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Hey Donut bitch, what the fuck are you arguing here?!

If he doesn't want to read it, I'm not trying to fucking make him!

Using a previously written book as the basis of an argument makes me into a "snob"?! What the fuck is wrong with you?

ddrake, Tuesday, 18 November 2003 01:13 (twenty years ago) link

Remember how I initially brought up the book?

AS A FUCKING RECOMMENDATION.

ddrake, Tuesday, 18 November 2003 01:14 (twenty years ago) link

Someone lock this fucking thread, I have shit to do, and I don't need to hear any more of this bullshit.

ddrake, Tuesday, 18 November 2003 01:15 (twenty years ago) link

If he doesn't want to read it, I'm not trying to fucking make him!

*scratches head, looks upthread*

Seriously Ned, read Blues People.
To quote big lebowski.

"You're out of yr element donnie."

Bam.

-- ddrake (ddrak...), November 17th, 2003. (later)

Maybe there's a Dr. D. and Mr. Drake situation here.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 18 November 2003 01:15 (twenty years ago) link

Someone lock this fucking thread, I have shit to do, and I don't need to hear any more of this bullshit.

Yes, we will lock threads for you because you can't control yourself posting on them.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 18 November 2003 01:16 (twenty years ago) link

Using a previously written book as the basis of an argument makes me into a "snob"?! What the fuck is wrong with you?

Because the person you're arguing with has the unfair advantage of not having the knowledge contained within the book, and therefore not only makes the continuation of said argument silly and invalid but gives you gloating points for being more "literate". Don't pretend otherwise, fucker x 401. (Sorry, had to one up Ned there)

donut bitch (donut), Tuesday, 18 November 2003 01:16 (twenty years ago) link

Actually Ned, "Read it motherfuckers" was the first recommendation.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 18 November 2003 01:16 (twenty years ago) link

..a strategy often used by fundamentalists, quite often. Almost a colloquial definition of one, in fact.

donut bitch (donut), Tuesday, 18 November 2003 01:17 (twenty years ago) link

x-post

not that you're "not arguing correctly" - Baraka himself would point out that the ways in which one frames one's arguments speak as loudly as and possibly louder than the arguments themselves

but y'all don't hear me though -B.I.G.

J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Tuesday, 18 November 2003 01:17 (twenty years ago) link

Actually Ned, "Read it motherfuckers" was the first recommendation.

Hey, you're right! And what a clear and sweet recommendation it was! Like saying the word 'fucker,' it is done out of love.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 18 November 2003 01:17 (twenty years ago) link

x-post

this is NOT a semantic issue and to pretend it is is ungallant

J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Tuesday, 18 November 2003 01:18 (twenty years ago) link

Yeah, that was "making" you read the book. Inherent in the way I approached telling you about it was a "HEY NED, I RECOMMEND TO YOU THIS BOOK!"

Because the person you're arguing with has the unfair advantage of not having the knowledge contained within the book, and therefore not only makes the continuation of said argument silly and invalid but gives you gloating points for being more "literate". Don't pretend otherwise, fucker x 401. (Sorry, had to one up Ned there)

What the fuck!? That's why I RECOMMENDED HE READ IT, because he DIDN'T have the knowledge contained within. HOW THE FUCK DOES THAT MAKE ME A SNOB!?

Actually Ned, "Read it motherfuckers" was the first recommendation

That was definitely before any animosity had developed in the thread, and "motherfuckers" was not used in the same way I've been using profanity for the last couple posts.
Nice try taking it out of context though.

ddrake, Tuesday, 18 November 2003 01:18 (twenty years ago) link

Take Me To the Land Of Selective Memory, Aunt Emma!

donut bitch (donut), Tuesday, 18 November 2003 01:19 (twenty years ago) link

It made me want to read it, Ned.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 18 November 2003 01:19 (twenty years ago) link

It did NOT, however, make me want to fuck his mother.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 18 November 2003 01:19 (twenty years ago) link

What the fuck!? That's why I RECOMMENDED HE READ IT, because he DIDN'T have the knowledge contained within. HOW THE FUCK DOES THAT MAKE ME A SNOB!?

Jesus H., the Mormons make their case better. Scratch that, the LaRouchians.

It did NOT, however, make me want to fuck his mother.

Then clearly he has failed in his grand mission.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 18 November 2003 01:20 (twenty years ago) link

Take Me To the Land Of Selective Memory, Aunt Emma!

As I said.

That was definitely before any animosity had developed in the thread, and "motherfuckers" was not used in the same way I've been using profanity for the last couple posts.
Nice try taking it out of context though.

ddrake, Tuesday, 18 November 2003 01:20 (twenty years ago) link

There goes ned, being a wiseass again.

HO HHO HO HO OH O

ddrake, Tuesday, 18 November 2003 01:21 (twenty years ago) link

Anyway, seriously ddrake -- here's all you had to say:

"There's this really good book I've read called Blues People by Leroi Jones. It makes some great points on this argument that I think can apply today and to this argument -- if you haven't read it, give it a try. I really like it because [reasons x, y, z]."

Had you just said that or something like it, I don't think much of this thread would exist in the first place. Why does being 'provocative' make your point stronger?

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 18 November 2003 01:22 (twenty years ago) link

heres a medal if you've managed to read down this far.
really, you deserve it. (i skipped almost all of it)
http://www.veteransforpr.com/images/medal.jpg


the first thing i thought of when i saw the original question(s) was the 9 minute version of 'a day like no other' by Company Flow featuring assorted japanese MCs, its got lots of different sections, i've always thought of it as a sort of prog track. erm, thats all.

zappi (joni), Tuesday, 18 November 2003 01:22 (twenty years ago) link

Do think maybe the phrases "Read it motherfuckers" and "You're out of your element, Donnie" might have in some way OH contributed to the ANIMOSITY on the thread?

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 18 November 2003 01:22 (twenty years ago) link

http://www.nottinghamevents.org/goosefair/images/lollipop.jpg

oops (Oops), Tuesday, 18 November 2003 01:22 (twenty years ago) link

What the fuck!? That's why I RECOMMENDED HE READ IT, because he DIDN'T have the knowledge contained within. HOW THE FUCK DOES THAT MAKE ME A SNOB!?

Because you dropped your cards and claimed yourself winner of the argument the easy way... It's pointless to continue.. here, go to Amazon and check out Pedro V. Pajitnov's Debate and Demeanor. So you can school yourself, because it looks like you need it.

donut bitch (donut), Tuesday, 18 November 2003 01:23 (twenty years ago) link

By making you seem like a condescending dumb-ass, dontchya know?

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 18 November 2003 01:23 (twenty years ago) link

Clarity! Again!

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 18 November 2003 01:23 (twenty years ago) link

Do think maybe the phrases "Read it motherfuckers" and "You're out of your element, Donnie" might have in some way OH contributed to the ANIMOSITY on the thread?

It shouldn't have. "Mothefuckers" was not intended to suggest animosity, and was rather a general, "what's up, fuckers." Not intended to be insulting, particularly. I'm sorry if you read it that way.

Had you just said that or something like it, I don't think much of this thread would exist in the first place. Why does being 'provocative' make your point stronger?

excuse me. I shall work on this in the future
Allow me to recommend the book once again.

Because you dropped your cards and claimed yourself winner of the argument the easy way...

As opposed to what you've been doing this entire thread?

ddrake, Tuesday, 18 November 2003 01:24 (twenty years ago) link

also ddrake, you really should check out Melvin Q. Astley's Redundancy & The Spoken Word : Ass Bunnies. Quite appopriate for understand the "values" and "aesthetics" of our whole protocol.

donut bitch (donut), Tuesday, 18 November 2003 01:25 (twenty years ago) link

ddrake - turn on the radio. read a book. when come back bring pie.

cinniblount (James Blount), Tuesday, 18 November 2003 01:26 (twenty years ago) link

This is easier than a frisky kitten and a laser pen!

donut bitch (donut), Tuesday, 18 November 2003 01:27 (twenty years ago) link

Meringue pie, please.

This is easier than a frisky kitten and a laser pen!

You evil genius, sir.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 18 November 2003 01:27 (twenty years ago) link

"What's up, fuckers" is considered a polite introduction where exactly?!?!? We aren't your "friends", dd, don't you think it might be a bit forward to assume that kind of fraternity with anyone on this thread.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 18 November 2003 01:27 (twenty years ago) link

What's everyone's favourite Thompson Twins song?

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Tuesday, 18 November 2003 01:27 (twenty years ago) link

Mine is "Doctor Doctor"

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Tuesday, 18 November 2003 01:28 (twenty years ago) link

"Mothefuckers" was not intended to suggest animosity, and was rather a general, "what's up, fuckers."

Yeah, that's how we all start our threads around here.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 18 November 2003 01:28 (twenty years ago) link

vahid (vahid), Tuesday, 18 November 2003 01:28 (twenty years ago) link

I can't think of any other occasional on ilx where someone has had their ass as out and out schooled as ddrake on this thread. and I still think any further 'engagement' with him from any ilxors is tantamount to running up the score.

cinniblount (James Blount), Tuesday, 18 November 2003 01:28 (twenty years ago) link

What's everyone's favourite Thompson Twins song?

"Hold Me Now," easy. Lurvly ballad.

I still think any further 'engagement' with him from any ilxors is tantamount to running up the score.

You're probably right there.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 18 November 2003 01:29 (twenty years ago) link

Blount OTM.

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Tuesday, 18 November 2003 01:30 (twenty years ago) link

DOCTOR DOCTOR MA MUFUCKIN ASSMAN

NED RAGGITZ NUM1 ETHUG (donut), Tuesday, 18 November 2003 01:31 (twenty years ago) link

Redundancy & The Spoken Word : Ass Bunnies

And so it is demonstrated yet again that if you leave a thread-gone-wrong to its own devices, it will eventually justify itself in a great flash of glory and splendor.

J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Tuesday, 18 November 2003 01:31 (twenty years ago) link

Yea verily, forsooth.

(I have been dying of laughter from these past ten minutes or so and DB just took the cake.)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 18 November 2003 01:32 (twenty years ago) link

we do need a 'justify my ethug' 7" stat

cinniblount (James Blount), Tuesday, 18 November 2003 01:32 (twenty years ago) link

I really like it because [reasons x, y, z].

i missed this bit

gaz (gaz), Tuesday, 18 November 2003 01:32 (twenty years ago) link

That's the point, gaz, it wasn't there at all!

we do need a 'justify my ethug' 7" stat

OMNIPOTENT BABY AHOY.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 18 November 2003 01:33 (twenty years ago) link

Even MORE Amazing... zero trife action, and minimal fiddo/strongo/jesso action to keep the momentum strong at that!

donut bitch (donut), Tuesday, 18 November 2003 01:36 (twenty years ago) link

where is trife btw?

gaz (gaz), Tuesday, 18 November 2003 01:38 (twenty years ago) link

undercover

donut bitch (donut), Tuesday, 18 November 2003 01:39 (twenty years ago) link

Retired, sorta. But check the Fiddo's crystal ball thread for his amazing review as Mullah Omar for the new Jay-Z album. The difference between him and A Certain Poster On This Thread when it comes to talking about hip-hop is measured in parsecs.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 18 November 2003 01:40 (twenty years ago) link

trife is mullah? ha!

gaz (gaz), Tuesday, 18 November 2003 01:41 (twenty years ago) link

if parsecs equal millimeters

jack cole (jackcole), Tuesday, 18 November 2003 01:42 (twenty years ago) link


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