DEM not gonna CON dis NATION: Rolling UK politics in the short-lived post-Murdoch era

jesus. this is beyond a joke.

David Came-wrong

pretty weak name in the shadow of "bliar"

omg it's just so...petty

hahahaha he's just saying things to make him seem more traditional

and also progressive. he's having his cake and fucking it too

Surely if you're heading down the immature nicknames road for that ham-faced dickhead, it'd be Camoron?

progressive reaction

Camoran?

• Respond to the Ukip threat by pledging to scrap the Human Rights Act, which will be replaced by a new British bill of rights that would transform Britain’s relationship with the European court of human rights. The prime minister also said that he would put restrictions on the freedom of movement within the EU at the heart of his renegotiation plans before his planned referendum in 2017.

Oh, yay!

Neither of those things are likely to be remotely achievable though.

Nicky Morgan on Radio 4 this evening: "people in the UK are sick of human rights"

Can see why they made her minister for women and equality.

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POLL

Create jobs for everyone TICK
Safeguard the NHS TICK

'English votes for own laws' propaganda from non-dom aussie newspaper mogul

People on £10,000 gain £0.00 from this tax cut (but have their benefits cut/frozen)
People on £50,000 gain £1600.00 from this tax cut (and continue to receive child benefit)

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FFS

http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/77953000/jpg/_77953670_mail2.jpg

Always fun to see "British values" contrasted with the European Convention on Human Rights, the sneaky foreign document primarily drafted by Sir David Patrick Maxwell Fyfe, 1st Earl of Kilmuir. The Human Rights bill actually means more cases being decided in the UK by British judges rather than in the ECHR.

by "fun" i assume you mean "so bitterly ironic it leaves me barren of hope and wondering what in hell to do to somehow combat this tidal wave of greed, disinformation, swindlage and fuckery"

Tory reasoning these days seems to be that they're so far ahead of Labour on the economy, in terms of credibility with the electorate (and cocky about it too), that they can promise any old uncosted shite and get away with it. I'd like to believe they're heading for a fall but...

Cameron has put most of his key cards on the table so if he's not substantially ahead of Labour in the polls and hasn't put a huge dent in the UKIP numbers this week, it's tough to see what else he can do ahead of an election to get extra momentum.

idk, maybe he can come out against decimalisation and reintroduce the penny farthing.

boggles the mind that anyone would be "impressed" that this regressive asshole is all for imperial measures. still can't believe that wasn't a daily mash story or whatever.

My understanding was that these uncosted promises (on tax anyway) are to he delivered by 2020, as long as the deficit is eliminated first. So potentially will never happen, but have the current immediate benefit of letting people think they'll get these things and gives the party a boost pre-election. Media seem to be happy to report at face value.

Same with the commitment to 'putting restrictions on freedom of movement at the heart of any EU renegotiation' (which the EU will never go for) and the idea that the ECHR will not restrict the legality of UK government actions (which, unless they are going to join Belarus as the only European country not to be a signatory, will never happen). You'd hope that these policies will be interrogated a little more by the press ahead of the election.

why is the press being so complacent about this? is it simply because they're mostly right-leaning/straight-up-Nazi?

of course it would be cool if labour could interrogate this stuff too, rather than trying to figure out how to mimic it unconvincingly or junk their own principles in response.

wait

the imperial measures thing is....real?

he's calling for a return to jam sandwiches sliced lengthways too.

Imperial measures will be forgotten by tomorrow lunchtime.

The next test for the tax/ECHR desperation is to see any effect on the by-election next week.

They'll lose the Carswell one and win the Reckless one, and apparently they'll be happy with that.

And they should be - winning the Carswell seat is based upon 'him' not on UKIP.

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2014/oct/03/conservatives-ignore-european-court-human-rights-rulings

Ah, it's the Belarus route after all. Reasonably good chance that this would call the UK's position in the EU into question.

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HUMAN RIGHTS MADNESS!

chris grayling is a fuckboy for the ages

CLEAVAGE

Reading through the comments on various newspapers about the ECHR issue is interesting

A lot of people do not particularly care whether they're talking about the Council of Europe, the ECHR, or the EU. It's Europe so it's Bad. They're Meddling. Britain Britain Britain. Lawyers are bad too.

Thing is - as a British citizen your liberties are safer if the ECHR can have some influence on legal process in Britain and why don't people understand this why does this spectral image of BAD EUROPE coming and telling you what to do just overpower people's reasoning

Why don't people understand that Britain is in almost every case, whichever particular euro institution we're talking about, part of this EUROPE thing and have as much say in it as everyone else who's part of it

And how is it more democratic to take us out of the ECHR if we never get to vote on it and they just go ahead and do it

http://www.lrb.co.uk/v36/n19/james-meek/in-farageland rly good article

YouGov’s Peter Kellner has told Newsnight that he expects Douglas Carswell to win in Clacton with a majority of around 10,000.

The UK Independence Party has gained its first elected MP, with Douglas Carswell taking the seat of Clacton by 12,404 votes.

Extent of the swing from Lab to UKIP in the Heywood & Middleton vote is probably more worrying tbh

No swing from Lab to UKIP, Labour actually increased their percentage of the vote - but a collapse in Tory and Lib Dem support.

oh right i misread it then. labour v close to losing a seat to ukip though

It is (or should be) very worrying for Labour - despite getting their vote out they nearly lost a safe seat. I'd like to see the potential number of seats UKIP could win at the 2015 general election in northern constituencies if they take the same proportion of Tory and Lib Dem voters as in Heywood & Middleton.

http://www.lrb.co.uk/blog/2014/10/07/dave-boyle/in-heywood/

Erstwhile Ilxor Dave B is worth reading on Heywood.

Loving how the media is spinning this as a disaster for Labour and a minor anomaly for the Tories.

I suppose it's because Carswell was almost a foregone conclusion. Labour potentially losing seats to Ukip is more newsworthy.