16:48 (nine years ago) link
this is prob glib but i have trouble thinking thru this cos the scenario of "lesbian couple in rural ohio delivers biracial child from sperm bank mixup" is giving me really insane "we live in a shitty david mamet play" vibes
― goole, Friday, 3 October 2014 16:50 (nine years ago) link
xp Or I mean not explicitly CONDONE them but the logic of it also supports other invasions. Oh, she wanted a baby, she got a baby, she'll be happy once her (natural, feminine) maternal instinct kicks in. Mothers always love their children, and if not they're bad mothers and bad women, and it's their own fault. It's nothing WE did, we just gave her a baby (that her own body nourished and made space for and gave life to).
― Orson Wellies (in orbit), Friday, 3 October 2014 16:51 (nine years ago) link
laurel otm
― my jaw left (Hurting 2), Friday, 3 October 2014 16:54 (nine years ago) link
We support the right of women to choose whose baby they have when they know who the father is, and the checklist of traits in a sperm bank is basically the best proxy we have for that when they never actually meet/know the father. And imo those traits should include anything a woman wants to consider, even if it's race.
― my jaw left (Hurting 2), Friday, 3 October 2014 16:55 (nine years ago) link
No, I think they're two separate problems--like Dan said, it would be best if they won this case for the precedent but weren't rewarded for singling out race as the key argument.
― Orson Wellies (in orbit), Friday, 3 October 2014 17:15 (nine years ago) link
are they really gonna bring the race argument into court cuz that just seems stupid and unnecessary
― Οὖτις, Friday, 3 October 2014 17:18 (nine years ago) link
Probably. The gas costs of traveling to a hair salon in a black neighborhood really add up.
― Portly Backgammon (Old Lunch), Friday, 3 October 2014 17:27 (nine years ago) link
i was really surprised to hear that they were only seeking $50k....?
― zero content albums (darraghmac), Friday, 3 October 2014 17:27 (nine years ago) link
How do you argue this without race? Like how would you show that it wasn't the donor she wanted? Not being rhetorical - is there other evidence that she got a different donor than she wanted?
― my jaw left (Hurting 2), Friday, 3 October 2014 17:28 (nine years ago) link
I admit I dunno how these places really work but I would assume they picked a specific donor and that not getting that donor's sperm is all that matters
― Οὖτις, Friday, 3 October 2014 17:29 (nine years ago) link
Not being rhetorical - is there other evidence that she got a different donor than she wanted?
from the chicago tribune article
After searching through pages of comprehensive histories for their top three donors, the lawsuit claims, Cramblett and her domestic partner, Amanda Zinkon, chose donor No. 380, who was also white. Their doctor in Ohio received vials from donor No. 330, who is African-American, the lawsuit said.
Cramblett, 36, learned of the mistake in April 2012, when she was pregnant and ordering more vials so that the couple could have another child with sperm from the same donor, according to the lawsuit. The sperm bank delivered vials from the correct donor in August 2011, but Cramblett later requested more vials, according to the suit.
― da croupier, Friday, 3 October 2014 17:31 (nine years ago) link
Ah yeah, that seems kind of obvious now. Brainfart.
I agree that if I were her lawyer, the last thing I'd probably want to do is come into court saying "My client doesn't want a black child."
― my jaw left (Hurting 2), Friday, 3 October 2014 17:33 (nine years ago) link
has anyone thought that maybe the plaintiff here had really bad handwriting and her 8 looked like a 3
― ⌘-B (mh), Friday, 3 October 2014 17:55 (nine years ago) link
that did cross my mind
― example (crüt), Friday, 3 October 2014 17:57 (nine years ago) link
yes, I have thought this
the plaintiff still has a case, obviously
― 💪😈⚠️ (DJP), Friday, 3 October 2014 17:58 (nine years ago) link
most certainly. this seems like something that might need a little more verification, for sure.
― ⌘-B (mh), Friday, 3 October 2014 18:01 (nine years ago) link
BTW, it doesn't actually say she's seeking $50k, just that damages "exceed $50k" and are "to be determined at trial." There's a formality in many states that you have to plead that your damages exceed a certain amount in order to be in one court vs another.
― my jaw left (Hurting 2), Friday, 3 October 2014 18:20 (nine years ago) link
Kind of also wonder if they could have just called this an ordinary negligence tort. The "wrongful birth" claim is usually for situations where the doctor fails to inform about or prevent some very severe deformity/disability that would or might have caused the parents to abort -- obviously using that theory here has some pretty disgusting implications, and I can't imagine it flies.
― my jaw left (Hurting 2), Friday, 3 October 2014 18:24 (nine years ago) link