Butthole Surfers- Classic or dud?

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Am I alone in thinking "Cowboy Bob" is a straigh-up rip of the Sisters of Mercy "Floorshow"?

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Monday, 29 September 2014 14:28 (nine years ago) link

There's a similarity, but I think it would be pushing it to say it's a rip. I'd be surprised if in 1983 when they wrote it the Butthole Surfers had heard a then unreleased demo from a UK band that had basically zero presence in the States.

EZ Snappin, Monday, 29 September 2014 15:02 (nine years ago) link

one year passes...

Book about them, Let's Go To Hell, came out a few months ago. It's not cheap on Amazon, looks to be well-done. Anyone have it? One of the few bands where I do kind of want to know what the hell was going on. Watched their '84 performance along with early Beastie Boys the other day...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bezWjn1rT1E

dlp9001, Sunday, 22 November 2015 01:00 (eight years ago) link

I often wonder what Gibby has been doing for the past decade. Aside from the live tour, painting and the occasional guest appearance. Wikipedia says he done radio, maybe he does that now?

I'm not sure I've ever heard of Leary's newer band Carny.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Monday, 23 November 2015 14:09 (eight years ago) link

ten months pass...

did any of the late 90s/early 00s noise scene acknowledge the Butties as antecedents? Been listening to them all day and the similarity in goals/aesthetics/styles seems kinda obvious

Οὖτις, Friday, 23 September 2016 20:39 (seven years ago) link

six months pass...

http://thequietus.com/articles/22036-butthole-surfers-locust-abortion-technician-paul-leary-interview

As much as I loved Indepedant Worm Saloon, it really does seem right that they'd go back to the Locust Abortion Technician way of doing things, if they do another album.

Re: Leary saying this is an ideal time to do another album because of Trump. "Lady Sniff" springs to mind.

I don't think I've heard any similar music in years, I miss this kind of stuff.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Sunday, 16 April 2017 13:32 (seven years ago) link

eight months pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kFVUvKm7ZzY

I couldn't tell if the sound was coming out of my speakers or out of the toilet.

As Ramtha said in a toast: TO THAT WHICH IS CALLED LIFE!

A tooooooooooooooooooooast.

_Rudipherous_, Tuesday, 9 January 2018 04:45 (six years ago) link

I can't even listen to this!

_Rudipherous_, Tuesday, 9 January 2018 04:46 (six years ago) link

Did you ever not drink for like six or seven or eight years and then have some vodkae to brimg a situation to ahead finally and finally? Yes? We; that's what we have here/

_Rudipherous_, Tuesday, 9 January 2018 04:47 (six years ago) link

It is indeed a shit or get off the pot moment. Jesus this fucking Lenovo keyboard all the keys are in the wrong place.

I had a Dell that last like 15 fucking years and I didn't buy another Dell!

Self-inflicted wound.

_Rudipherous_, Tuesday, 9 January 2018 04:49 (six years ago) link

I am distraight about a classical Chinese medicine practitioner with the fakesteyebrows in history. Maybe I can get over it, mayve not. It's not ven being in love. No, betrayal. Oh, I work with emotions, all about emotions. I didn't ven ask for fucking emotions. Just an allergy treatment. But okay, you want emotions,here tyou go. Oh, wait, no that's too much emotions. I should have known betterfrom her photo. But she looks so much better without all them aekup really.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sVemUWvl_z4

_Rudipherous_, Tuesday, 9 January 2018 04:51 (six years ago) link

Native born New Mexican Taoist shaman with most likely Arab or Sephardic roots.

OMG shut this down no don't let him go on.

_Rudipherous_, Tuesday, 9 January 2018 04:52 (six years ago) link

But it's not100% abiouyt that.Just 994 [eret

hey hey hey

because you see
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I can't predict

anything

and all these Ice Queeen Aquariuzes with genuine Spanish roots, you knwo? Crypto-Jew or not.

Idon't know.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sVemUWvl_z4

_Rudipherous_, Tuesday, 9 January 2018 04:54 (six years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sVemUWvl_z4

_Rudipherous_, Tuesday, 9 January 2018 04:55 (six years ago) link

OK. Exactly. I said ok I will drink the vodak I have said aside. I think it's going to be ok after all. Maybe more alcohol and drugs needed, like EVBERY FUCK ONE ELSE except Mormons and who knowx what they are really doing. Yes, everyone. The Palestinian who ran Jerusalem Foods in Philadelphia who kept arak or somehing else un drinkable under the coumner. Undrinkable to me. Staight. I do like arak. And M. Kominiarek was correc that i is the drink of philsopjhers. Doesn't really get you fucked up. Leaves you lucid. But today I am drinking dovbake.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kFVUvKm7ZzY

Lathy Acker talks about some sort of zen experience where she was just walking into cars and notdtying, and she wsn't enjoying it so her zen aster stod her to gbetdrin,/

_Rudipherous_, Tuesday, 9 January 2018 04:59 (six years ago) link

I think I need to change my voicemail message.

_Rudipherous_, Tuesday, 9 January 2018 04:59 (six years ago) link

Me and Michael Rectenwald: Allen Ginsberg connection. Unknown.

_Rudipherous_, Tuesday, 9 January 2018 05:00 (six years ago) link

Didn't hear it from me.

_Rudipherous_, Tuesday, 9 January 2018 05:00 (six years ago) link

Right, husband of Haco?

_Rudipherous_, Tuesday, 9 January 2018 05:01 (six years ago) link

Hello C********** S******* and friends!

_Rudipherous_, Tuesday, 9 January 2018 05:02 (six years ago) link

So anyway, blatant Buttholesurfersisms on that Melkbelly album I like, but I like it, and really they have largely been lost to history, which is probably a good thing. Something needs to be lost.

_Rudipherous_, Tuesday, 9 January 2018 05:03 (six years ago) link

Really, I shouldn't have put my faith is someone speaking stilted Newagesque jargon, like my Gemini sister with the BIG ILLITERATE HANDWRITING (a la Orwell) had she not gone Calvinist. Fell in love: "converted" to Calvinism. WHO WILL BRING A CHARGE AGAINST GOD'S ELECT?! Holding her little red Bible screeching like some woman from China's Cultural Revolution.

_Rudipherous_, Tuesday, 9 January 2018 05:05 (six years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QggUzp5pPhE

_Rudipherous_, Tuesday, 9 January 2018 05:07 (six years ago) link

Now hopefully the authorities will chill out. Like Albuquerque cops don't have something better to do than do welfare checks on me.

_Rudipherous_, Tuesday, 9 January 2018 05:10 (six years ago) link

I didn't know that was by Melissa Manchester.

_Rudipherous_, Tuesday, 9 January 2018 05:11 (six years ago) link

Headphones.

_Rudipherous_, Tuesday, 9 January 2018 05:17 (six years ago) link

One day she's tearing into my shoulders to release toxins from my lymph nodes, the next: YOU ARE NO LONGER MY PATIENT. Didn't do anything but talk about self-destructive emotions. Never trust a New Mexican born Taoist healer with fake eye lashes that make her look worse than her natural face.

_Rudipherous_, Tuesday, 9 January 2018 05:24 (six years ago) link

(Especially if she's probably ANOTHER Aquarius. I used to avoid those people what is wrong with me?)

_Rudipherous_, Tuesday, 9 January 2018 05:24 (six years ago) link

wrote:

Most current email (post police visit)

*

Fucking bullshit. Oh, my tradition works with emotions. Emotional healing 24/7. She was going to fucking bleed me for Christ's sake, to deal with past emotionally problematic experiences. We talked about that. Now, suddenly, uh, no, you need to look elsewhere. My emotions are too extreme for someone who practices BLEEDING to deal with troubling emotional experiences from the past.

_Rudipherous_, Tuesday, 9 January 2018 05:30 (six years ago) link

(And why did she respond to a copy with her note about the welfare check on it?!)

_Rudipherous_, Tuesday, 9 January 2018 05:31 (six years ago) link

Probably none of this would have happened had I not used Sudafed this weekend. Makes me crazier, way crazier. MUST SEND MY BOSS'S BOSS EMAILS ABOUT FEELING SUICIDAL! That was before though. I learned to stop that.

_Rudipherous_, Tuesday, 9 January 2018 05:33 (six years ago) link

Anyway, the Butthole Surfers are pretty great but all the grotesqueness and nihilism are a turnoff, except for right now like the old days.

_Rudipherous_, Tuesday, 9 January 2018 05:34 (six years ago) link

Seriously pretty unfuckwithable musically:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pPKP7LOBo68

_Rudipherous_, Tuesday, 9 January 2018 05:36 (six years ago) link

Also, one would not necessarily expect Gibby to enunciate so clearly, yet he does.

_Rudipherous_, Tuesday, 9 January 2018 05:36 (six years ago) link

I wouldn't say they were un-influential, it just got folded into other things, somewhat invisibly.

_Rudipherous_, Tuesday, 9 January 2018 05:37 (six years ago) link

Stoli, actually.

_Rudipherous_, Tuesday, 9 January 2018 05:38 (six years ago) link

I don't think I give a fuck about what I'm saying here. Believe me, it's the least of my worries.

Kind of sucks, she actually had gotten some good results, but I guess I will just move on to the people she referred me to though not convinced she didn't pull them all out at random. Still, they are somewhat obscure. Not Google first hits.

_Rudipherous_, Tuesday, 9 January 2018 05:40 (six years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Qy0vs80T5M

Me: Oh, let's dance.
White salsera friend: you like this?

_Rudipherous_, Tuesday, 9 January 2018 05:43 (six years ago) link

Bilea Valentin
Bilea Valentin
1 month ago
savage 90s

_Rudipherous_, Tuesday, 9 January 2018 05:44 (six years ago) link

Have some extreme narrative clashing going on in my head.

_Rudipherous_, Tuesday, 9 January 2018 05:52 (six years ago) link

Please vote for Melkbelly. Not breaking new ground but really well done.

_Rudipherous_, Tuesday, 9 January 2018 05:56 (six years ago) link

I sent this to a work-provided psychotherapist I wasn't happen with:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vhh-XF01Ats

_Rudipherous_, Tuesday, 9 January 2018 05:58 (six years ago) link

I think Body Music is seriously underrated. Really, come on people.

_Rudipherous_, Tuesday, 9 January 2018 05:59 (six years ago) link

Granted, I didn't like it until a year or two later. But 2011 was the year I started getting electronic dance music somewhat (thanks largely to Tim F's praise for Tropical 2).

_Rudipherous_, Tuesday, 9 January 2018 06:00 (six years ago) link

She was very insistent that I knew who Billy Crystal was but I didn't know who the fuck Billy Crystal was. OK? I was forced to go to bed early, and then when I could stay up late I didn't watch SNL.

_Rudipherous_, Tuesday, 9 January 2018 06:01 (six years ago) link

So much of my getting in trouble these past couple years has just been about DEVIANT COMMUNICATION.

Well, okay, hopefully the worse that can happen is that I will have to agree to go to a psychotherapist. Fuck those people. Total fucking power relationship and they don't want to deal with someone who dares to question the Guru, I mean, shrink. Fuck those people. 99% of them suck ass many days of the week. The funny thing is, the studies basically prove that. But it's basically an impossible job.

And yet everyone is so confident: GET PROFESSIONAL HELP! Oh, okay. It's so easy.

(She was helping me with the fucking tui na. Why does that have to end? Fine, I would be more than willing to go elsewhere for emotional support, but she's the one who talked emotions.

Oh, men don't want to express their emotions during bleeding. She actually talked about that. The same. . . . one who now tells me I am NO LONGER MY PATIENT after I expressed overly intense emotions.

I'm the man who expresses my emotions and then I get a fucking welfare visit. Like, I am the most unmacho man around so don't tell me about how I might be uncomfortable expressing my emotions.)

Well fuck that.

_Rudipherous_, Tuesday, 9 January 2018 06:08 (six years ago) link

I don't fucking care. This is just ILX. Seriously. Whatever. Enemies? Great! Enjoy the show!

At least I am not an anus unraveller. My professor for Systems of Psychotherapy used to like to talk about anus-unravellers. The students described him as irrational-non-emotive. Honors/graduate seminar. It was a fun class because there was this big muscular behaviorist guy who used to go at it at with this somewhat chubby Jungian girl who wore an army jacket. She was very Jungian. He was very behaviorist.

The instructor was some sort of Heideggerian existentialist who had a soft spot for Albert Ellis.

Total insanity.

_Rudipherous_, Tuesday, 9 January 2018 06:12 (six years ago) link

I. Do. Not. Care.

_Rudipherous_, Tuesday, 9 January 2018 06:13 (six years ago) link

And Aluna can go to the White House and worship Obama, but I still love her. Sorry, but this transcends dopey politics.

_Rudipherous_, Tuesday, 9 January 2018 06:14 (six years ago) link

She made a song for ME. That's enough.

_Rudipherous_, Tuesday, 9 January 2018 06:14 (six years ago) link


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