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After Hors d'oeuvres

EZ Snappin, Saturday, 27 September 2014 14:44 (nine years ago) link

^A+

Dear Catastrophe Theory Waitress (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 27 September 2014 14:57 (nine years ago) link

ham fatale

StanM, Saturday, 27 September 2014 16:07 (nine years ago) link

The Meringue Mystery

You and Dad's Army? (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 27 September 2014 16:10 (nine years ago) link

pale blue ice cream

StanM, Saturday, 27 September 2014 16:10 (nine years ago) link

White Wine/White Meat

( X '____' )/ (zappi), Saturday, 27 September 2014 16:12 (nine years ago) link

Stephanie's eggs

StanM, Saturday, 27 September 2014 16:29 (nine years ago) link

European Flan

definite classic, predicting a solid 8/10 from the p-fork boys (Le Bateau Ivre), Saturday, 27 September 2014 16:41 (nine years ago) link

This is too long and too late but:

Then she sank down in her chair, grasped the fork by both hands, took a deep breath and plunged the long tines through the middle of the radicchio , through the middle of the crouton, through the endive through the bell pepper and right through the center of the cherry tomato, which split slightly and caused little rhythmic arcs of red to pulsate gently in the morning sun.

Dear Catastrophe Theory Waitress (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 27 September 2014 16:48 (nine years ago) link

The Marble Cake Index.

Dear Catastrophe Theory Waitress (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 27 September 2014 16:51 (nine years ago) link

I'm sure this has been posted but:

Oh Sweet Muffin

The Count has shot himself (Tom D.), Saturday, 27 September 2014 17:09 (nine years ago) link

Also "Cheeses" (... help me find my proper place)

The Count has shot himself (Tom D.), Saturday, 27 September 2014 17:10 (nine years ago) link

Juicing Down the Door

dan selzer, Saturday, 27 September 2014 17:31 (nine years ago) link

for dessert
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41z6w-f6QeL.jpg

tylerw, Saturday, 27 September 2014 18:49 (nine years ago) link

dessert? sure!

( X '____' )/ (zappi), Saturday, 27 September 2014 18:52 (nine years ago) link

Quine crêpes

StanM, Saturday, 27 September 2014 19:59 (nine years ago) link

"You've got to Shake it and Bake it/and say I helped/unless you want to lose that beat"

You and Dad's Army? (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 27 September 2014 22:05 (nine years ago) link

looks like the official word?
THE VELVET UNDERGROUND -- 45TH ANNIVERSARY SUPER DELUXE EDITION,

A SIX-CD SET, COMMEMORATES BAND’S 1969 SELF-TITLED THIRD ALBUM

64-track six-CD package on Polydor/UMe includes legendary 1969 album, featuring several different mixes, live recordings from The Matrix in San Francisco, case-bound book and liner notes by David Fricke

Los Angeles, CA – September 24, 2014 – The Velvet Underground’s classic self-titled third album, released in March 1969, by MGM, was a departure from the band’s first two albums in more ways than one. Gone was co-founding member John Cale, and in his place was a 21-year-old with Long Island roots named Doug Yule, who stepped right in. The record was also a stylistic leap, as Lou Reed describes it in Rolling Stone editor David Fricke’s liner notes, “I thought we had to demonstrate the other side of us. Fricke calls it “a stunning turnaround… 10 tracks of mostly warm, explicit sympathy and optimism, expressed with melodic clarity, set in gleaming double-guitar jangle and near-whispered balladry. Or as the late rock critic Lester Bangs put it, “How do you define a group like this, who moved from ‘Heroin’ to ‘Jesus’ in two short years?”

How indeed do you describe an album which includes such classics as “Candy Says,” Reed’s ode to Warhol superstar Candy Darling; the aching love song “Pale Blue Eyes,” allegedly inspired by a girlfriend at Syracuse University who got away, with lead vocals by Yule; the inspiring “Beginning to See The Light”; the spoken-word narrative and musique concrete of “The Murder Mystery,” and the beautiful Maureen Tucker-sung “After Hours”?

Celebrating its enduring longevity, Polydor/Universal Music Enterprises (UMe) will release The Velvet Underground – 45th Anniversary Super Deluxe Edition, on November 24, 2014. This 64-track, six-CD package is housed in a case-bound book and features several different mixes including the remastered stereo mix by MGM house engineer Luis Pastor “Val” Valentin, a set of 1969 recordings, many of which were previously unreleased, from the Record Plant in New York City that were supposed to be the band’s fourth album, several of which ended up on Loaded and Reed’s first two solo releases, and unreleased live recordings from The Matrix in 1969.

The remastered Valentin stereo mix of The Velvet Underground will also be made available as a single-disc CD, on vinyl, and as part of the two-CD Deluxe Edition version with a 12-track audio bonus disc featuring the best of Live At The Matrix, taped on November 26 & 27, 1969. Digital versions of both the single disc “Valentin mix” and the six-CD, Super Deluxe Edition will also be available through other digital partners including MFiT and HD Audio formats.

The Velvet Underground was the first album produced and arranged by the band themselves. Disc One of this collection contains the album stereo mix by MGM house engineer Luis Pastor “Val” Valentin, a veteran of sessions for Ella Fitzgerald and Stan Getz, recorded at T.T.G. Studios in Hollywood, while the band was staying at the Chateau Marmont. The second disc features what Sterling Morrison dubbed “The Closet Mix,” which Reed described as a way to “get directly to somebody, unfiltered… So, if you listen to the record, it’s like sitting across from you.” This was the original version on the 1969 pressings of the album, later replaced by yet another Val Valentin stereo mix. The third disc features “the promotional mono mix” of the album, including a mono version of the first single, “What Goes On” b/w “Jesus.”

The fourth disc in the set offers a version of the never-to-be-released fourth album, recorded in October 1969 at the Record Plant in New York City, and intended to get the band out of its contract with MGM. The sessions include 10 previously unheard mixes - four original 1969 vintage mixes and six new mixes, including 2014 mixes of “Lisa Says” and “I Can’t Stand It,” and the original 1969 mix of “Ocean,” which eventually were re-recorded for Lou Reed’s 1972 self-titled solo debut. Also included are the original 1969 mixes of “Andy’s Chest,” which appeared in a different version on Transformer, and “Rock & Roll,” redone for Loaded.

The last two discs feature performances by the Velvets from their stay at San Francisco’s The Matrix, owned by Jefferson Airplane’s Marty Balin, on November 26 and 27, 1969. These performances are, for the first time, compiled and mixed from the legendary, original 1969 multi-track recordings made by club manager Peter Abram and now owned by the Velvet Underground. Tracks include a nearly 37-minute-long “Sister Ray” and a version of “There She Goes Again,” interpolating the opening guitar quote from Marvin Gaye’s 1962 hit, “Hitch Hike.”

Newest member Doug Yule describes the year best to Fricke in his liner notes, pointing to the band’s “cohesiveness and creativity and just great music. We were feeling good. All we had to do was play. And it showed. That comes out in a band. You get tight, and you get creative.”

The Velvet Underground – 45th Super Deluxe Edition offers the ultimate proof.

TRACK LISTING:

DISC ONE: THE VELVET UNDERGROUND

(“The Val Valentin Mix”)

1. CANDY SAYS

2. WHAT GOES ON

3. SOME KINDA LOVE

4. PALE BLUE EYES

5. JESUS

6. BEGINNING TO SEE THE LIGHT

7. I’M SET FREE

8. THAT’S THE STORY OF MY LIFE

9. THE MURDER MYSTERY

10. AFTER HOURS

DISC TWO: THE VELVET UNDERGROUND

(“The Closet Mix”)

1. CANDY SAYS

2. WHAT GOES ON

3. SOME KINDA LOVE

4. PALE BLUE EYES

5. JESUS

6. BEGINNING TO SEE THE LIGHT

7. I’M SET FREE

8. THAT’S THE STORY OF MY LIFE

9. THE MURDER MYSTERY

10. AFTER HOURS

11. BEGINNING TO SEE THE LIGHT (alternate “Closet Mix”)

DISC THREE: THE VELVET UNDERGROUND

(“Promotional Mono Mix”)

1. CANDY SAYS

2. WHAT GOES ON

3. SOME KINDA LOVE

4. PALE BLUE EYES

5. JESUS

6. BEGINNING TO SEE THE LIGHT

7. I’M SET FREE

8. THAT’S THE STORY OF MY LIFE

9. THE MURDER MYSTERY

10. AFTER HOURS

Mono Single released April 1969

11. WHAT GOES ON

12. JESUS

DISC FOUR: 1969 SESSIONS

1. FOGGY NOTION (original 1969 mix) +

2. ONE OF THESE DAYS (new 2014 mix) +

3. LISA SAYS (new 2014 mix) +

4. I'M STICKING WITH YOU (original 1969 mix) +

5. ANDY'S CHEST (original 1969 mix) +

6. CONEY ISLAND STEEPLECHASE (new 2014 mix)+

7. OCEAN (original 1969 mix)

8. I CAN'T STAND IT (new 2014 mix) +

9. SHE'S MY BEST FRIEND (original 1969 mix) +

10. WE’RE GONNA HAVE A REAL GOOD TIME TOGETHER (new 2014 mix) +

11. I'M GONNA MOVE RIGHT IN (original 1969 mix)

12. FERRYBOAT BILL (original 1969 mix)

13. ROCK & ROLL (original 1969 mix)

14. RIDE INTO THE SUN (new 2014 mix) +

+ previously unreleased mixes

DISC FIVE: LIVE AT THE MATRIX

November 26 & 27, 1969 (Part 1)

1. I’M WAITING FOR THE MAN *

2. WHAT GOES ON *

3. SOME KINDA LOVE **

4. OVER YOU *

5. WE’RE GONNA HAVE A REAL GOOD TIME TOGETHER *

6. BEGINNING TO SEE THE LIGHT **

7. LISA SAYS **

8. ROCK & ROLL **

9. PALE BLUE EYES *

10. I CAN’T STAND IT ANYMORE *

11. VENUS IN FURS *

12. THERE SHE GOES AGAIN *

DISC SIX: LIVE AT THE MATRIX

November 26 & 27, 1969 (Part 2)

1. SISTER RAY ***

2. HEROIN *

3. WHITE LIGHT/WHITE HEAT **

4. I’M SET FREE *

5. AFTER HOURS *

6. SWEET JANE **

All mixes previously unreleased.

* previously unreleased performance

** different source mix of this performance appears on 1969: The Velvet Underground Live

*** different source mix of this performance appears on The Quine Tapes Box Set

tylerw, Tuesday, 30 September 2014 20:07 (nine years ago) link

Tracks include a nearly 37-minute-long “Sister Ray”

lol

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 30 September 2014 20:08 (nine years ago) link

a version of “There She Goes Again,” interpolating the opening guitar quote from Marvin Gaye’s 1962 hit, “Hitch Hike.”
just like every version of this song! it's weird that that little bit of trivia is repeated everywhere.

tylerw, Tuesday, 30 September 2014 20:10 (nine years ago) link

yeah I lol'd at that too

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 30 September 2014 20:11 (nine years ago) link

really only care about the Matrix shows, altho I don't fully understand what's different/new from what's on the Live 1969 discs.

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 30 September 2014 20:11 (nine years ago) link

Is this just poorly worded, because they make it sound like there's two Valentin mixes:

Disc One of this collection contains the album stereo mix by MGM house engineer Luis Pastor “Val” Valentin, a veteran of sessions for Ella Fitzgerald and Stan Getz, recorded at T.T.G. Studios in Hollywood, while the band was staying at the Chateau Marmont. The second disc features what Sterling Morrison dubbed “The Closet Mix,” which Reed described as a way to “get directly to somebody, unfiltered… So, if you listen to the record, it’s like sitting across from you.” This was the original version on the 1969 pressings of the album, later replaced by yet another Val Valentin stereo mix.

You and Dad's Army? (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 30 September 2014 20:13 (nine years ago) link

new 2014 mix

uh oh

sleeve, Tuesday, 30 September 2014 20:14 (nine years ago) link

^^Kanye verses added, no doubt!

You and Dad's Army? (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 30 September 2014 20:15 (nine years ago) link

think the 2014 mixes are replacing 1985 mixes

tylerw, Tuesday, 30 September 2014 20:22 (nine years ago) link

Yeah, they're de-'80sd or something.

You and Dad's Army? (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 30 September 2014 20:25 (nine years ago) link

he aching love song “Pale Blue Eyes,” allegedly inspired by a girlfriend at Syracuse University who got away, with lead vocals by Yule;

ummmm

Mark G, Tuesday, 30 September 2014 21:32 (nine years ago) link

oh OK that might be a good thing xxp

sleeve, Tuesday, 30 September 2014 21:45 (nine years ago) link

xp durrrrr

tylerw, Tuesday, 30 September 2014 21:58 (nine years ago) link

see also Edward IIIs eloquent defense of the Etc mix (i.e the original) of "I'm Sticking With You" vs. the VU remix, he wrote abt it in the artist poll

sleeve, Tuesday, 30 September 2014 22:05 (nine years ago) link

_he aching love song “Pale Blue Eyes,” allegedly inspired by a girlfriend at Syracuse University who got away, with lead vocals by Yule;_

ummmm


Was it Shelly, the same one of "I Can't Stand It"?

The "5" Astronomer Royales (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 30 September 2014 22:51 (nine years ago) link

Yeah, Doug Yule's ex-gf Shelly.

You and Dad's Army? (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 30 September 2014 22:52 (nine years ago) link

the Etc mix (i.e the original) of "I'm Sticking With You" vs. the VU remix

? where would one hear this

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 30 September 2014 22:53 (nine years ago) link

xp ha yeah, i think it's supposed to be shelly, but doug definitely does not sing that one.

tylerw, Tuesday, 30 September 2014 22:55 (nine years ago) link

Inspired by sterling morrisons electroshock therapy

a drug by the name of WORLD WITHOUT END (Jon Lewis), Tuesday, 30 September 2014 23:01 (nine years ago) link

Drummer Moe Tucker's testosterone-fueled beats

tylerw, Tuesday, 30 September 2014 23:05 (nine years ago) link

John Cale's well-documented struggle with pica informed much of the initial recordings

cross over the mushroom circle (La Lechera), Tuesday, 30 September 2014 23:07 (nine years ago) link

man my jokes always suck and yet i keep making them
never give up!

cross over the mushroom circle (La Lechera), Tuesday, 30 September 2014 23:09 (nine years ago) link

I irl lol'd at pica

a drug by the name of WORLD WITHOUT END (Jon Lewis), Tuesday, 30 September 2014 23:16 (nine years ago) link

the Etc mix (i.e the original) of "I'm Sticking With You" vs. the VU remix

? where would one hear this

― Οὖτις, Tuesday, September 30, 2014 3:53 PM

http://www.discogs.com/Velvet-Underground-Etc/master/660580

used to be available via the "nuns on the seawall" blog

sleeve, Tuesday, 30 September 2014 23:54 (nine years ago) link

B-b-but does Doug sing the "Hitchhike" intro?

The "5" Astronomer Royales (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 1 October 2014 02:59 (nine years ago) link

BUT YOU GUYS THE MATRIX RECORDINGS WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU NIGGLING ABOUT THE PROMO BUMF FOR

hardcore dilettante, Wednesday, 1 October 2014 03:04 (nine years ago) link

how come the only source I can google on this is a Norwegian press-release-regurgitation site? Nobody else picked it up after a week?!

(and how on ye olde green earth did you ever find it, Tyler?)

hardcore dilettante, Wednesday, 1 October 2014 03:26 (nine years ago) link

Starting to think some college kid put that "Hitchhike" thing at the top of a syndicated Voice Media Group listicle called "Top 5 Things To Know About The Velvet Underground Before You Die."

Not surprised at tyler being hip to anything VU related very early in the game. Like if some Freeport demolition team turned up Lou's lost bar mitzvah photos, I'd assume tyler and his blog would have the scoop.

The "5" Astronomer Royales (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 1 October 2014 04:29 (nine years ago) link

(that "Lead vocal by Doug Yule" thing looks like the sentence was about "Candy Says" but the "Pale Blue Eyes" bit got dropped in, badly)

Mark G, Wednesday, 1 October 2014 06:48 (nine years ago) link

if some Freeport demolition team turned up Lou's lost bar mitzvah photos

That's weird, I was thinking about Lou's bar mitzvah yesterday (which is weird in itself).

The Count has shot himself (Tom D.), Wednesday, 1 October 2014 09:22 (nine years ago) link

ha, i just saw it over on those wacky steve hoffman forums.
i dunno, the more i think about it, the more i'm kind of annoyed that the matrix tapes are being bundled up with this deluxe edition -- they should just be doing a "complete" release of all of those recordings. (there are a few interesting things missing in the tracklisting)

tylerw, Wednesday, 1 October 2014 14:08 (nine years ago) link

also sort of bummed there isn't like "take 1" of what goes on or other things like that.

tylerw, Wednesday, 1 October 2014 14:10 (nine years ago) link


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